Post by: 92xj on July 16, 2013, 06:25:08 AM
In your personal experience, have you ever had any issues with LEOs with barbs pressed down with some pliers creating a smooth surface?
In the South, that was plenty good for the LEOs and we never had an issue. Out here, I have been hearing some stories of the cotton ball check as well as a barb that is pressed flat is still considered a barb, it needs to be completely off the hook.
I have a ton of salmon stuff I need to make barb less, hooks won't fit in my grinder so it's hand filing or pressing with pliers. Hand filing is not a desired way I want to spend a few nights.
Post by: cohoho on July 16, 2013, 06:27:24 AM
Post by: letmhunt on July 16, 2013, 06:30:11 AM
Post by: lokidog on July 16, 2013, 08:46:53 AM
A cottonball seems pretty extreme to me, I would be taking that hook with me to show the judge.... :bash: I like having the bump there as I figure it might help a bit keeping something on but still allows for a hands-free release if necessary.
Factory barbless is probably the best way to go, but more expensive. The negative to smushing is that the hooks seem to rust there more quickly.
Post by: h20hunter on July 16, 2013, 08:49:53 AM
Post by: lostbackpacker on July 16, 2013, 09:05:26 AM
Just buy barbless.....about 12 years ago some smooth cheeked newbie game me a ticked.....I had smooshed it down with pliers...he ran thread up along the inside bend of the hook....it caught....I got written up. My one and only F&G violation ever.
that's a bunch of crud....
Post by: fishcrazy on July 16, 2013, 09:18:38 AM
I'm not messing around. I buy barbless hooks and keep them in their own box. I've also found that they work better than crimped hooks because they have a little different shape. I'm adding some bends to them to help them hook up better. Still wish I could use barbless but Ive gotten these figued out to work about 75% as good as barbs.
Kris
Post by: Moose-head on July 16, 2013, 09:28:06 AM
Post by: Hunterman on July 16, 2013, 09:32:11 AM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: 92xj on July 16, 2013, 09:37:02 AM
What hook would you recommend going to on kwikfish and brads cut plugs? I have plenty of each and just curious what the best option is.
I'm going to bend most of the barbs down, but also open to purchasing a pack or two of new hooks and replacing a few of them.
Post by: h20hunter on July 16, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
Just buy barbless.....about 12 years ago some smooth cheeked newbie game me a ticked.....I had smooshed it down with pliers...he ran thread up along the inside bend of the hook....it caught....I got written up. My one and only F&G violation ever.
that's a bunch of crud....
I agree....however......what you gonna do. I even went to court...told them I pinched it and had been checked before....judge said nope.....doesn't matter....pay up.
The officer at Lake Stevens PD this year was giving me some good natured grief about it when I renewed my CPL....she said what is a spotless fella like myself doing with a F&G violation. Told her the story and she made a pretty smart jab at young men that can't become police and look for a different carreer...in F&G!
Post by: lokidog on July 16, 2013, 09:44:51 AM
Post by: Ripper on July 16, 2013, 09:45:55 AM
Post by: fishcrazy on July 28, 2013, 08:35:35 PM
on smaller plugs like a U-20 your not going to like the big river hooks because they are in my opinion to heavy for them. Use the regular Gami Si-wash hooks with the same trick bend as you find for the big river hooks.
Kris
Post by: Kola16 on July 28, 2013, 08:40:05 PM
Post by: jechicdr on July 28, 2013, 10:35:10 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 28, 2013, 10:39:22 PM
I crimped mine and then twisted the hook in the pliers to essentially break the barb off. This essentially leaves a rough spot on the hook. Suspect it would not grab a thread, but it does offer some resistance to the hook sliding out, though it does not prevent it from coming out.
This is the same technique that I use, but sometimes It doesn't get the barb completely off. Regardless. Its good enough.
Post by: tmike on July 28, 2013, 10:44:01 PM
Post by: Smossy on July 28, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
Spend a little more and buy Gami barbless or go with the Matsuo Sikles and crimp them down good. Depends on how you are fishing and what you're fishing for. Just my :twocents:We exclusively only use Gami's here!
Maybe not always the barbless, but nothing some pliers cant fix, they have really weak/small barbs so they're easy to crimp.
Post by: Skillet on July 28, 2013, 11:14:18 PM