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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: Hurricane on May 30, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
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I will be out at Pt. Defiance Saturday and possibly sunday. Anyone else going?
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My old stomping grounds! I miss the days after school or the weekend morning incoming tide mooching that drift half way from Owen beach down to around the point then just a little motor back toward the lighthouse for the deep hole. Find that 100' line where it drops off to 160 and fish around 120 or so. Dad and I used to slay them back in the day. Catching that eddy back to the hole was key to the big ones.
--Steve
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Let us know how you did. I will be out there Tuesday to see if any decent sized kings are in.
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Last time I fished Pt. Defience we hooked allot of fish!
The problem was only one in 10 was a salmon, the rest were gear trashing dogfish :puke:
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Hit Pt. Defiance both days this weekend and was skunked. Fished both sides and could not get any keepers to the boat. Saturday was better seen fish caught all around us but we could not get it done. Better Luck next time. Better than a good day at work.
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Hit Pt. Defiance both days this weekend and was skunked. Fished both sides and could not get any keepers to the boat. Saturday was better seen fish caught all around us but we could not get it done. Better Luck next time. Better than a good day at work.
True that, We do alot of fishing off the Pt Defiance Boathouse Docks.
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Anyone know how much the lauch fee out there is? its been 10years since i fished out there but i figured id give it a shot this weekend....oh and im a little rusty, where is the boat launch?!
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I think it's like 15 dollars not to sure I always launch in Gig harbor where I live and there is no launch few there
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Its 13 dollars. Everyone should launch at Gig Harbor though. Its free! :rolleyes:
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Its 13 dollars. Everyone should launch at Gig Harbor though. Its free! :rolleyes:
Except the bridge toll, lol
I can't remember the name, but there is a nice ramp south of the bridge, on the point?
About a 15 minute run back to the point.
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Narrows marina, its 13 buck too.
I live on the GH side so no toll.
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Do you guys use bait or hoochie and a flasher?
It has been a couple years since I fished the point, it got to where I did not even want to use bait the dogfish were so bad.
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This time of the year the dog fish aren't that bad. I don't troll till mid July this time of the year I mooch or jig
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I really dont fish it anymore. 6 to 8 or so years ago it really took a dive. Used to be stellar fishing. Now its not worth it to me.
When area 9 opened it even got worse. Now the guys up North are picking them off too. Not that its a bad thing, just not worth my time after how good it once was. Puyallup River mouth used to rock for Kings! Now its a ghost town....and 13 bucks to launch, what a joke.
I fish Southworth, Dolphin and St Clair nowdays...
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Oh it's gone down hill but that's not the area that's the state and how it's managed. Not the areas fault and when you know as well as I do then why fish any where else
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Oh it's gone down hill but that's not the area that's the state and how it's managed. Not the areas fault and when you know as well as I do then why fish any where else
Im with ya.
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My uncle has worked at the boat house for 35 years. Dad and him have taught us boys the ropes out there and I'm still amazed on the things they can do when no one else is catching any fish. They usually manage to get a fish
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I went out Tuesday for a couple of hours right at tide change and never had bite. That is pretty normal for me, but I am going to keep trying :chuckle:
When you guys mooch, what are you using? Herring?
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Oh it's gone down hill but that's not the area that's the state and how it's managed. Not the areas fault and when you know as well as I do then why fish any where else
Yup Area 11 isn't as good as before. But like another poster said, I noticed it once they opened up Area 9 and 10 a couple years ago. We've just been fishing Jeff's Head ever since because we don't do as well down in the Gig Harbor/Tacoma area anymore when we have went.
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Years ago I use to see this older guy who hung out in the PT D. bait shop drinking coffee. He would use buzz bombs bounced within a couple feet of the bottom between the point and the slag pile. I watched him many times, motor on out then drift while buzz bombing and hookup. We would fish for hours and be lucky to limit. He would fish for minutes and limit.
I caught myself watching him more then fishing, lol.
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Confirmed. Redstar and I will be hitting it good this weekend, acting like I know what the hell we're doing. Looking forward to finding them bait balls and dragging the cut plugs through them.
I'll be on 68 all weekend going by HawksFan out there.
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anyone every use a diver out there? and if so can you keep deep enough to get into the fish? im taking my buddy out Saturday but only have one downrigger.
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Never fished it before; fully intend to give it a try soon though - especially as summer goes on. What's the water generally like out there? (I run a 16', low profile, flat bottom jon - straight up duck boat - unfamiliar marine areas can make me nervous :o)
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Fishing is pretty good at the clay banks. Caught this one yesterday and lost a slab right at the boat. Just fished the tide change. Going to hit it again today for a bit.(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F06%2F09%2F3yma9uny.jpg&hash=973e980378dcc8a6a3039bd5a613074cb1c9c20c)
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Nice fish, I was out there for the first half of the day and got skunked. Lots of boats fishing off the point, at least 50-60 and never saw a net :/ I'll be hitting it next weekend as well
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We were out there yesterday too. Only running for bottom fish though. I couldn't believe how many people there were! It seemed like you couldn't get 25' without being on top of another boat.
Andrew
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Yeah it gets tight but for the most part people who know what their doing watch their line angles. It's the yahoos drinking coors at eight in the morning fishing from their ski boats that make it interesting.
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Picked this one out there this morning. 13 lbs is what the checker said it weighed. Hooked up right at tide change.
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Must have snagged it.
:chuckle: Nice Fish
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Nice you must have got up early lol. Just heading in now fished the low tide. Pretty dismal
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We went three for five today. Two were twin 18-20 pounders and one about 10 or so.
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Nice haul! We're you trolling?
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Going to give it another shot tomorrow and see if we can't get into a little fun on the low tide change over.
Have our first ultra sound for baby #2 in the am, then running out after that.
I'll have an open seat if anybody wants to tag along? Will be drifting cut plugs as I don't have the EZ Troll for the boat yet...
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Nice haul! We're you trolling?
No I rarely troll Point Defiance. I target fish in specific holes. All caught jigging.
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The Salmon are coming the Salmon are coming!??
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Nice haul! We're you trolling?
No I rarely troll Point Defiance. I target fish in specific holes. All caught jigging.
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Nice! My preferred method as well.
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What do you guys JIG with ? Never done it... wanna try it :tup:
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I prefer a Pt Wilson dart. Trebles are not allowed so most guys come up with alternative rigs they like to use.
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Does anyone ever bottom fish there?
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Other than flounder I don't think it is legal to keep or target bottom fish in area 11 other than lingcod which is typically only open for two months.
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Yep. and you can get a ling or 2 off the sides of the slag pile.
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Does anyone ever bottom fish there?
Around the corner from Point Defiance, heading towards the bridge, there is a little housing area on the water on the East side of the narrows. This is Salmon Beach, out front of Salmon beach use to be a killer lingcod area. I have not fished it in 15 years though.
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I am lucky i can catch bottom fish and rock fish and all sorts of other fish year round in westport. lings have a season and cabazone do to i think.
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I am lucky i can catch bottom fish and rock fish and all sorts of other fish year round in westport. lings have a season and cabazone do to i think.
Go to indianola pier. As far as I know its the longest public pier in the state, It stretches out 775 feet into the water.
Its pretty flat out there though and if you can get your line out about 100 feet from the end of the dock there's a really steep couple hundred foot drop off. I caught a small halibut there one time, Probably 10lbs or so. Lost it pulling it over the railing though, sad day.
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Were is that at Smossy? Sounds like a good place for a surf pole.
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Were is that at Smossy? Sounds like a good place for a surf pole.
Quite a ways from you, but Its worth it for a trip. I love it out there, extremely small town. Just google indianola washington and go to maps. It should pop up then just zoom in.
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Does anyone ever bottom fish there?
That's all I fish for out there. You can do pretty well for sole out there. If you're lucky you can snag a ratfish or dogfish. I've been trying to get a dogfish in the boat the last few times I've been out, but keep getting skunked. I got my hands on a dogfish cookbook that I want to try out. :chuckle:
Andrew
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Does anyone ever bottom fish there?
That's all I fish for out there. You can do pretty well for sole out there. If you're lucky you can snag a ratfish or dogfish. I've been trying to get a dogfish in the boat the last few times I've been out, but keep getting skunked. I got my hands on a dogfish cookbook that I want to try out. :chuckle:
Andrew
How do you catch sole? what kind of bait and hook size and set up
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How do you catch sole? what kind of bait and hook size and set up
We've caught them on just about everything. Typical rig is just a mooching rig with a 6-8oz weight and some herring chunks on the hooks. I've used different jigs, baits, hook sizes, and lures but had the same results no matter what. Just drop some bait down to the bottom and give it a couple minutes. You're bound to catch something!
Andrew
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Ill be out there tomorrow, bobbing around in my Little lund (Estella Marie is her name) say hi if you see me, anyone have any reports from the week?
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Does anyone ever bottom fish there?
I've been out, but keep getting skunked. I got my hands on a dogfish cookbook that I want to try out. :chuckle:
Andrew
:yike: all you have to do is say outloud:
"I am fishing for salmon, sure hope a dogfish does not eat my bait!" See dogfish are evil, they will come up just to tear your leaders up enough so when you do get the salmon of a lifetime on, the leader breaks right at the boat.
Ratfish,
When I was a kid we would bring them up and put them on the dock at Olsen's in Sekiu. They would crawl across the dock hissing at all the tourists, :chuckle:
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Anyone go out today? I'm heading out in the am. Any luck?
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I am going Tuesday morning to see if I can bonk two more. I have not heard any recent reports.
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well .....my reel broke, my seat busted off the mount at broke, motor was shooting brown S*$! out of it...oh did i mention i got skunked again?!
green flasher and hootchies/spoons right??
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green flasher and hootchies/spoons right??
thats what I usually run, wondering what these other guys are using. I fished hard on the 9th without a single bite and fish checker told me she only saw 6 for 44 boats. I figured we were still too early to make it worth going.... but now i'm thinking I may go Sunday!
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Im thinking of making an apperance there this weekend, rummor has it the best and only time to fish the Pt anymore is between the hours of 400am and 600am, hope thats note true
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Im thinking of making an apperance there this weekend, rummor has it the best and only time to fish the Pt anymore is between the hours of 400am and 600am, hope thats note true
I've always been told incoming tide is more important than time of day... but what do I know
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We use to fish the slag pile towards the mouth on and after a good rain. The fish seemed to get really active to head towards the river after a good rain.
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grandpa and i used to slay the kings at the mouth of the puyallup. Constantly limiting out, always seeing fish caught and jumping and flipping around, now its a dead zone. We hardly even bother running down there anymore except to crab. all our attention stays around owens beach and the slag for the most part, we will run out in the middle for silvers and over to browns point if its real slow. we normally do alright trolling with the 742 and a flasher, we run different combos of colors and styles to see whats working. we have a great time out there and thats what matters, whether we are catchin fish or not!
we are in an arima named tinbottom, hope to see some of yall out there this summer!
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Mouth of the puyallup has been poor the last few years. Not sure why. We used to get some big fish down there too.
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Look what happened to the hatcheries on the Puyallup, you will easily figure out what happened to the fish.
1995 the Puyallup was one of the premier steelhead fisheries, now they barely exist on the puyallup.
Yes the Carbon gets a few nice fish, no salmon or steelhead go up the puyallup anymore.
From 2001 - 2011 there has been a 35% decrease in Puget Sound salmon released
No steelhead released in the Puyallup
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Rumor has it that the clarks creek trout hatchery is being shut down and being returned to a steelhead facility to re establish a puyallup river seelhead run
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Rumor has it that the clarks creek trout hatchery is being shut down and being returned to a steelhead facility to re establish a puyallup river seelhead run
Hey flinger, how are those down riggers doing? ;)
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have they even announced a season on the Puy yet?
As planning for the 2013 salmon fishing seasons began in early March, the Puyallup Tribe notified WDFW of their intention to greatly expand the number of days closed to sport fishing. In subsequent meetings throughout March and early April, the Puyallup Tribe conveyed their view that conflict had not subsided with the limited closures agreed to in the previous three years. The Tribe’s position for 2013 is to close sport fishing on all days opened to tribal net fishing from mid-August through December, a total of 54 days.
http://fishingthepuyallup.blogspot.com/ (http://fishingthepuyallup.blogspot.com/)
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Rumor has it that the clarks creek trout hatchery is being shut down and being returned to a steelhead facility to re establish a puyallup river seelhead run
I wish they would, no reason to let such a fishery disapear to be replaced by....................................................Pinks :yike:
Nothing really against pinks,
They are just not steelhead
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have they even announced a season on the Puy yet?
As planning for the 2013 salmon fishing seasons began in early March, the Puyallup Tribe notified WDFW of their intention to greatly expand the number of days closed to sport fishing. In subsequent meetings throughout March and early April, the Puyallup Tribe conveyed their view that conflict had not subsided with the limited closures agreed to in the previous three years. The Tribe’s position for 2013 is to close sport fishing on all days opened to tribal net fishing from mid-August through December, a total of 54 days.
http://fishingthepuyallup.blogspot.com/ (http://fishingthepuyallup.blogspot.com/)
Ya, this? :dunno: :dunno: Might be a good topic for a new thread?
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Look what happened to the hatcheries on the Puyallup, you will easily figure out what happened to the fish.
1995 the Puyallup was one of the premier steelhead fisheries, now they barely exist on the puyallup.
Yes the Carbon gets a few nice fish, no salmon or steelhead go up the puyallup anymore.
From 2001 - 2011 there has been a 35% decrease in Puget Sound salmon released
No steelhead released in the Puyallup
the puyallup hasn't been a "premier" steelhead fishery since around 1985 or so. they were dumping a ton of smolts in there until 2008 or 2009 or so, but the hatchery returns have been piss poor since the early '90s. the river used to get a plant around 1/3 of what the cowlitz received...cowlitz gets several thousand from that, the puke would get around 500. there were more winter runs caught in there in 1984 that most of the west side rivers in this state combined today. sad. i think it has more to do with puget sound/ocean survival than anything else, if i remember correctly most smolt mortality in the south puget sound rivers happens as soon as they hit the sound.
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Yikes! Thread jacked...
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We hit the clay banks, dalco, and the gig harbor side and no salmon. The dogfish were the worst I have ever seen. We went through 6 dozen herring by 1115 so we switched to trolling and no luck. Seen about 6 fish caught. We got back to the gig harbor boat ramp about 245 pm and the fish Checkers only checked 4 fish. The checker said it has been slow.
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We were out there Fri evening, yesterday, and waiting for my buddy to show up today so we can go.
Were burning day light here.......
nothing for us, and seen nothing caught. Talk to the fish checker last night when we came in and about 10 fish for 100 boats :bash:
And there sure is a lot of seas out there for no salmon in the area :dunno:
But our main propose is crab and were doing OK with them :tup:
Just gotta pray no one stole our pots over night.
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I took my brother and his girlfriend out there yesterday. They've both been vegetarian for 15+ years but decided to start eating fish. Went out for bottom fish and couldn't believe the number of boats on the water! Caught 6 sole, 8 bullhead, 1 irish lord (only the second one I've caught out there), 1 octopus, 7 dogfish (the biggest one came home with me for dinner tonight :EAT:), and one ratfish. The sole and the one dogfish are the only ones which came home, but they're all fun to catch. :tup:
My brother and his GF had a ton of fun and were chopping their own bait after the first couple fish. The only thing they were a little squeamish about was when I killed the dogfish.I got the "pleasure" of cleaning all the fish but it's worth it if I can keep them coming out.
Andrew
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I was out there last week and brought two home around 13 pounds each :tung: Heading out there in an hour or so to fish the afternoon tide change. Hope to get lucky
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Nice! I heard most caught on a troll covering some ground. Maybe if we get some rain eventually some fresh fish will show up. I haven't been out in awhile. I'm itching but hoping things pick up.
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Just got back. Hooked one and lost it at the boat but it didnt look like it would make the minimum size any ways :bash:
Seen one fish caught by jigging and picked up a bunch of dog fish :bash:
Talked with the WDFW checker on the way out and at 2pm, 16 fish for 50 about boats.
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I did pretty good for having the wife and kids in the boat with me. Boated two the hatchery king was about 13 pounds, the native 20 lbs that swam away once I got the hooks out. Lost another 10 or so pound king at the boat. And had a pig on but lost it before I set eyes on it.
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I did pretty good for having the wife and kids in the boat with me. Boated two the hatchery king was about 13 pounds, the native 20 lbs that swam away once I got the hooks out. Lost another 10 or so pound king at the boat. And had a pig on but lost it before I set eyes on it.
Kicking myself now! i had the boat all ready to go for the afternoon tide, but decided to stay home. From reading the past post it seemed slow. looks like its picking up a little now
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Look for it to really slow after tuesday. Area 9 and 10 open...
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I think its only going to improve over the next month before it starts to slow.
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How could it with area 9 and 10 opening for retetion tomarow? Ever since they reopened those areas 4 or 5 years ago our south sound fishing has degraded.
They slam allot of fish up there before they can make it down.
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Well I seem to do better all the way through August. No way that the majority of fish have come in yet. It is only going to get better, and the bigger fish will start to show.
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I hear ya there. After fishing this area 10 years ago and before. Its just hard to get excited anymore.
It used to be bonkers at Pt D. With no Putallup fish, and area 9 and 10 open. It sure went south... :(
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I hear ya there. After fishing this area 10 years ago and before. Its just hard to get excited anymore.
It used to be bonkers at Pt D. With no Putallup fish, and area 9 and 10 open. It sure went south... :(
There are still 60K kings that make it back to Oly. The fishing up north lets a ton of fish through still....
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I hear ya there. After fishing this area 10 years ago and before. Its just hard to get excited anymore.
It used to be bonkers at Pt D. With no Putallup fish, and area 9 and 10 open. It sure went south... :(
There are still 60K kings that make it back to Oly. The fishing up north lets a ton of fish through still....
Not if I have anything to do with it. :chuckle:
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Go gettum Nubbs! Ill be trailering to Point Townsand this weekend!
If some could have seen the fishing the Pt D area used to have...Especially the river mouth when it opened. Bonkers everywere!