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Title: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: acnewman55 on July 15, 2013, 04:44:16 PM
What knife are ya using to skin yer black bear, and why?

Different then yer deer skinning knife?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: fillthefreezer on July 15, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
havalon. all i use on any critter.
ive used the piranta edge but recently switched to the bolt as i let my wife use my edge and its hers now...
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 15, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
Swiss Army Knife. Easy to sharpen.
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Post by: boneaddict on July 15, 2013, 05:07:44 PM
Same blade, but a bear will dull a knife faster than a deer.  Its good to have some sort of stone handy.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Eli346 on July 15, 2013, 05:22:25 PM
 My taxi and a couple of others I know use a Victorinox Paring knife. It will usually skin a bear for about $4 or so. I use a Havalon and a Case skinner.
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Post by: carlyoungs on July 15, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
Any sharp knife? I think people over think things sometimes. A good sharp knife should work for any animal.
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Post by: boneaddict on July 15, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: bearpaw on July 15, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
I'm not sure how many bear I've skinned or how many different brands of knives I've used, but I prefer about a 3 to 4 inch blade with a good point for splitting hide up the legs and that will make it all the way through skinning without needing sharpened. I used to carry a Gerber multi tool that worked pretty well till I lost it. I had skinned everything, even moose with that knife. I could skin and cut everything off at the joints with that thing, plus it had all those other handy tools including scissors for notching tags, I need to buy another one.

This spring, just to try it out, I was using one of those free knives that you get at the SCI banquets, it did surprisingly well for a freeby knife made in China. I only had to resharpen during one bear, all the other bear I made it all the way without sharpening.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: bearpaw on July 15, 2013, 05:38:42 PM
I should mention, the key to getting through skinning without resharpening is to always cut from the inside outward. Never cut from the outside inward.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Wea300mag on July 15, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
Buy a knife made with s30v steel, this material keeps its edge longer than anything I have used. I have the Kershaw Blur s30v.

The Havalon is good if you don't mind babying it, blades break easily. :twocents:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: boneaddict on July 15, 2013, 05:44:07 PM
I bought one of them fancy knives Rainshadow makes.   It does wonders.    :chuckle:  Its more about the wood than the steel though. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: acnewman55 on July 15, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
Any sharp knife? I think people over think things sometimes. A good sharp knife should work for any animal.

that may be true but a sharp drop-point style will skin a beast much more effectively than a tanto style blade.  i'm not saying that just to make a point, i'm wondering what knives folks use because i want to know which blade styles are most effective.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2013, 09:41:03 PM
I bought one of them fancy knives Rainshadow makes.   It does wonders.    :chuckle:  Its more about the wood than the steel though. :chuckle:

Ive got a couple of those Rainshadow knives. Love them and they work really nicely.  Havalons work incredibly well as long as you're careful. No prying.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: callonetta on July 15, 2013, 10:04:12 PM
After years of trial and error I got myself a PUUKKO knife, I will never use anything else, you can actually shave with one and does not take more than a few passes to get it back to super sharp. The history of these Finish knives is pretty interesting too.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: liljozie495 on July 15, 2013, 10:07:53 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 15, 2013, 10:16:19 PM
I have started using a Lenox folding knife with the titanium blade.
They are wickedly sharp and the best selling point I see is the blades are shatterproof!!!  :tup:
Had a saleman just lay on the blade and it didn't bust!!
















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Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: MatthewHunter98 on July 16, 2013, 10:09:29 PM
any blade you can keep sharp :tup:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 16, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
 :yeah:
I should mention, the key to getting through skinning without resharpening is to always cut from the inside outward. Never cut from the outside inward.  :twocents:

 
But, you'll end up with more fleshing to do that way.  Kinda 6-1, half dozen to the other. I think it is worth it though. Believe it or not, there is less chance of cutting through a good hide if you cut towards it.
 
Around the tail, ankles, neck, I like a scalple. Otherwise I like my Kershaw or Puma Hunter. The Puma has heft and a radious that lends itself to skinning. Use your wrist to walk the complete radious of the blade. The Kershaw has a point so it is almost as useful as the scalple but stronger. (Stronger than a havalon too.)
 
On  another note... The Puma Hunter is heavy but really becomes a freeking utility tool just shy of a hatchet.
 
-Steve
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on July 16, 2013, 10:43:22 PM
Used a havalon on my spring bear for the first time. Never looking back. Amazed I waited so long to get one.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 16, 2013, 10:44:12 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Hunterman on July 16, 2013, 10:53:57 PM
I've used a Case XX for more years then I care to count. Its the only knife I use.

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Austrian Hunter on July 16, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
I use a Cutco hunting knife.  Works like a champ!!!! 
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Post by: Jellymon on July 16, 2013, 11:06:45 PM
Havalon piranta for skinning.  :tup: I use a gerber gator for tougher jobs.


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Post by: Rooster1981 on July 17, 2013, 06:14:22 AM

 I use my Buck 110, I've been using the same knife for over twenty years now.  :tup:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: acnewman55 on July 17, 2013, 10:21:55 AM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Ripper on July 18, 2013, 10:33:19 AM
I carry 4 knives and a Gerber game hatchet in my backpack. I carry a folding Buck with a gut hook, a custom made skinning Knife, a custom utility Knife and a small Gerber. I use the same set up for all game animals.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 18, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
Havalon
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: JohnVH on July 18, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
the best tip, is to bring a sharpener with you  :tup:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 18, 2013, 11:35:18 AM
the best tip, is to bring a sharpener with you  :tup:

You don't need one with a Havalon. They come with 20 extra surgical steel blades; easily replaced.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Nape.257 on July 18, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
Puma Skinner
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 01:46:18 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.

They are flimsy but thats what makes them so sharp. I think the sharpness makes up for the lack of strength, but you would definetly need something alittle bigger to get through bones and stuff.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: h20hunter on July 18, 2013, 01:53:11 PM
My number one requirement in a bear knife: Sharp.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 18, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.

I have 3 of them and all the knives have held up well and I have put them threw a lot. The blades like I have said and shown are prone to breaking when used for more heavy work then skinning. The shorter 22 blades are stronger and been working well for me. I still like them aluminum knife over the plastic one. I like the thickness of the grip on the plastic one. Think the new torch or whatever the newer model is called will be the best. I will pick up one for this fall.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: fillthefreezer on July 18, 2013, 03:03:03 PM

They are flimsy but thats what makes them so sharp. I think the sharpness makes up for the lack of strength, but you would definetly need something alittle bigger to get through bones and stuff.
dont go through bones, go around. havalon is all a guy needs for anything in north america. i can do a bear with 1.5, maybe 2 blades. youre doing something wrong if youre breaking the blades.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 03:06:27 PM

They are flimsy but thats what makes them so sharp. I think the sharpness makes up for the lack of strength, but you would definetly need something alittle bigger to get through bones and stuff.
dont go through bones, go around. havalon is all a guy needs for anything in north america. i can do a bear with 1.5, maybe 2 blades. youre doing something wrong if youre breaking the blades.
:dunno: Ive never skinned a game animal, I just play with all the toys. I know lots of people that go chop through the chest cavity's, joints. stuff like that.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Johnb317 on July 18, 2013, 03:23:18 PM
I've never skinned a bear, but two elk and can still shave with the blade haven't touched it with a steel yet either.   fjellkniven helle, got it from http://www.ragweedforge.com/helle/fjellkniv.htm (http://www.ragweedforge.com/helle/fjellkniv.htm)
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Buckmark on July 18, 2013, 03:31:26 PM

They are flimsy but thats what makes them so sharp. I think the sharpness makes up for the lack of strength, but you would definetly need something alittle bigger to get through bones and stuff.
dont go through bones, go around. havalon is all a guy needs for anything in north america. i can do a bear with 1.5, maybe 2 blades. youre doing something wrong if youre breaking the blades.
:dunno: Ive never skinned a game animal, I just play with all the toys. I know lots of people that go chop through the chest cavity's, joints. stuff like that.
If you are chopping though bones you are doing more work than you need to or have to do. bones are held together to make up the skeleton by Ligaments, Tendons, Muscle and Cartilage, cut through that soft stuff and they fall apart, no hacking, chopping, spliting sawing etc...its super easy....unless your doublej and cut yourself in the proccess..
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.

Cut straight and you'll be fine. Don't even think about attempting to use them for anything other than cutting straight. Don't try to pry ball+socket joints apart of anything like that.

Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 03:50:41 PM

They are flimsy but thats what makes them so sharp. I think the sharpness makes up for the lack of strength, but you would definetly need something alittle bigger to get through bones and stuff.
dont go through bones, go around. havalon is all a guy needs for anything in north america. i can do a bear with 1.5, maybe 2 blades. youre doing something wrong if youre breaking the blades.
:dunno: Ive never skinned a game animal, I just play with all the toys. I know lots of people that go chop through the chest cavity's, joints. stuff like that.
If you are chopping though bones you are doing more work than you need to or have to do. bones are held together to make up the skeleton by Ligaments, Tendons, Muscle and Cartilage, cut through that soft stuff and they fall apart, no hacking, chopping, spliting sawing etc...its super easy....unless your doublej and cut yourself in the proccess..

lol. Alright sounds good. So one sharp knife with tons of replaceable blades it is.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 03:51:50 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.

I have 3 of them and all the knives have held up well and I have put them threw a lot. The blades like I have said and shown are prone to breaking when used for more heavy work then skinning. The shorter 22 blades are stronger and been working well for me. I still like them aluminum knife over the plastic one. I like the thickness of the grip on the plastic one. Think the new torch or whatever the newer model is called will be the best. I will pick up one for this fall.
So they have 2 styles of blades?
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: h20hunter on July 18, 2013, 03:52:16 PM
Smossy....cut smart...not hard. As long as it isn't gut shot I really do enjoy the knife work.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Buckmark on July 18, 2013, 03:54:38 PM

They are flimsy but thats what makes them so sharp. I think the sharpness makes up for the lack of strength, but you would definetly need something alittle bigger to get through bones and stuff.
dont go through bones, go around. havalon is all a guy needs for anything in north america. i can do a bear with 1.5, maybe 2 blades. youre doing something wrong if youre breaking the blades.
:dunno: Ive never skinned a game animal, I just play with all the toys. I know lots of people that go chop through the chest cavity's, joints. stuff like that.
If you are chopping though bones you are doing more work than you need to or have to do. bones are held together to make up the skeleton by Ligaments, Tendons, Muscle and Cartilage, cut through that soft stuff and they fall apart, no hacking, chopping, spliting sawing etc...its super easy....unless your doublej and cut yourself in the proccess..

lol. Alright sounds good. So one sharp knife with tons of replaceable blades it is.
Or one good knife and a sharpener you know how to use...
I have gutted and taken apart my far share with the leatherman i carry...
Had a hunting partner years ago in utah that lost his knife, found out after he dropped a buck. Broke a piece of shale and used it to gut it out...
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
Smossy....cut smart...not hard. As long as it isn't gut shot I really do enjoy the knife work.
Should let me tag along on a deer hunt and show me how its done, Ill help ya pack and gut it out.  :hello:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: h20hunter on July 18, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
I'll keep you posted. The brother in law and I may haul over to the east side for a day/two day doe hunt at the end of Sept....whats one more dude along.....
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2013, 03:59:09 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.

I have 3 of them and all the knives have held up well and I have put them threw a lot. The blades like I have said and shown are prone to breaking when used for more heavy work then skinning. The shorter 22 blades are stronger and been working well for me. I still like them aluminum knife over the plastic one. I like the thickness of the grip on the plastic one. Think the new torch or whatever the newer model is called will be the best. I will pick up one for this fall.
So they have 2 styles of blades?

They have several different blades and handle configurations. The coolest one, I think, is the fillet knife.

http://www.havalon.com/ (http://www.havalon.com/)

http://www.havalon.com/fillet-knife-havalon-baracuta-z-xt-127z.html (http://www.havalon.com/fillet-knife-havalon-baracuta-z-xt-127z.html)
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
I'll keep you posted. The brother in law and I may haul over to the east side for a day/two day doe hunt at the end of Sept....whats one more dude along.....
200lbs more of pure man muscle. Thats what. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 04:11:46 PM
Havalon only way to go lol
Yeah after all the looking around those are what I would go with myself, Going to pick one up soon.

I really like the concept of the havalon knives, especially the weight savings - but I've read so many reviews about how flimsy these knives and blades are.

I have 3 of them and all the knives have held up well and I have put them threw a lot. The blades like I have said and shown are prone to breaking when used for more heavy work then skinning. The shorter 22 blades are stronger and been working well for me. I still like them aluminum knife over the plastic one. I like the thickness of the grip on the plastic one. Think the new torch or whatever the newer model is called will be the best. I will pick up one for this fall.
So they have 2 styles of blades?

They have several different blades and handle configurations. The coolest one, I think, is the fillet knife.

http://www.havalon.com/ (http://www.havalon.com/)

http://www.havalon.com/fillet-knife-havalon-baracuta-z-xt-127z.html (http://www.havalon.com/fillet-knife-havalon-baracuta-z-xt-127z.html)

I've got the fillet knife and it's great.  Sure wish they'd come out with a bigger one..............
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 04:21:02 PM
They all fold up and close right?
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 04:25:35 PM
Yep
Awesome, Thought so but I can get the forsure from someone that actually owns one. Maybe Ill pick up a few. The piranta and the filet knife.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 18, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
They put out a new longer blade model that is thicker, because they have had a lot of people breaking them. I will try them out because I like the longer ones but I have yet to break a 22.
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: Smossy on July 18, 2013, 04:50:06 PM
They put out a new longer blade model that is thicker, because they have had a lot of people breaking them. I will try them out because I like the longer ones but I have yet to break a 22.
Got a link or know the name by any chance?

Is it the #60A ?
Title: Re: Blade choice for skinning a black bear?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 18, 2013, 04:59:13 PM
Yeah I just went to there site and it is the 60A that is there new model that is 20% thicker by what there site says.
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