Post by: returnofsid on July 02, 2013, 06:16:29 AM
Post by: JPhelps on July 02, 2013, 06:48:42 AM
If your son means a triple reed diaphragm I will have to disagree. A single reed is way easier to learn on and use.
Also for a beginner an external bugle may be a better option while you learn to call.
With that said if you are hunting spikes/cows on the east side I would primarily stick with cow calls. For that, I would get a single reed diaphragm and external cow call and start practicing.
Post by: mtncook on July 02, 2013, 07:01:23 AM
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Post by: returnofsid on July 02, 2013, 07:04:00 AM
Are you hunting spikes on the east side?
If your son means a triple reed diaphragm I will have to disagree. A single reed is way easier to learn on and use.
Also for a beginner an external bugle may be a better option while you learn to call.
With that said if you are hunting spikes/cows on the east side I would primarily stick with cow calls. For that, I would get a single reed diaphragm and external cow call and start practicing.
While I'd love to shoot a big bull, my chances are pretty slim...lol. Most of the areas I'm considering allow for Any Elk or Any Bull. When you say "external cow call," I'm unsure what you're referring to. Are they a tube type call, similar to a deer grunt tube that can be used also as a doe bleat call?
Post by: fastdam on July 02, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
Post by: returnofsid on July 02, 2013, 07:11:42 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 02, 2013, 07:14:42 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on July 02, 2013, 07:15:35 AM
An "external" call (either cow call or bugle) comes with its own reed, so all you do is blow into it to generate a sound. Another common system is to use a in-mouth diaphram reed- works for cow sounds and bugling- often with some kind of tube to add resonance and to direct the sound. Probably tougher to learn to use a mouth diaphram for a beginner- but it's best in the long run IMO.Are you hunting spikes on the east side?
If your son means a triple reed diaphragm I will have to disagree. A single reed is way easier to learn on and use.
Also for a beginner an external bugle may be a better option while you learn to call.
With that said if you are hunting spikes/cows on the east side I would primarily stick with cow calls. For that, I would get a single reed diaphragm and external cow call and start practicing.
While I'd love to shoot a big bull, my chances are pretty slim...lol. Most of the areas I'm considering allow for Any Elk or Any Bull. When you say "external cow call," I'm unsure what you're referring to. Are they a tube type call, similar to a deer grunt tube that can be used also as a doe bleat call?
Post by: JPhelps on July 02, 2013, 07:57:50 AM
Post by: returnofsid on July 02, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Post by: Max the dog on July 02, 2013, 10:24:27 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 02, 2013, 10:26:07 AM
I will give shout out for Phelps game calls because he is to courteous to do himself. Check out his website, and buy locally made calls that work.
:yeah: I bought one for my dad and he is a very novice caller. He takes it with him on his drives to work and he almost sounds like a cow elk now. :chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 02, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
I will give shout out for Phelps game calls because he is to courteous to do himself. Check out his website, and buy locally made calls that work.
:yeah: I bought one for my dad and he is a very novice caller. He takes it with him on his drives to work and he almost sounds like a cow elk now. :chuckle:
:yeah: I did the same when I bought my 1st phelps cow call and now I have two. I recommend phelps calls as well. :tup:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 02, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
:yeah: buy 2....u need a backup :tup:I will give shout out for Phelps game calls because he is to courteous to do himself. Check out his website, and buy locally made calls that work.
:yeah: I bought one for my dad and he is a very novice caller. He takes it with him on his drives to work and he almost sounds like a cow elk now. :chuckle:
:yeah: I did the same when I bought my 1st phelps cow call and now I have two. I recommend phelps calls as well. :tup:
Post by: FANATIC on July 02, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
Post by: norsepeak on July 02, 2013, 08:47:18 PM
Post by: returnofsid on July 03, 2013, 07:51:06 AM
It was suggested that I learn to use an "External Cow Call." On the Phelps website there doesn't appear to be much for descriptions and maybe there doesn't need to be but I'm unsure what constitutes a "Cow Call." All of the external calls seemed to be called "Elk Calls." Are they all "Cow Calls?" As an example, is this a Cow Call, Calf Call or Bull Elk Call? http://phelpsgamecalls.com/products/elk/phelps-green-mountain-elk-call (http://phelpsgamecalls.com/products/elk/phelps-green-mountain-elk-call)
Post by: elk247 on July 03, 2013, 08:07:25 AM
Edit. That call is a cow call. No bull sounds from that beauty. The rubber band is adjustable to vary the pitch so you can achieve calf sounds as well as cow. That is exactly the call you want. :tup:
Post by: addicted2hunting on July 03, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
I will give shout out for Phelps game calls because he is to courteous to do himself. Check out his website, and buy locally made calls that work.:yeah:
Post by: turkeydancer on July 03, 2013, 10:16:47 AM
No matter whether rifle, archery, or muzzy cow calls can work great .... note that 3/4's of the bulls will move away from bull calls, but not so with cow calls.
Post by: 3am on July 05, 2013, 03:49:07 PM