Post by: MuleDeerCrazy on June 20, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
Any thoughts from you muzzleloader buffs?
Thanks!
Post by: snowpack on June 20, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
Post by: MountainDevil54 on June 20, 2013, 04:02:05 PM
A lot of bullets to choose from for the 50cal inline. Caliber size won't make up for poor shooting.
Post by: MtnMuley on June 20, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 20, 2013, 08:10:58 PM
Anybody have any hands on experience with their .52 cal. muzzleloaders? Seems like it would be a good option between the .50 and .54 for elk. I have a .50 cal. Austin & Halleck, but seems a little light for elk... maybe I just don't have the right load?
Any thoughts from you muzzleloader buffs?
Thanks!
I have a 52 and one of the main reasons I bought it was because it comes with a 1-26 twist. This will allow you to shoot longer heavier bullets and achieve stabilization.
I use .458 (45-70) rifle bullets in my 52 versus the normal pistol bullets. Barnes and Knight both offer some very good premium bullets. Sierra - Hornady - Speer offer very good less expensive 458's also.
With all that said the 50 can be used the same way with the same bullets. The 52 can achieve a bit better velocity but not enough to make a huge difference.
An additional thought about the 52 - it can shoot the even larger .475 bullets.
So it really is a toss up... but the 50 is certainly the more widely accepted ML and it is easily acceptable for elk hunting...
This is a 52 with a Western Kit installed...
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FP1010014.jpg&hash=da3cd154ab3e2a545c4ac3ae735f9c99f5f1163b) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/P1010014.jpg.html)
Post by: MuleDeerCrazy on June 21, 2013, 05:23:19 AM
Yea, I should probably stick with the .50 cal., it's a nice long-barreled gun too.
Thanks.
Post by: HntnFsh on June 21, 2013, 05:45:56 AM
Post by: washelkhunter on July 29, 2013, 09:37:07 AM
Post by: Sabotloader on July 29, 2013, 11:15:26 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520DISC%2520Ex%252052%2520cal%2FComposite.jpg&hash=7faa9ae79871136c862416cb3f9490a7b65a50ce) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20DISC%20Ex%2052%20cal/Composite.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520DISC%2520Ex%252052%2520cal%2FIMG_1070.jpg&hash=f7d47633982cedce9d935e04b77876b459ffa52f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20DISC%20Ex%2052%20cal/IMG_1070.jpg.html)
http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24040 (http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24040)
I can put a Western Kit in - right now it is setup with a Lehigh 209 Breech Plug
Post by: fly-by on July 29, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
I use .458 (45-70) rifle bullets in my 52 versus the normal pistol bullets. Barnes and Knight both offer some very good premium bullets. Sierra - Hornady - Speer offer very good less expensive 458's also.
Have you had much experience shooting .458s out of a .50? I have a .50 Knight Disc Extreme and a bunch of different .458 bullets for my 450 Marlin ranging from 300 to 500 grains. Picked up some .50/.458 sabots but have yet to shoot any as other projects have taken precedence. Any idea how heavy a projectile can be stabilized at reasonable velocity?
Post by: Sabotloader on July 29, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
I use .458 (45-70) rifle bullets in my 52 versus the normal pistol bullets. Barnes and Knight both offer some very good premium bullets. Sierra - Hornady - Speer offer very good less expensive 458's also.
Have you had much experience shooting .458s out of a .50? I have a .50 Knight Disc Extreme and a bunch of different .458 bullets for my 450 Marlin ranging from 300 to 500 grains. Picked up some .50/.458 sabots but have yet to shoot any as other projects have taken precedence. Any idea how heavy a projectile can be stabilized at reasonable velocity?
Fly-by, not sure if you were asking me or not but 90% of the bullets I shoot from my 50's are .458 bullets - like you said regular rifle bullets.
Stabilization really depends on length and diameter of the bullet. I know from a 1-28 stabilizing a 500 grain lead bullet is not a problem, yet stabilizing a long 305 grain brass bullet with a 1-28 can be marginal.
I know Doc White shoots a 600 grain lead conical from a 1-24 White - no problem
mike