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Title: PARVO
Post by: jkhbuchanan on July 05, 2013, 12:15:04 PM
does anyone on here have or had a dog with parvo? My 9 week old wirehair pointer had it when we bought him a week ago and we didn't know it. We had him in the vet the last few days getting shots and stuff but hes not doing too well. Just trying to get some pointers as to try and beat this, we have been force feeding him pedialyte thru a surenge to keep him hydrated. Any advice would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: WRL on July 05, 2013, 12:38:35 PM
How do you know he has parvo?

Did you take your dog to the vet for a check-up? If you did, what did the vet say?

WRL
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 05, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
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Post by: stevemiller on July 05, 2013, 12:48:55 PM
just keep up with the pedialite keep him inside with a clean pad change daily but dont let him outside until he beats it.(he said he had the dog at the vet for the last couple of days).
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: YellowDog on July 05, 2013, 12:54:28 PM
Before I met her (years ago), my girlfriend got a cocker/beagle mix from the pound.  He had Parvo and as I understand it was sick for quite a while.  She claims she slept on the kitchen floor with him and I believe she fed him like you are doing.  He became a great little dog and lived to the ripe old age of 15 when his body finally gave in to cancer of the spleen which caused internal bleeding and we had to put him down.  That was 3 years ago and I still miss that little guy even though he wasn't "my dog" and I usually don't like small dogs.

I can ask her if she has any special tips.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: jkhbuchanan on July 05, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
Thanks steve that's what I figured. We have him back at the vet right now getting him an anti nausia shot and another iv then its back to the house to baby him some more. We just got h and his sister this last weekend and she seems fine. Its so hard keeping them seperated but it needs to be done.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: stevemiller on July 05, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
yep keep them seperated and keep the slobber cleaned up and away from the other pets.most dogs get parvo on the eastside from the irrigation water,so if you have irrigation it will be in the ground forever.if no irrigation any dog in the poast that had it wherever he had it it will always be there.most dogs pull through it they will usually be a little smaller in size than normal because it will stunt the growth especially as a pup.the ones with the most trouble of course are the purebred breeds.good luck.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: Stilly bay on July 05, 2013, 03:32:05 PM
My male lab actually got it from a bad vaccine.

 I Caught it very early on ( parvo makes their breath smell kinda like sour meat IMO) It was a rough few days of constant nursing and Vet care but he pulled through and is doing great three years later. The only long term side effect was he was sensitive to changes in his diet but that could have been a coincidence- even that he has out grown.


like others have said keep giving him pedialyte, maybe an IV drip if the pup won't drink on his own. The are cheap and easy enough for a civilian to apply.

SPRAY BLEACH WATER ON EVERYTHING IT COMES IN CONTACT WITH. There is a pool cleaning solution that is supposed to be even more effective I can't remember the name just now..
Spray down every thing he pees, poops, or drools on. Kiss your lawn good by because your going to need to spray out in the grass if he does his business there. Parvo can stay in the ground for months or sometimes years.
Your dog won't get reinfected but others can.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: WRL on July 05, 2013, 03:59:36 PM
Thanks steve that's what I figured. We have him back at the vet right now getting him an anti nausia shot and another iv then its back to the house to baby him some more. We just got h and his sister this last weekend and she seems fine. Its so hard keeping them seperated but it needs to be done.

I'd have them show you have to do the IV....its the best and quickest way to keep him hydrated. If he is sick to his stomach, he's not gonna keep much down.

Have them show you how to manage the iv bag and how to clear it if necessary. Its your best chance.

WRL
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: wildweeds on July 05, 2013, 04:30:39 PM
"Nolvasan" or "One stroke environ" kills everything under the sun.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: stevemiller on July 05, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
Like what was said the vaccine is another huge contributor to this,if it is not kept right at the store it wont work and your pet will get parvo.i suggest only buying the vaccine from the vets office it may cost a little more but i am sure like when this was my story your bills at the vet are racking up more than that.Once again good luck with everything sounds like you are getting all the right info on this site.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: Stilly bay on July 05, 2013, 06:25:18 PM
Like what was said the vaccine is another huge contributor to this,if it is not kept right at the store it wont work and your pet will get parvo.i suggest only buying the vaccine from the vets office it may cost a little more but i am sure like when this was my story your bills at the vet are racking up more than that.Once again good luck with everything sounds like you are getting all the right info on this site.

the price difference between administering it your self and letting the vet do it is nothing compared to the monetary and emotional expense of getting a bad vaccine.

I learned my lesson, I will never roll the dice with vaccines from any other source than a vet clinic again. Trying to save $15 ended up costing me close to $500 and it almost cost me my dog.

I hope the OP's dog pulls through and stays healthy.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: jkhbuchanan on July 05, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
Thank you everyone for the advice but both puppies past away tonight. The female we didn't even know she was sick till today. R.I.P. Ruger and Remi.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: stevemiller on July 05, 2013, 10:55:16 PM
So sorry to hear of this.You did all the right things they were purebreds and they get it the worst.really sorry for you and your family
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Post by: Bucks2Ducks on July 05, 2013, 10:59:04 PM
Sorry to hear this, it's never easy to loose a dog.
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Post by: 10Key on July 05, 2013, 11:04:29 PM
Sad end to this, Parvo is scary stuff. Sorry for your loss
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Post by: Don Fischer on July 05, 2013, 11:09:32 PM
Parvo is ugly. I had a 10mo old shorthair here for about a year, belonged to a friend. He came down with it. Took him to my vet and had to keep him outside till they tested him. had my choice of leaving him or taking him home with all the short's and several IV bags. made a pad on the small couch for him. He barely moved for the better part of a week and got shots twice a day and 1/2 bag of ringer lactate twice a day. took about 4 days till he was getting around at all again, didn't even go out first three days, didn't even move. I would see sign's he might be getting better then he'd crash a bit, broke my heart. I moved out on the big couch to sleep just to be near.On the sixth day I had hum outside going to the toilet and he passed a huge amount of blood. Called my vet right away and it was alright. parvo attacks the intestine and the blood passing was normal, unloading bad intestine.

If it happen's again I would either leave him with the vet until it's finished or take him home with all the shots and IV's you need. I would not run a pup back and forth. Leaving at the vet would have cost $800, taking him home cost $400 and included all the shots I needed and IV bags. I had to go back for some extra shots and a couple extra IV bags but all the extra's were part of the $400. Duke made it but that was one of the most heartbreaking time's of my life. Get up hope every day and by the evening see it trashed, not good at all!
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: wildweeds on July 05, 2013, 11:33:08 PM
That SUCKS! I hope you contact the person you got those pups from and read them the riot act,I'll bet they (the pups) NEVER got a puppy shot at all!
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: jkhbuchanan on July 05, 2013, 11:58:20 PM
yeah I tried to get ahold of him and he wont answer the phone. I texted him and he swears up and down they were completely fine and he had no idea. Well I call BS. anyways I texted him tonight and let him know that we basically drained our bank account to try andkeep them alive and they didn't make it. there might have been a few choice words in there as well.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 06, 2013, 06:29:53 AM
So sorry for you and your family.  I was hoping for a happy ending to this story.  Could you PM me with the breeder info?
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: WRL on July 06, 2013, 07:59:29 AM
So sorry.

WRL
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: AspenBud on July 06, 2013, 09:13:49 AM
Sorry for your loss. I had a bad feeling this would go sideways when I saw the title of the thread.

Parvo is a horrid disease for pups to catch and is really the biggest reason why vets and breeders will often tell you to keep them isolated from world until the last of their series of parvo vaccines is administered. Unfortunately that advise isn't always followed. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen new pups brought into a dog park or a field trial area etc. A lot of guys want to take advantage of early development asap when they get a pup and there is sense to that, but they're also playing with fire.
 
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: jkhbuchanan on July 06, 2013, 11:22:53 PM
huntingfool7 the guy we got them from is not a breeder he just had the litter posted in the giant nickel. I guess that's the last time I ever buy dogs that are not from a breeder. I just looked his add is still in the giant nickel. The title is WIREHAIR POINTERS
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: Stilly bay on July 07, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
huntingfool7 the guy we got them from is not a breeder he just had the litter posted in the giant nickel. I guess that's the last time I ever buy dogs that are not from a breeder. I just looked his add is still in the giant nickel. The title is WIREHAIR POINTERS

Do other potential buyers a favor and post an ad in the same place stating what happened to you.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: pens fan on July 07, 2013, 08:00:09 AM
I had two cockers that got it and survived. Three from their litters. I think they contracted it from the park next door to us somehow. Never expose pups to other strange dogs when they are young, before thier parvo shots. When we have new owners pick up pups we always tell them not to stop at rest stops and let the pup out at the dog area. You never know what other dogs have that use those areas.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: lokidog on July 07, 2013, 08:57:43 AM
Sorry to hear about your pups!  The seller needs a good thrashing for not taking care of them properly.
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: JJD on July 11, 2013, 09:16:14 AM
That's very sad, Parvo is nasty stuff.
Something that many do not understand is that the Parvo vaccine does not work very well until the entire series of inoculations is complete.
I had a young dog get it and it cost me hundreds (some years back) and I didn't want to go through it again.  Therefore, I never take my pup to public places (parks, rest areas, dog parks or even dog tests, where there are dogs who's care is unknown) until several weeks after the last injection in the series.


see;
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/how_parvo_infection_happens.html (http://www.marvistavet.com/html/how_parvo_infection_happens.html)

Quote;We recommend that puppies be restricted from public outdoor areas
until their vaccination series is completed at age 16 weeks. :unquote
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: dallygirl on July 11, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
So sorry to hear that it ended this way.  What an awful ordeal for you and your family. 
Title: Re: PARVO
Post by: bearpaw on July 11, 2013, 11:21:09 AM
I don't think parvo will ever be wiped out. We always vaccinate pups after they are 4 to 5 weeks. As soon as they start eating dog food they need parvo shots, too bad many people do not understand how important this is. Very sorry that you lost your pups, but I doubt the guy did it intentionally, doesn't sound like he's a breeder and was probably just ignorant to the dangers of dog diseases.
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