Post by: Sabotloader on June 28, 2013, 03:34:02 PM
I got a box of Speer .500x300 gr. Deep Curls... These bullets will load almost perfecty in the MK85 Wiseman barrel and to loose in the GM DISC barrels. Knurling the bullets creates a great fit in the DISC 50's that I have.
The Speers are a lot less expensive to shoot at paper and birds than the Barnes bullets - but by the looks of them they would be an excellent deer/elk bullet especially since they are 'Deep Curls'.
They are kinda stubby but for open sight ML's they really could be a good alternative for sabotless
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520MK-85%2520PG%2FSpeer500x300.jpg&hash=530b0e020f2115837c7a2213530fc3cc02226f43) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20MK-85%20PG/Speer500x300.jpg.html)
When I got back to my daughters house I did open one of the boxes of 325 Barnes... I was surprised at their construction and the possibilty of decent areodynamics. I think it was GM54-120 that first mentioned them to me and I should have paid more attention...
These are really nice looking and I really do not doubt their performance factor - except maybe a very close range on a deer... elk no problem...
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520MK-85%2520PG%2FBarnes500x325a.jpg&hash=fa4391a8a5604563f79d797cac56489e06eeea90) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20MK-85%20PG/Barnes500x325a.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520MK-85%2520PG%2FBarnes500x325.jpg&hash=2daa53e0d3618d78633c289af4b79eb64b922e5f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20MK-85%20PG/Barnes500x325.jpg.html)
I really do want to get out and shoot these but we are looking a 90* + temps all next week... but, I wll get it done sometime...
Post by: HUNT-HARD on June 28, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
Post by: philepe on June 29, 2013, 08:35:13 AM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 29, 2013, 09:04:13 AM
Sounds very interesting. Im new to the muzzleloader world and just have barely dabbled in rifle reloading so experimenting like this isn't something Im willing to just yet. But Im excited to see your results
yep@ I can totally understand that!
Post by: huntingfool7 on June 29, 2013, 09:08:44 AM
Post by: OnHoPr on June 30, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 30, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
You actually engrave the rifling and also create a gas seal with the jacketed bullets? Are they really the soft?
In the Wiseman barrel they are tight enough to engrave the copper and once through the crown they go down with 25-35#'s of pressure. I do not believe they get a complete gas seal that way but close. For the seal I will use a .510x.125 Shot Card under the bullet.
Copper is not all that hard so it really does engrave just fine.
Now in my other Knight barrels the bullets drop right to the breech with their own weight - so those I will have to knurl between a couple of files...
I am hoping to do that later today and try to get some pictures...
Post by: Plainswalker on July 01, 2013, 11:46:38 AM
Post by: Royal47 on July 01, 2013, 11:59:38 AM
Watching this with baited breath, thanks for keeping us posted on these sort of things. Those of us fairly new at it appreciate this sort of information.
:yeah:
Post by: whacker1 on July 01, 2013, 12:47:30 PM