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Title: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: Hi-Liter on July 16, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
Holder blasts 'stand your ground' after Zimmerman verdict
 
Holder took aim at "stand your ground" laws like the one in Florida that have expanded the right to respond with deadly force if attacked outside the home.
   
Those laws "try to fix something that was never broken" and "senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods," he said.

"By allowing -- and perhaps encouraging -- violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety," Holder said in his first public comment on legislation that more than 30 states have passed in some form.

By Tom Cohen, CNN

updated 9:09 PM EDT, Tue July 16, 2013
Title: Re: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: fastdam on July 16, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
Coming from a man who illegally sells guns  and explosives to drug cartels. He sure is an arrogant rip off.
Title: Re: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 16, 2013, 10:32:50 PM
Not to mention that stand your ground laws had nothing to do with this case.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/341684.php (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/341684.php)

See also, http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/14/sorry-the-zimmerman-case-still-has-nothi (http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/14/sorry-the-zimmerman-case-still-has-nothi)

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Knocked down and pinned to the ground by Martin, Zimmerman would not have had an opportunity to escape as Martin hit him and knocked his head against the concrete. The duty to retreat therefore was irrelevant. The initial decision not to arrest Zimmerman, former Sanford, Florida, Police Chief Bill Lee said last week (as paraphrased by CNN),  "had nothing to do with Florida's controversial 'Stand Your Ground' law" because "from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense."


Never let a crisis go to waste for these tyrants, while the dunderheaded low info voters just eat it up.
Title: Re: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: csaaphill on July 17, 2013, 12:44:58 AM
when i seen that on tv the other day before the defences closing I did that experiment and guess what yes you could of grabed your gun while pined down so theory goes down the toilet.
Very glad that the jury had comon sense.
Title: Re: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: Dave Workman on July 17, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Holder plays deflection game with attack on ‘SYG’
 
Attorney General Eric Holder yesterday set his sights on the legal concept of “Stand Your Ground” (SYG) laws while addressing the NAACP annual convention, deflecting attention from the shrinking likelihood he will pursue federal charges against Florida citizen George Zimmerman, acquitted over the weekend of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/holder-plays-deflection-game-with-attack-on-syg (http://www.examiner.com/article/holder-plays-deflection-game-with-attack-on-syg)
 
Title: Re: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 25, 2013, 09:52:10 AM
Informative article on stand your ground, self-defense, and conduct before, during, and after a self-defense conflict.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/houston-gas-station- (http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/houston-gas-station-)
shooting-syg-or-not-break-it-down-with-aoj/

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Take-Home Message: Keep Conduct Utterly Consistent with Consciousness of Innocence, At ALL Times

Of course, the Zimmerman prosecutors brought their case with far less evidence than here. The take home message is that if these Houston prosecutors do not bring this woman to trial based upon her post-shooting conduct, it is not because they can’t try to do so, it’s because they’ve chosen not to do so. The power and authority is in their hands, not hers.

. . . .

For this reason it is always, always, always essential to conduct yourself in a manner entirely consistent with consciousness of innocence, before, during, and after a self-defense conflict. Doing so preserves your lawyer’s ability to conduct a compelling narrative of innocence for the police investigators, for the prosecutors, for the Court, and for the jury. And it’s that compelling narrative of innocence that is the only thing standing between you and a life time of jailhouse joy.
Title: Re: Eric Holder "End stand your ground Laws"
Post by: JJD on August 05, 2013, 09:54:06 AM
End Eric Holder (as attourney general)
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