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Title: Lewis River Unit
Post by: kglacken on May 27, 2013, 09:35:48 PM
I am in the middle of planning a scouting trip down there and with the cost of gas, I would like to make the most of my trip. If anyone has any information on areas to check out or start, please let me know! I understand if you do not want everyone to know about it, so PM me if that is a problem, but I am looking for just very general information. (If you want to give me a hot spot I will take it, but Im not looking for it)  :chuckle: It would be great if I could get some help from others in this area. I will be bow hunting it. I am in shape, training and dieting for elk season, so hiking is no problem! Thanks in advance guys!  :tup:
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Post by: zoorda on May 28, 2013, 05:38:38 PM
pm sent
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on May 30, 2013, 12:04:01 PM
pm sent
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Post by: bucklucky on May 30, 2013, 01:39:37 PM
Me too  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: bullcanyon on May 30, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
Not near the unit it was 4-5 years ago. Not totally sure what has happened, but I'll tell ya it has gone downhill. We got a couple bulls two days apart 4 years ago and had many more screaming.  The following year we seen less than a dozen elk all season in that area.  Been roughly the same since.  My cameras don't get many elk pics either.  Some great elk country.  Hope they come back soon.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: bucklucky on May 31, 2013, 12:14:16 AM
I used to hunt it before when it was mostly timber. Seems they have been seriouely clearcutting the areas I used to hunt and elk numbers have dropped I guess. I havent hunted it snce 07. Thought About heading back this year .
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: Fullabull on May 31, 2013, 01:55:43 PM
The biggest reason you don't hear bulls screaming anymore is because of the season change. 4 or 5 years ago we could hunt to the 21st or so which allowed us to actually hunt as the prime rut was starting. Now it's all early season hunting so you have to work to get them to respond. There will be no more screaming (especially in crowded areas) we just don't get to hunt that part of the rut any longer. If you can get real remote you might still get some better vocal action but not like when the season went to the 21st.

I think there is still a very good elk population, it has just become a harder hunt because of the early dates. You really need to get good at elk vocalizations to get them to respond to you now. Know what you are saying and what they are saying and you will still have success. You just won't see as many elk as you use to.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: b0bbyg on May 31, 2013, 02:43:09 PM
First off I am not an expert just will relay what I have seen in the Lewis. 6-7 years and counting. Elk numbers have stayed the same for me. Have not seen more recently than 5 years ago.  Sometimes they move out of a particluar meadow one year but they are still usually in the area, Just got to find them with miles covered.

Most years they are not vocal at all in our area, except last year first day of archery they were bugling and chuckling from sunrise on the first day.

I have a friend that hunts a different part of the Lewis and they have many bulls bugling every year during archery.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: Swatson on June 03, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
I spend a lot of time in that unit from summer time camping/scouting and in both early archery and rifle season and absolutely agree elk numbers have decreased drastically over the last 5 years!  The earlier archery seasons that we have been having don't help with the bugling but that has nothing to do with me thinking the numbers are down.    That being said we still bugle elk and see elk it's just gotten a lot worse over the last 4 or 5 years.     
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: Broken Arrow on June 03, 2013, 09:40:14 AM
Good spot to start is at 4 corners where 560 and 572 connect. Some good pockets of elk clear down to the river. Don't base elk numbers on vocalization during early archery.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: couesbitten on June 04, 2013, 07:10:32 PM
Good spot to start is at 4 corners where 560 and 572 connect.

If you're talking about the 4 corners that I think you are (FR60 and Carson-Gular Rd), that is where the 572 (Siouxon) and 574 (Wind River) units meet.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: sneakyjake on June 04, 2013, 11:33:41 PM
I second the decline in animals.  Also the bugling has taken a nose dive over the last few years.  I don't think the earlier season has made a difference with that.   I used to hear them just fine early on.   I think the cows moved out of my area the last few years taking the bulls with them.  I'm sure other parts of the unit are affected quite differently.  Hopefully it will pick up this year.  Or maybe I will finally draw a nice permit.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: PolarBear on June 05, 2013, 12:20:22 AM
It use to be my favorite unit to hunt.  We would get into nice bulls every single day.  I haven't hunted it in a few years but my buddies say the same thing that has been said here, a noticeable decline in elk and the quality of bulls.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: kglacken on August 05, 2013, 09:08:32 PM
Thought i would bump this thread. I have been scouting around and found some decent area. Going to explore the eastern part of the unit now. Looking to find some gated roads to bike into that hold some elk. If anyone has any information they would be willing to share, that would be great!
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: ELKBURGER on August 06, 2013, 07:16:29 AM
Its a big unit. Alot of people pour into it when weyer shuts everything down.
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Post by: Bunny Thumper on August 06, 2013, 05:28:49 PM
Hunted it for years, less elk every year and more people. Sad situation I don't see getting any better.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 06, 2013, 09:40:10 PM
I love the unit- Hunt it and Packwood every year. Below is a version of what I posted in 2011 on that unit. I recommend a search because we've really discussed that unit over and over again. I will say this, I've seen a big decrease in elk while driving around on roads, but not in the backcountry. I honestly think that if people are planning on road hunting or hunting near the road, they'd probably be better off not wasting their time.  Just my  :twocents:

I grew up hunting that unit with my Grandfather and dad. Still my favorite area for a multitude of reasons. In that unit most people seem to drive around and admire the jaw-dropping steepness of it without ever creasing the leather on their boots. That country is loaded with elk, typically several smaller groups depending on the time of year, but it's not like Weyerhauser land where there's a road every mile and the elk have no choice but to be reasonably close to a road. The elk can sit two ridges over and stay miles from the roads and the people who won't get farther than a mile from the truck. While the thick stuff is great when the pressure is on, if you want some more open areas I recommend using Google earth and some terrain maps to find areas that are above 4000 ft. It starts to take on more of a subalpine character with open patches. When I hunted up there as a kid I absolutely loved it and hated it, but either my dad or grandpa (or both) got an elk almost every year. Their philosophy was "You need to look around and find the areas that are so steep, nasty, rugged, and ridiculous that no sane person would ever go there, and then go there and find the elk that no one else knows about." Then they would drag me out of bed to start walking an hour before daylight, up some Godforsaken mountain, only to go down the other side and up some other Godforsaken mountain. I'll never forget my Grandpa leaning down about every half mile and saying "50% of hunters would stop now..." After the next mile "the other 25% would turn back here..." Eventually, I'd hear "No other crazy a**hole would go up that, now we'll find the elk." Usually we did. Now I drag my hunting friends out there but they usually won't go with me a second time... can't be ruining that brand new pair of boots.  -I've got as buddy now who goes with me.-
 
Based on my experience there here's my best advice on that unit:

-Get far away from the roads
-Get far away from the quad trails if you can
-Get far away from the main hiking trails if you can
-Spend as much time scouting different areas as possible. There are some great holes to be found.
-Have a pack with everything you need for a night in the mountains, the weather and fog rolls in unnervingly fast at times and you won't be able to find the right saddle on the right ridge until it clears. It is damn cold spending the night up there. I've done it and my dad has done it unexpectedly.
-Hunt with a partner, that country is steep and rugged. I broke my arm and sprained my ankle in a rockslide one year. Wouldn’t have gotten out without help.
-Trust your compass and map, I get turned around on the same forking ridges every year and swear each time that my compass has broke. My back-up compass is always broken to. That country plays tricks on you.
-Once you find an area you like, enlarge an aerial map to about 18”x24”, laminate it, it makes it a lot easier to estimate where they are going after you jump them.
-Use google earth to find some dry lake beds at high elevation- they are often filled with grass.
- Have stuff in your pack to build a fire easily at a moment’s notice. If you fall off of a snow covered log into a large creek, you’re hands won’t be able to operate a lighter very well.
-Don’t cross large creeks on snow covered logs.
-Go where others won’t
-Don’t bother wasting gas driving around for hours- you’ll come to believe that no animals live there.


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If nothing else, it is some incredible country.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: timm on August 08, 2013, 03:07:34 PM
thats a great article you wrote. I loved it I hope I see you up there.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: Angus on August 08, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
Good write up Sliverslinger, as much as I would love to pack in 2 or 3 miles, I hunt solo and the idea of packing out an elk that far in 80+ degree temps seems like a great way to ruin an elk. If you see a blue Dodge Dakota I'm probably within a mile, mile and a half.
Title: Re: Lewis River Unit
Post by: Sliverslinger on August 08, 2013, 07:45:07 PM
Good write up Sliverslinger, as much as I would love to pack in 2 or 3 miles, I hunt solo and the idea of packing out an elk that far in 80+ degree temps seems like a great way to ruin an elk. If you see a blue Dodge Dakota I'm probably within a mile, mile and a half.


That was my fear for a long time as well. However, there is a lot of good info out about how to keep meat from spoiling in those temps. Do a search on this forum. There are things that can be done to cool the meat down. I hunt by myself or with one buddy as well. It can be done. Good luck out there. If I see a blue Dakota I'll say hi.
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