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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Jrzbullelk on June 08, 2013, 07:18:28 PM

Title: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Jrzbullelk on June 08, 2013, 07:18:28 PM: Hello i am just wondering if there is anyone on this site "gunsmith" that has fluted a bolt i have a Remington 700 7mm mag that i am trying to get the bolt fluted i would also like to know the cost and if it would be worth it to do this to my gun, any help would be nice thanks :dunno:
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 08, 2013, 07:55:45 PM: I have had many Remington 700 bolts fluted over the years and hands down bar none. Kampfeld Custom has by far done the most pristine metal machining work than all the others combined.

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_022.htm (http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_022.htm)

His attention to detail is amazing, he will be building my next several rifles.

Here is the last bolt he fluted for me on a Benchmark built .338 Edge. This is the TI Fluting.

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Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: high country on June 09, 2013, 06:37:33 AM: Good luck getting Carl to build a rifle, he stays booked solid with bolts these days. He has a cnc set up to do the bolts and you will be hard pressed to find better or faster bolt fluting. It's cheaper for me to have him do my bolts than to do them myself....and as mentioned, he does as good of work as can be expected anywhere.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 07:57:56 AM: I must be a lucky guy, Karl should be settling down in Idaho about now. At least he was packing it up and heading that way last time we spoke on the phone.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: whacker1 on June 09, 2013, 08:31:41 AM: what part of idaho is he moving too?
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 09:24:55 AM: Can't recal exactly where but during our conversation we figured it would put him 6 hours or so from me(Wenatchee).
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2013, 10:29:57 AM: does fluting the bolt do antyhing to enhance the performance of the rifle? or just make it look cool? i have always wondered because alnmost all customs have fluted bolt and i dont see that it do much for performance, but mayybe im wrong.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 02:12:16 PM: Ha! Half of the crap we do to custom rifles isn't necessary in the accuracy department.👍
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 09, 2013, 02:16:59 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2013, 10:29:57 AM
does fluting the bolt do antyhing to enhance the performance of the rifle? or just make it look cool? i have always wondered because alnmost all customs have fluted bolt and i dont see that it do much for performance, but mayybe im wrong.

I have only run a few guns with fluted bolts myself but have a lot of friends that get them done on every rifle. I think it is more for looks, but I could also see how it would help trap debris that gets into the action. So I am sure that would be of some benefit and a little weight reduction "not much" but still a little.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Wea300mag on June 09, 2013, 02:20:27 PM: Fluted bolts look very cool, even if it doesn't improve performance.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 03:10:52 PM: Quote from: Wea300mag on June 09, 2013, 02:20:27 PM
Fluted bolts look very cool, even if it doesn't improve performance.

I agree.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: snowpack on June 09, 2013, 03:15:10 PM: shaves a little bit of weight.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2013, 04:24:58 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
Ha! Half of the crap we do to custom rifles isn't necessary in the accuracy department.

thats what i was thinking, but wasnt sure.
never thought of having any of mine fluted... but i agree it sure does look cool!
Title: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: cwuwildcat on June 09, 2013, 05:36:28 PM: Fluting the bolt is like putting 26"ers and low profiles on a Tahoe. It's for the looks and because you've got the cash.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Taco280AI on June 09, 2013, 05:40:04 PM: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1098.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg364%2Fnwoutdoors%2FIMG_0022.jpg&hash=242e2cf5a22ff277c8f4804a14e927ad457eece5) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/nwoutdoors/media/IMG_0022.jpg.html)
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Taco280AI on June 09, 2013, 05:41:39 PM: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1098.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg364%2Fnwoutdoors%2FIMG_0048.jpg&hash=66a260e8a7f5a2fa2faea63fc772514338491cd8) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/nwoutdoors/media/IMG_0048.jpg.html)

Bolt by Kampfeld
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 06:19:30 PM: Sexy T! May I ask the chambering?
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Taco280AI on June 09, 2013, 06:29:33 PM: That's the 270, bolt fluted and bead blasted
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: high country on June 09, 2013, 06:37:05 PM: Hammer, what gives with the bases?
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2013, 06:49:18 PM: Quote from: high country on June 09, 2013, 06:37:05 PM
Hammer, what gives with the bases?
:yeah: i thought a 20 moa rail was a requirement on an edge!
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: mountainman on June 09, 2013, 07:54:37 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2013, 06:49:18 PM
Quote from: high country on June 09, 2013, 06:37:05 PM
Hammer, what gives with the bases?
:yeah: i thought a 20 moa rail was a requirement on an edge!

20 moa one peice is the way to go!
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 08:24:08 PM: Haha! I do what I want, when I want and don't explain jack.👍

They were sufficient for MOA of Mulie.

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Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: The100Road on June 09, 2013, 08:25:08 PM: I know it probably varies. but what could i expect for a price range if i were thinking about wanting to have this done?
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: whacker1 on June 09, 2013, 08:27:52 PM: Quote from: The100Road on June 09, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
I know it probably varies. but what could i expect for a price range if i were thinking about wanting to have this done?

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_022.htm (http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_022.htm)

check out the price list here along with styles
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: ellensburgpo on June 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM: Where are you seeing a price list?
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 09, 2013, 08:57:59 PM: It's about 85.00 bucks if I remember correctly. I had him bed my rifle, flute the bolt, install his "Hunter" bolt knob, open my bases & drill and tap my actions base holes to 8/40.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Jrzbullelk on June 09, 2013, 09:06:29 PM: Thank you all for the info keep it coming :tup:
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: mountainman on June 10, 2013, 09:09:35 AM: Shouldnt those holes be touching at that range?? :-) Nice buck
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 10, 2013, 09:41:48 AM: Quote from: mountainman on June 10, 2013, 09:09:35 AM
Shouldnt those holes be touching at that range?? :-) Nice buck

Always good for a smart ass reply and a laugh. A nice change from the wired tight professionals I work with every day. ;/ Well, everyone but the clown that owns the M&P.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: mountainman on June 10, 2013, 10:07:33 AM: Fluting was primarily designed as a raceway for dirt and debris, especially snow and ice, to have a raceway to run into without seizing the bolt. Side benefits are lighter weight (not much) and the cool aesthetics of it.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: whacker1 on June 10, 2013, 10:27:58 AM: Quote from: mountainman on June 10, 2013, 10:07:33 AM
Fluting was primarily designed as a raceway for dirt and debris, especially snow and ice, to have a raceway to run into without seizing the bolt. Side benefits are lighter weight (not much) and the cool aesthetics of it.

Numbers shown around different areas of the interwebs all come back to around 1/2 ounce in weight. Some a little more and others a little less. flute barrel has more gains.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: whacker1 on June 10, 2013, 10:29:10 AM: Quote from: ellensburgpo on June 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Where are you seeing a price list?

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_009.htm (http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_009.htm)

try this link for the price list
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: ellensburgpo on June 10, 2013, 10:31:10 AM: Bam, thanks whacker1.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Taco280AI on June 10, 2013, 05:23:57 PM: Other rifle with a fluted bolt. Isn't matted though like the 270
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Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: mountainman on June 10, 2013, 07:36:43 PM: Anything that makes them "sexier"!
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 10, 2013, 07:44:13 PM: Looks good "T" . :tup:
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Taco280AI on June 10, 2013, 07:56:54 PM: Thanks, though it won't be slinging 300 grainers anywhere like yours. Starting off with 180s (factory loads) and eventually go 200-230gr when I get into handloading.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 10, 2013, 07:58:36 PM: I really like the deeper fluting as compared to some of the shallower fluting options out there.

This is a spiral fluted Pacific Tool & Guage bolt I put in a super clean older. 6 digit Rem700 long action, it's chambered in 7mm WSM match with a 30" heavy Palma Shilen 9 twist. Shoots the Matrix 190's wicked accurate.

I'll take Kampfeld's flutes over this type any day.

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Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: mountainman on June 14, 2013, 07:29:15 PM: :tup:
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: huntandjeep on June 15, 2013, 12:06:10 PM: Not the best pic but here's some Stiller flutting.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: mountainman on June 15, 2013, 12:22:13 PM: Looks nice! :tup:
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: jackelope on June 15, 2013, 12:30:13 PM: Thinking about sending my .300 win mag Encore barrel to Kampfeld to be fluted. I talked to him and he said he could do it. Sadly, it doesn't have a bolt I could also get fluted.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Austrian Hunter on June 15, 2013, 12:49:33 PM: Quote from: ellensburgpo on June 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Where are you seeing a price list?

Go to Gunsmithing and than Gunsmithing home and the price list is on top right.
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: Raul Duke on June 16, 2013, 06:02:01 PM: :tup: My son will love this on his new .243 SPS
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: huntandjeep on June 17, 2013, 06:37:13 PM: Quote from: jackelope on June 15, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
Thinking about sending my .300 win mag Encore barrel to Kampfeld to be fluted. I talked to him and he said he could do it. Sadly, it doesn't have a bolt I could also get fluted.
:chuckle:
. Do it flutted barrels just look sexy. The Hart barrel on my custom has a spiral flute
Title: Re: FLUTED BOLT
Post by: jay.sharkbait on June 17, 2013, 10:07:57 PM: I just had Kampfeld flute a 700 bolt and install a new knob. I sent it priority mail on a Saturday and it was back to me the next Friday. One week turnaround is unheard of in the gun industry and the machine work was perfect.