Post by: WSU on July 10, 2013, 12:11:18 PM
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
Post by: seth30 on July 10, 2013, 12:15:07 PM
Post by: WSU on July 10, 2013, 12:16:30 PM
I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
That's the plan. I just have to be around when they are.
The reason behind the live trap was so I can release the neighbor dogs, my dogs, etc.
Post by: jackmaster on July 10, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
You want to trap your dogs?I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
That's the plan. I just have to be around when they are.
The reason behind the live trap was so I can release the neighbor dogs, my dogs, etc.
We have a sheep farm across the street from my girls, I hear coyotes around alllll the time, Im just not *censored* enough to go talk to the land owner and ask if hes had any problems and needs me to do alittle exterminating. Not that I know what I'm doing, but It would make for great target practice.
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 12:20:07 PM
dude hang a huge piece of meat in a tree just to where they can get at it and watch it just as the sun is coming up or going down, you will be able to pick them off... if there is any meat packn companies by your place they will be able to hook you up :tup: keep us postedEven maybe leftover salmon heads or something? Those seem to reek really well in the sun. Thats a good idea though. pew pew.
Post by: WSU on July 10, 2013, 12:20:42 PM
You want to trap your dogs?I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
That's the plan. I just have to be around when they are.
The reason behind the live trap was so I can release the neighbor dogs, my dogs, etc.
We have a sheep farm across the street from my girls, I hear coyotes around alllll the time, Im just not *censored* enough to go talk to the land owner and ask if hes had any problems and needs me to do alittle exterminating. Not that I know what I'm doing, but It would make for great target practice.
Not particularly, but I'd rather accidentally catch them in a live trap than some other trap. The traps will be in my yard, which is also where my dogs are.
Post by: WSU on July 10, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
dude hang a huge piece of meat in a tree just to where they can get at it and watch it just as the sun is coming up or going down, you will be able to pick them off... if there is any meat packn companies by your place they will be able to hook you up :tup: keep us posted
I had a nice bait pile going last year and it would have worked great if I were to have shot some of them. I tossed a couple deer hides and the bones in my pasture and saw a yote at least a few times a day for a few days.
Post by: jackmaster on July 10, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 10, 2013, 12:24:15 PM
Oh ok I get it.You want to trap your dogs?I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
That's the plan. I just have to be around when they are.
The reason behind the live trap was so I can release the neighbor dogs, my dogs, etc.
We have a sheep farm across the street from my girls, I hear coyotes around alllll the time, Im just not *censored* enough to go talk to the land owner and ask if hes had any problems and needs me to do alittle exterminating. Not that I know what I'm doing, but It would make for great target practice.
Not particularly, but I'd rather accidentally catch them in a live trap than some other trap. The traps will be in my yard, which is also where my dogs are.
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 10, 2013, 05:09:15 PM
You want to trap your dogs?I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
That's the plan. I just have to be around when they are.
The reason behind the live trap was so I can release the neighbor dogs, my dogs, etc.
We have a sheep farm across the street from my girls, I hear coyotes around alllll the time, Im just not *censored* enough to go talk to the land owner and ask if hes had any problems and needs me to do alittle exterminating. Not that I know what I'm doing, but It would make for great target practice.
Smossy, put on your big girl pants :chuckle: and go knock on that door. Coyotes are hard on sheep, I would bet that you get permission for access. All those yoty backstraps are calling.
Post by: biggfish on July 10, 2013, 05:44:30 PM
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 10, 2013, 06:17:19 PM
WSU, I've seen coyotes eating apples. Maybe that would be a better alternative bait that wouldn't be stinking up your place and attracting your own dogs.
Might look up hog traps on youtube. I bet a "hog pen" with a trap door would work. I've often thought if a guy was building a chicken coop, one corner should have a live trap built into it.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 10, 2013, 06:25:00 PM
You want to trap your dogs?I live in a semi-rural area and have a coyote problem. There is a den across the road in a wooded area (I can hear them at night all the time).Wouldn't give it the benefit of the doubt. Shoot those things. All of them.
I'm going to shoot them if they show up in the daylight or in the where I can see them at night, but was wondering if it was possible to trap them? Anybody have any thoughts? I've read that they are almost impossible to get in a live trap.
Any pointers would be great. They ate a chicken the other day while i was at work. Damn thing was brave enough to come within 10 feet of my front window to snatch it out of the front yard.
That's the plan. I just have to be around when they are.
The reason behind the live trap was so I can release the neighbor dogs, my dogs, etc.
We have a sheep farm across the street from my girls, I hear coyotes around alllll the time, Im just not *censored* enough to go talk to the land owner and ask if hes had any problems and needs me to do alittle exterminating. Not that I know what I'm doing, but It would make for great target practice.
Not particularly, but I'd rather accidentally catch them in a live trap than some other trap. The traps will be in my yard, which is also where my dogs are.
Well there goes my favorite method
Post by: Humptulips on July 10, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
there are companies that commercially make live coyote traps I don't know the legalities of and they are spendy but you won't have to worry about random dead pets to have to explain to the neighbors.
Oh my god, what makes you think coyote traps are lethal?
No trapping license needed to protect your animals (mention of a dead chicken) if it is on your own property. That's for cage traps. You can set cage traps but don't get your hopes up. Highly unlikey you will catch many coyotes in cage traps.
Other option is you can get a special permit to use padded jaw traps. Will they catch your dogs? Probably but so what. Go out and turn them loose. Unless you have dumb dogs they'll learn to steer clear of them. It is a huge myth that traps mean injuries to dogs. That being said you have to know what you're doing and have the right traps.
For a non-trapper it is a steep learning curve. I recommend you forget about trapping them. You probably won't be succesful.
Hanging meat sounds pretty far fetched to me too. Good if you want to attract flies.
Post by: Machias on July 11, 2013, 06:51:20 AM
Post by: jackmaster on July 11, 2013, 06:53:11 AM
it isnt far fetched, i killed 2 in my back yard doing it this way, hung a deer carcass and the skin in a little cedar tree just high enough where they could get at it, killed one first thing in the morning and one in the evening, but where i live it isnt like the yotes are educated, they never have anyone messn with them :tup:there are companies that commercially make live coyote traps I don't know the legalities of and they are spendy but you won't have to worry about random dead pets to have to explain to the neighbors.
Oh my god, what makes you think coyote traps are lethal?
No trapping license needed to protect your animals (mention of a dead chicken) if it is on your own property. That's for cage traps. You can set cage traps but don't get your hopes up. Highly unlikey you will catch many coyotes in cage traps.
Other option is you can get a special permit to use padded jaw traps. Will they catch your dogs? Probably but so what. Go out and turn them loose. Unless you have dumb dogs they'll learn to steer clear of them. It is a huge myth that traps mean injuries to dogs. That being said you have to know what you're doing and have the right traps.
For a non-trapper it is a steep learning curve. I recommend you forget about trapping them. You probably won't be succesful.
Hanging meat sounds pretty far fetched to me too. Good if you want to attract flies.
Post by: pnwmtnmn on July 11, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
Post by: jackmaster on July 12, 2013, 06:39:45 AM
Jack master, you got lucky! I know a guy in Okanogan county that shot a coyote from his yard, skinned it where it fell and in the morning had 2 bobcats eating on it shot them and admits that it will never happen again in his lifetime. Just cause you had it happen once doesn't mean it is a sure thing.never said it was a sure thing, it is an idea man :tup:
Post by: kirkdekalb on July 13, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
Started building one today and will finish tomorrow. It is extremely open. It can be set to where there is only a couple of directional props to get in the cage to fire the doors. One of the ways the trap can be set is like a dirt hole set. Prepare where the trap is to be set. Dig hole. Place trap over hole. Make look like an animal has been digging. Place bait in hole. When animal digs in hole trap fires. Base of trap has a slot that omits the wire. This is set over hole. In order for the animal to dig or get to bait the slot makes him turn due to the angle. This make his hind end be in the trap when the trap fires.
Just came up with this set for the trap, but will incorporate on rest made of this design. It is a two door- side door trap. The back has a door and there is a door the complete length of the trap. There are 12 springs on the side door, and 6 springs on the back door. When set it has only two sides showing with a small partition or sticks and rocks to guide him.
The problem is the trap is a little complex for some. There is not just one way to set and bait but about 10 or more.
Cages just have to be too big to be practical for any very large animal over conventional methods in my opinion
Post by: Machias on July 13, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
Efficiency
We set 46 SoftCatch traps, 45 WS–T, 43 Collarum, and 41 cage-traps in Arizona and south Texas during the autumn of 2001 and the spring of 2002. During 492 trap-nights we captured no coyotes in cagetraps and had no coyotes activate the trap mechanism (zero efficiency). During 483 trap-nights we captured 13 coyotes (27 per 1,000 trap-nights) coyotes in the Collarum restraint, with 15 potential captures (efficiency= 0.87, SE=0.09 ). During 507 trap-nights we captured 7 coyotes (14/1,000 trap-nights) of the 8 that activated the WS–T snare efficiency = 0.88, SE = 0.13). We captured all of the 25 coyotes that activated the SoftCatch traps (efficiency=100%) during 517 trap-nights (48 coyotes per 1,000 trap-nights).
Post by: kirkdekalb on July 14, 2013, 12:47:44 PM
Snares, footholds, and cage traps have improved dramatically in their ability to catch in the last 10 years , in the last 5 years. That in itself changes all -especially if the person reading, trying to learn, is limited on the changes.
Just the quality video, that can be purchased, has very much improved in the last ten years.
Post by: kirkdekalb on July 23, 2013, 03:10:27 PM
The idea is to get him to come in turning to dig or smell and getting in position. When he bites or digs bait, trap fires. The partition is to be positioned to make him turn and go the way you want him to, just like a dirt hole set conventional.
There are 12 springs on the side door and 6 on the back door. The folding partition in the background can also be used in place of the single one in the picture.
Post by: biggfish on July 23, 2013, 05:14:19 PM
I'm not a trapper and mostly have just seen noose snares used for coyote and wolf.there are companies that commercially make live coyote traps I don't know the legalities of and they are spendy but you won't have to worry about random dead pets to have to explain to the neighbors.
Oh my god, what makes you think coyote traps are lethal?
No trapping license needed to protect your animals (mention of a dead chicken) if it is on your own property. That's for cage traps. You can set cage traps but don't get your hopes up. Highly unlikey you will catch many coyotes in cage traps.
Other option is you can get a special permit to use padded jaw traps. Will they catch your dogs? Probably but so what. Go out and turn them loose. Unless you have dumb dogs they'll learn to steer clear of them. It is a huge myth that traps mean injuries to dogs. That being said you have to know what you're doing and have the right traps.
For a non-trapper it is a steep learning curve. I recommend you forget about trapping them. You probably won't be succesful.
Hanging meat sounds pretty far fetched to me too. Good if you want to attract flies.
Post by: TheNoob on July 23, 2013, 06:18:04 PM