Post by: TheHunt on July 03, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
I was thinking a 130 SST by Hornady.
Thoughts?
Post by: WSU on July 03, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 03, 2013, 02:50:53 PM
Post by: Curly on July 03, 2013, 02:59:14 PM
Isn't the old Hornady Interlock a better constructed bullet than the SST? Or have they improved the SST since I looked into them years ago?
Post by: Feanix on July 03, 2013, 03:06:11 PM
Either gun will do the trick with a well placed shot. Personally i think a 140-150 gr through a .270 is awesome for elk. If recoil is a concern, a good 130 in the .270 or a 110-120 in the .243
Post by: WSU on July 03, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Post by: headshot5 on July 03, 2013, 03:07:31 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 03, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
Post by: Bob33 on July 03, 2013, 04:17:44 PM
Post by: doyourtime89 on July 03, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
Post by: Feanix on July 03, 2013, 05:05:26 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 03, 2013, 05:09:01 PM
Post by: Feanix on July 03, 2013, 05:18:52 PM
For the OP, 130's will definately do the trick and they will be slightly easier to build a load with to manage recoil. If you keep the shots inside 200, you'll be pretty much point and click at a wide range of velocities.
Post by: huntnphool on July 03, 2013, 05:21:58 PM
I think a well placed 243 will do the trick, as will the 270.+1, but if you insist on the .270 then a 130gr. Partition would be my choice. :twocents:
Post by: Feanix on July 03, 2013, 05:26:32 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on July 03, 2013, 05:37:24 PM
Post by: fastdam on July 03, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 03, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
If he kept the 243, what bullet and weight should I be looking at?
Post by: Feanix on July 03, 2013, 07:07:03 PM
Edit: looks like the accubonds BC advantage is in the heavier bullets. 130's are fairly comparable. .418 for the Partition vs .435 on the Accubond
Post by: huntnphool on July 03, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
I will look at the partitions weight retention and BC numbers. If anyone has those numbers that would be great.The BC of these bullets is irrelevant when considering their use in what likely will be a shot of less than 300 yards, as suggested for youth hunters. They might be informative to look at but should have no bearing on your decision IMO. :twocents:
If he kept the 243, what bullet and weight should I be looking at?
I've got more than a couple trophies with partitions in my time, all with single shots. They are as fine a hunting bullet as any other on the market and I'm quite sure there are several other members on here that have similar first hand experience. ;)
Post by: Feanix on July 03, 2013, 07:48:39 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 03, 2013, 07:53:55 PM
I will look at the partitions weight retention and BC numbers. If anyone has those numbers that would be great.1OOgr is a good bullet but I had my boys shoot a couple deer with the 87 gr SST and the worked well ...as a matter a fact a couple dropped right where they stood ...one thing to remember about faster calipers like a 243 when loading lighter bullets is the hotter you load them the more they will explode ...I never shoot hot loads and I never try making bullets to fly faster than what is recommended ...If you lighten up the load on a 87 gr SST it will hold together better than say max loads ...There are many factors that come into play and the more you shoot and load ammo the more you learn ...Just :twocents: I am trying my best to tone my opinions down some :chuckle: :chuckle:
If he kept the 243, what bullet and weight should I be looking at?
Post by: b23 on July 04, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
Put a brake on it, you'll be glad you did!!!
Post by: crazysccrmd on July 04, 2013, 06:53:23 AM
Post by: coachcw on July 04, 2013, 07:09:23 AM
Post by: TheHunt on July 04, 2013, 07:17:43 AM
Do you and your nephew a favor and put a brake on it. Not only will it significantly reduce the recoil but you both will end up shooting it better. Any decent "smith" can put a muzzle brake on it for you and for the small amount it will cost, it will pay you dividends in shooting pleasure. Even though your 270 probably doesn't seem to have much recoil now, you will be amazed at what a *censored* cat a small baffle or radial style brake will turn it into. Even the biggest tough guys I know that would never allow themselves to have a braked rifle are always happier AFTER they finally tried one with a brake on it.
Put a brake on it, you'll be glad you did!!!
You know... I think I might have to call around to get one on that rifle. Any ideas the cost?
Post by: b23 on July 04, 2013, 06:35:22 PM
I like baffle style brakes like the mini muscle that has slots on the side better than the radial type brakes that has holes all the way around. Both work well but the radial style blows dirt and debris back in your face when shot from a prone position.
You'll be amazed at how little felt recoil your 270 will have after you have a brake installed and don't be surprised if you start wanting them on all your rifles.
Post by: Bofire on July 04, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
:dunno:
Carl
Post by: Don Fischer on July 04, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
Post by: Rooster1981 on July 05, 2013, 08:41:36 AM
My old man hunted elk for 45 years, He tagged over 20 bulls and I think 5 cows with his 270. He always used hornady rounds and started out with the 150 gr until hornady came out with the 140 gr btsp . He would tell you that is the best slug for a 270 elk round. He loaded with imr 4831, and I think some wear around 54-55 grains of powder. :twocents:
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 05, 2013, 08:45:43 AM
:) I'd think most any 270 bullet would work on a youth, what did he do to ya?:chuckle:
:dunno:
Carl
Post by: TheHunt on July 05, 2013, 08:47:59 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 05, 2013, 09:28:08 AM
And as said, 130 partitions in a 270 Win. are more than adequate for elk within reasonable shooting ranges for a youth. If you are in or near King County, PM me if you want to handload some, or try them out on a light rifle.
Post by: WSU on July 05, 2013, 12:34:58 PM
Post by: doyourtime89 on July 05, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
http://www.limbsaver.com/firearms/recoil.php (http://www.limbsaver.com/firearms/recoil.php)
Post by: Don Fischer on July 05, 2013, 11:29:56 PM
Post by: winshooter88 on July 06, 2013, 04:12:30 AM
Post by: thinkingman on July 10, 2013, 01:34:02 PM
Hearing damage is permanent.
Post by: TheHunt on July 10, 2013, 02:32:13 PM
And he has access to a youth model 30-06
Post by: JLS on July 10, 2013, 02:57:42 PM
My daughter is learning to shoot. I will have her use my wife's 30-06, which I shortened the stock on and put on the best recoil pad I could find.
I plan to load up some very light plinker loads and let her shoot the heck out of the gun and get familiar with loading, shouldering, the safety, trigger press, the scope and so on.
I will load some reduced loads of 130 grain bullets and let her shoot some 100 yard targets before season. I do not plan to have her shoot full house loads of any sort this year. I may load some hunting loads that are hotter than the reduced loads, but she won't shoot these until she's got the cross hairs on a critter. No one feels recoil when they're shooting at an animal. Flinches are developed on the range.
You may want to employ a similar strategy. A 130 grain 270 bullet is plenty for him to hunt with.
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 10, 2013, 03:34:14 PM
I don't know about the SST. It would likely be fine if he can place it right behind the shoulder. If he hits bone, I don't know how well it would do?the sst is essentially a polymer tipped interlock. Anything a interlock can do an sst can also.
Isn't the old Hornady Interlock a better constructed bullet than the SST? Or have they improved the SST since I looked into them years ago?
Post by: Curly on July 10, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
I don't know about the SST. It would likely be fine if he can place it right behind the shoulder. If he hits bone, I don't know how well it would do?the sst is essentially a polymer tipped interlock. Anything a interlock can do an sst can also.
Isn't the old Hornady Interlock a better constructed bullet than the SST? Or have they improved the SST since I looked into them years ago?
Good to know. Thanks. :hello:
Post by: Feanix on July 10, 2013, 03:45:35 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 10, 2013, 03:50:41 PM
Post by: Feanix on July 10, 2013, 04:01:53 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 10, 2013, 09:12:58 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 10, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
I read a good article a while back in Eastmans or Western hunter and they compared all the major bullets used for elk and then tested them. I was suprised that after all these years the old Nosler Partition was right up there with all the modern bullets. Although it didn't expand as wide as some of the newer bullets it almost doubled in diameter, had 70%+ weight retention and PENETRATED THE DEEPEST of all the bullets tested. My wife shoots a .270 and is about 110 lbs with her boots on. I load a tamed down 130gr Partition and it doesn't kick much more than the hot 100gr loads for her old .243! I say slow down a 130gr partition to around 2700-2800fps and you will have an absolute winner!sound advice right here!
partitions are great bullets
Post by: Feanix on July 10, 2013, 09:22:48 PM
I read a good article a while back in Eastmans or Western hunter and they compared all the major bullets used for elk and then tested them. I was suprised that after all these years the old Nosler Partition was right up there with all the modern bullets. Although it didn't expand as wide as some of the newer bullets it almost doubled in diameter, had 70%+ weight retention and PENETRATED THE DEEPEST of all the bullets tested. My wife shoots a .270 and is about 110 lbs with her boots on. I load a tamed down 130gr Partition and it doesn't kick much more than the hot 100gr loads for her old .243! I say slow down a 130gr partition to around 2700-2800fps and you will have an absolute winner!:tup:
Post by: Curly on July 11, 2013, 08:59:24 AM
I read a good article a while back in Eastmans or Western hunter and they compared all the major bullets used for elk and then tested them. I was suprised that after all these years the old Nosler Partition was right up there with all the modern bullets. Although it didn't expand as wide as some of the newer bullets it almost doubled in diameter, had 70%+ weight retention and PENETRATED THE DEEPEST of all the bullets tested. My wife shoots a .270 and is about 110 lbs with her boots on. I load a tamed down 130gr Partition and it doesn't kick much more than the hot 100gr loads for her old .243! I say slow down a 130gr partition to around 2700-2800fps and you will have an absolute winner!:tup:
I like that plan. :tup:
Post by: flinter on July 21, 2013, 09:39:25 AM