Post by: Doc Sauce on July 30, 2013, 10:26:24 PM
I read folks saying they catch tons of flounder and pile perch... as though the things are super common. I cannot catch a single one. I have quit taking my kids because it became so hard trying to be positive and encouraging to them when inside I "know" that no matter what we do, we aren't going to catch anything.
At this point, I do not think I am going to buy a hunting license... I'm tired of wasting money that I don't have. I'm also not sure if I want to fish any more in Washington. I think I have had all I can take of disappointment.
Venting Complete.
Thanks
Post by: snowpack on July 30, 2013, 10:31:28 PM
Post by: Fishnclifff on July 30, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
Humpies are here.
I will be up in about 3 weeks. If ya wanna come hang out and catch fish with us, be glad to have ya.
Post by: bearpaw on July 30, 2013, 10:35:35 PM
This forum has pretty awesome members, I'll be amazed if you don't get offers of help.
Post by: Smossy on July 30, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
Being successful is all about knowledge and finesse. If you don't get help here on the forum or have any friends who can help you learn the finer points then consider hiring a fishing guide for a day, the right guide will enjoy teaching you. How much have you wasted on gas and expenses, a guide is probably a cheap investment? :tup:
This forum has pretty awesome members, I'll be amazed if you don't get offers of help.
:yeah:
Also, Don't be afraid to ask questions, even if you think they're border line stupid..
A closed mouth don't get fed, I know first hand about that one.
I've only been on here since January and I can say in that short period of time of ranting, asking questions, bugging people, and meeting others. I've learned probably 300% more in these topics then I knew before. "Hunting and Fishing".
Be open to ideas's and criticism.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 30, 2013, 11:05:08 PM
Don't quit! Anyone can catch a Humpie!
If you want a challenge, try Fly fishing!
-Steve
Post by: huntnnw on July 30, 2013, 11:44:39 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 30, 2013, 11:47:28 PM
Post by: csaaphill on July 30, 2013, 11:59:28 PM
I dont even wanna hear whining about hunting...put on the boots and get after it! Your new to it even more so! its all about experience in the woods and learning. I am still learning new stuff to this day and I have been hard at it for 25 years and will NEVER give up hunting EVER! Your above statement tells me your not really into it..Id never make that statement ever. There is some great hunting in this state to be had.:yeah:
My bother inlaw hailes from IDaho so is spoiled I guess, all he does is complain about Washington, but doesn't mean we dont' have good fishing and hunting. If you can afford it try around the Spokane area I hear they have tons of Whitetail.
Might have to settle for a doe, but meat is meat.
Fishing wise I can relate, but not for the same reasons just haven't been able to go as much.
Post by: Smossy on July 31, 2013, 12:11:06 AM
I dont even wanna hear whining about hunting...put on the boots and get after it! Your new to it even more so! its all about experience in the woods and learning. I am still learning new stuff to this day and I have been hard at it for 25 years and will NEVER give up hunting EVER! Your above statement tells me your not really into it..Id never make that statement ever. There is some great hunting in this state to be had.Some of the best opportunities Id say....
Post by: RadSav on July 31, 2013, 01:29:46 AM
Two or three anchor sets later we reached my favorite hole on the entire river. This time before casting we both stood up and we read the water together. There were two flat boulders about 10 yards above a fast ripple. Shallow pea gravel on the far side and deeper water and 6-8" rocks and gravel on the near side. He made a perfect cast, great tension on line, perfect weight selection and then momentary slack line...tip up...Bam! Fish On! For about 30 seconds :'(
After we lost that fish he looks at me with a big grin on his face. This was not the expression I was expecting for losing his first hookup ever. He pats me on the back, gives me a brief one arm man hug and says, "Do you realize how many fish I have missed over the past five years and never knew it? I get it now. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you!" We put five more fish in the boat that day on drift gear and a couple more off plugs. We talked about how to approach each set, but I never made another cast the whole day. He did it all himself.
These days we get together for lunch occasionally and I listen to him talk about pounding steel all over the northwest and Canada. He has even taught me a thing or two about targeting big fish and yarn presentations. There is no doubt he has become a world class steelheader. And all it took was a few hours in a boat with a guide willing to teach and help him understand.
Sometimes hiring a guide isn't so much about getting away for the boss or the amount of fish you catch. Sometimes it's about how much knowledge you can absorb and how many questions you can get answered. Most of your quality guides are more than happy to lend a hand in your education of the sport, the animal, the fish, the water and where to best concentrate your efforts. Sometimes the fee for a guide can be difficult to swallow on a limited budget. However, sometimes it's worth every penny.
I hope you don't give up. If you keep after it there will come a time you can't believe you ever had difficulty getting the feel for it. There will be days when every faulty cast seems to hook fish, every limp line eventually goes straight and every clearcut seems to have a bedded bull in it. On those days all the waiting will be worth it! Just keep at it and learn from your mistakes.
Post by: Smossy on July 31, 2013, 01:37:16 AM
One of the best steelheaders I know booked a trip with me on the Siletz back in the mid eighties. He booked the trip because he had been trying to catch a steelhead the five previous years without a single hookup. It was a foggy cold December morning river just off color and so still you could hear the water drip from the oars as I would rest before hitting the next set...perfect day for fish! On our first anchor I took out a drift rig and bounced a small peach Spin-n-glo through a rock pile. Bam! Fish On! Handed the pole off to the client and be landed the chrome without releasing the anchor. After the fish was landed I walked him through how I had read the water and what the take down felt like. Next anchor set same gear same result! Again I walked him through the steps and what it felt like.
Two or three anchor sets later we reached my favorite hole on the entire river. This time before casting we both stood up and we read the water together. There were two flat boulders about 10 yards above a fast ripple. Shallow pea gravel on the far side and deeper water and 6-8" rocks and gravel on the near side. He made a perfect cast, great tension on line, perfect weight selection and then momentary slack line...tip up...Bam! Fish On! For about 30 seconds :'(
After we lost that fish he looks at me with a big grin on his face. This was not the expression I was expecting for losing his first hookup ever. He pats me on the back, gives me a brief one arm man hug and says, "Do you realize how many fish I have missed over the past five years and never knew it? I get it now. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you!" We put five more fish in the boat that day on drift gear and a couple more off plugs. We talked about how to approach each set, but I never made another cast the whole day. He did it all himself.
These days we get together for lunch occasionally and I listen to him talk about pounding steel all over the northwest and Canada. He has even taught me a thing or two about targeting big fish and yarn presentations. There is no doubt he has become a world class steelheader. And all it took was a few hours in a boat with a guide willing to teach and help him understand.
Sometimes hiring a guide isn't so much about getting away for the boss or the amount of fish you catch. Sometimes it's about how much knowledge you can absorb and how many questions you can get answered. Most of your quality guides are more than happy to lend a hand in your education of the sport, the animal, the fish, the water and where to best concentrate your efforts. Sometimes the fee for a guide can be difficult to swallow on a limited budget. However, sometimes it's worth every penny.
I hope you don't give up. If you keep after it there will come a time you can't believe you ever had difficulty getting the feel for it. There will be days when every faulty cast seems to hook fish, every limp line eventually goes straight and every clearcut seems to have a bedded bull in it. On those days all the waiting will be worth it! Just keep at it and learn from your mistakes.
:rolleyes:
Post by: hunt_fish on July 31, 2013, 06:17:14 AM
I am getting to where I don't enjoy fishing at all. Correction... I don't enjoy doing this anymore. I have been in Washington for 3 years, moved up with the Navy, and have been trying my hand at hunting and fishing. To date, I have caught a handful of trout from a stocked lake. No Flounder, No Pile Perch, Goodness knows No Salmon... nothing.
I read folks saying they catch tons of flounder and pile perch... as though the things are super common. I cannot catch a single one. I have quit taking my kids because it became so hard trying to be positive and encouraging to them when inside I "know" that no matter what we do, we aren't going to catch anything.
At this point, I do not think I am going to buy a hunting license... I'm tired of wasting money that I don't have. I'm also not sure if I want to fish any more in Washington. I think I have had all I can take of disappointment.
Venting Complete.
Thanks
If you're stuck on the bank and you're trying to fish for salmon, go to point no point early in the morning or Hoodsport for right now. Later in late October the Chum will show up, go to Chico Creek, Hood Canal, John's Creek, Minter Creek for them. Right now for trout I wouldn't even mess with any of the lakes right now if you're on the bank, I'd head for the rivers around the Hood Canal area, you should be able to pick up trout, my friend has picked up some nice sized cutthroat over there the past few weeks. If you like eating squid, go to Waterman's Pier in Port Orchard or the Illahee dock during the night. Like someone else said, if you do the research, you'll find plenty of info on where to fish, what to use to fish and all that stuff. If you have a boat, you have plenty of options and should be picking up at the very least flounder out in the saltwater.
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 31, 2013, 06:38:20 AM
Hunting and fishing can be humbling. If you like it, learn it, study it and practice what you learn. Your bound to get lucky.
I talk to guys that have the same luck fishing every year. Most of the time it is gear being used, location they are fishing or how they are fishing the water. Move around, watch others, copy repeat successes or make your own gear. Fresh baits are always a plus.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 31, 2013, 07:27:19 AM
I concentrae on the Manchester area, Southworth, and Vashon areas for Kings but you need a boat and lots of experience.
It has really tapered off in the last 8 years though. The Kings just arnt there like they used to be. Nothing is. Im to the point were Ive given up on South sound fishing because it was so good years ago. My very experienced bud fishes all week and weekends and still hasent landed a nice mature King. He did get a 20 or so plus pounder to the boat sunday to lose it at the net in Port Orchard.
Nov will have a good Chum run at chico. Easy to catch hard fighting salmon.
You really dont want to eat flounder from the area. Pile Perch are around but thinning out over the years.
There is a run of Kings comming back right now to Gorst creek. But unless you have patience and a boat with down riggers there not easy. We have that dialed. Me and my buddy have taken 6th and 1st place in the St clair derby in the last 4 years though. But I have been doing this my whole life.
You can fish for them in Gorst in the mud flats but its a crappy snag fest behind a shady strip club. Lol
Like others have said, Point No Point from the beach is going to heat up, as is Hoodsport. But Salmon fishing is a very competitive sport at these areas and its schoulder to schoulder.
Learning to catch Salmon and Steelhead in rivers is a long learning curve unless you can fish with experienced guys.
If you want to catch cleaner flounder and such you might try the manchester boat launch area. From the beach or docks. Manchester state park has some neat areas too if you follow that trails out to the rocks. I grew up fishing there.
For Plie Perch Id try the Anapolis pier, Watermans dock on Beach drive. Which is on your way to Manchester! Flounder should be there too!
Have you tried the Indianola dock?
Its easy to get fustrated with fishing here anymore. I have been at it for almost 40 years now. Ive guided and fished the West coast from AK, Queen Charrolets, Rivers Inlet, Vancouver Island, to Oregon coastal bays.
You have to work at it and travel now to be really succesful. Following the circut and productive fisheries.
Take the kids to Manchester, great beach and docks. Even if there not catching they will have fun!
Post by: Smokepole on July 31, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
When we go hunting and fishing, we don't require much. It's all about the experience, comradery, and the adventures of being in the great outdoors. We love living in the Pacific Northwest because it has so much to offer, from ocean beaches, towering mountains, and dry lands. All the fish in the sea can't stack up to that.
We consider catching fish or harvesting an animal to be a bonus.
Post by: lostbackpacker on July 31, 2013, 09:44:33 AM
the best option is to go with a mentor, someone who knows the lay of the land. Or hire a guide.
Post by: Doc Sauce on July 31, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
I think I have done well to stick to it with as much commitment as I have for 3 years without anything to show for it. I have friends from work and Church who catch fish and fill hunting tags and I easily spend 2 to 3 times the amount of time they do in the woods or by the water. The thing that separates me from them... they have access to private land for hunting and they all have boats. I have been out with them before, but we did not catch anything then. Their attitude is a good one, "oh well, better luck next time." The downfall is that "next time" they go out, I usually have to work.
I am Acitve Navy and work Ridiculous hours. Due to transferring, deployments, and poor investments years ago, I am in a lot more debt than I am comfortable with. I see my kids for a couple hours each week with the number of hours I devote to work, odd jobs to cut my debt, and then my hunting and fishing. I look at the investment of time and money into this "sport" and find that the payoff is dismal. My kids are making the sacrifice.
I grew up in south Louisiana and coastal North Carolina ( a little bit in Tennessee too, but did no hunting or fishing there). I was a very accomplished fisherman in those states. Flat black water, swamps, warm lakes and ponds, slow moving brackish water and really protected coastal areas like the inner bays behind the outer banks and the intercoastal water way. I fished from a canoe, a kayak, the beach, and wading out in the mud... could load an ice chest with bass, chinquapin, blue gill, and perch. Not a fan of catfish.
I have been to Point No Point and Salisbury several times. I have counted more than 70 fisherman coming and going while I was standing on the beach, and I have seen or heard of only about 6 to 8 Salmon going home with somebody. That is less than 10 percent success. I stood out at Salisbury just watching and talking... 38 people, 4 hours, 3 fish... Most all of them were throwing the same stuff. That makes for an average of 50.6 hours per fish. My kids were there with me. We couldn't get on line because my kids (8 and 6) cast side arm and not overhead... I have started teaching them to cast overhead now since I see that that is the name of the game with combat fishing.
I read the tide tables, gamefishing.com, the threads on here. I talk with the folks fishing on the pier or the beach around me, I talk to the employees at Wholesale Sports (or Sportsmans Warehouse, or whatever it is called now). I watch videos from fishing guides and regular folks to see what they are doing. I read articles from biologists and watch videos from universities about Salmon and Flounder behavior...
Bearpaw is dead on accurate when he says that, compared to the money and time invested to learn it yourself, a good guide is a cheap option. If I wasn't so dadgum broke now, I would do it. I should have done it before. I have considered trying to make a deal with somebody who actually catch fish to let me sit in the boat... I'll even leave all my stuff at home and not fish just for chance to watch an accomplished person bring something in.
I haven't tried the Manchester area. I'll give that a go. I'll also start planning these things WITH my kids and instead of making it a fishing trip and bring our lunches, make it a picnic at the beach/park and bring the fishing rods.
I grew up really poor in south Louisiana (one of the reasons I joined the Navy) and my family was able to afford groceries because we bought very little meat. We ate LOTS of fish. I had thought that, with a couple years invested in learning the ropes out here, that I would at least be able to supplement my groceries... Not so.
One last thing... for those who feel as though Washington is the pinnacle of outdoor hunting and fishing, how much time have you honestly spent living in and hunting/fishing outside of this area?
Wildmanoutdoors... thanks so much for your post. I watch folks in boats not catching anything either. After not catching, and not seeing anybody else be succesfull, I get the feeling that the fishing really isn't all that good unless you have a loaded boat... What you said in your post about the south sound is what I have been observing. I'll absolutely try where you say regarding Manchester.
O... and I would gladly settle for a doe... if I could get drawn for one!
To those who are giving advice, thanks. It really is hard for me to spend my time away from my family and spend money that has run short for something that is not building my family (taking me away from my kids) and not putting food on my table. Thanks again y'all.
DS
Post by: LndShrk on July 31, 2013, 11:20:46 AM
Wow... What a range of responses. From "your not into it" to really good stuff.
I think I have done well to stick to it with as much commitment as I have for 3 years without anything to show for it. I have friends from work and Church who catch fish and fill hunting tags and I easily spend 2 to 3 times the amount of time they do in the woods or by the water. The thing that separates me from them... they have access to private land for hunting and they all have boats. I have been out with them before, but we did not catch anything then. Their attitude is a good one, "oh well, better luck next time." The downfall is that "next time" they go out, I usually have to work.
I am Acitve Navy and work Ridiculous hours. Due to transferring, deployments, and poor investments years ago, I am in a lot more debt than I am comfortable with. I see my kids for a couple hours each week with the number of hours I devote to work, odd jobs to cut my debt, and then my hunting and fishing. I look at the investment of time and money into this "sport" and find that the payoff is dismal. My kids are making the sacrifice.
I grew up in south Louisiana and coastal North Carolina ( a little bit in Tennessee too, but did no hunting or fishing there). I was a very accomplished fisherman in those states. Flat black water, swamps, warm lakes and ponds, slow moving brackish water and really protected coastal areas like the inner bays behind the outer banks and the intercoastal water way. I fished from a canoe, a kayak, the beach, and wading out in the mud... could load an ice chest with bass, chinquapin, blue gill, and perch. Not a fan of catfish.
I have been to Point No Point and Salisbury several times. I have counted more than 70 fisherman coming and going while I was standing on the beach, and I have seen or heard of only about 6 to 8 Salmon going home with somebody. That is less than 10 percent success. I stood out at Salisbury just watching and talking... 38 people, 4 hours, 3 fish... Most all of them were throwing the same stuff. That makes for an average of 50.6 hours per fish. My kids were there with me. We couldn't get on line because my kids (8 and 6) cast side arm and not overhead... I have started teaching them to cast overhead now since I see that that is the name of the game with combat fishing.
I read the tide tables, gamefishing.com, the threads on here. I talk with the folks fishing on the pier or the beach around me, I talk to the employees at Wholesale Sports (or Sportsmans Warehouse, or whatever it is called now). I watch videos from fishing guides and regular folks to see what they are doing. I read articles from biologists and watch videos from universities about Salmon and Flounder behavior...
Bearpaw is dead on accurate when he says that, compared to the money and time invested to learn it yourself, a good guide is a cheap option. If I wasn't so dadgum broke now, I would do it. I should have done it before. I have considered trying to make a deal with somebody who actually catch fish to let me sit in the boat... I'll even leave all my stuff at home and not fish just for chance to watch an accomplished person bring something in.
I haven't tried the Manchester area. I'll give that a go. I'll also start planning these things WITH my kids and instead of making it a fishing trip and bring our lunches, make it a picnic at the beach/park and bring the fishing rods.
I grew up really poor in south Louisiana (one of the reasons I joined the Navy) and my family was able to afford groceries because we bought very little meat. We ate LOTS of fish. I had thought that, with a couple years invested in learning the ropes out here, that I would at least be able to supplement my groceries... Not so.
One last thing... for those who feel as though Washington is the pinnacle of outdoor hunting and fishing, how much time have you honestly spent living in and hunting/fishing outside of this area?
Wildmanoutdoors... thanks so much for your post. I watch folks in boats not catching anything either. After not catching, and not seeing anybody else be succesfull, I get the feeling that the fishing really isn't all that good unless you have a loaded boat... What you said in your post about the south sound is what I have been observing. I'll absolutely try where you say regarding Manchester.
O... and I would gladly settle for a doe... if I could get drawn for one!
To those who are giving advice, thanks. It really is hard for me to spend my time away from my family and spend money that has run short for something that is not building my family (taking me away from my kids) and not putting food on my table. Thanks again y'all.
DS
If you are fishing for subsistence then you will be disappointed. It takes time and investment to fish the sound. I spend a bit of time on the water and will put fish in my freezers (Sometimes I even share with Jackalope since he never wants to go fishing) but It is certain that no matter how many fish I catch the expenses will always outweigh the food savings (One exception might be Halibut that stuff is spendy in the store).
If you are looking for time to spend with the kids in the outdoors on a limited budget then I would highly suggest you pick a target and gear up for that specifically and hone your skills before jumping around and trying everything. This is a Humpy year and they will be in full force in the sound rivers in a matter of Days/Weeks. They are an easy target plentiful and can be had on a budget for sure (Hint Jigs are cheaper than buzz bombs). They are not the best for freezer and BBQ but smoked they are great. Following and during the humpy run silvers (Coho) will also be running similar gear can be used for both targets.
Post by: Holg3107 on July 31, 2013, 11:21:00 AM
Fishing:
Catching salmon from the beach is extremely difficult especially for a new salmon angler. Most of the guys that I know who are successful from the beach are veterans who have put more time on the water than I can count. That being said this is a humpy year and is your best opportunity to catch a salmon from the bank. Make a day trip to the Puyallup, get in line, relax as much as possible, join the combat fishing fun and get that salmon stink off your back. It gets hot and heavy in about two weeks through mid-late September.
There are quite a few local fresh water lakes around Bremerton most all of which have largmouth bass in them. Put on a weightless 6" senko in watermelon with red flake and start working any structure you have casting access to. You will catch a bass. Save up a few hundred bucks and buy a kayak or float tube so that you can really fish some of the smaller lakes in the area. A kayak can also get you out on the sound with some experience which opens up crabbing as well as salmon/lingcod fishing. No need for a $15,000 boat when you can do it in a $300 kayak.
Hunting:
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O... and I would gladly settle for a doe... if I could get drawn for one!Stop with the negativity and the sob story. You have 3 weeks to find a buck in the areas near you, assuming you are hunting with a rifle. That should be more than enough time to locate a spike. If you are hunting archery then you just need to find a deer and have a full month early then a few weeks again in November. You are in the military, knock on a few doors and you may be surprised who will give you access, or just hunt the public land in 621 or 633 (there is plenty of it). If hunting to you starts the day the season starts then I wouldn't have a whole lot of expectations. Do some scouting, take the kids on some hikes where you want to hunt and learn the area.
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One last thing... for those who feel as though Washington is the pinnacle of outdoor hunting and fishing, how much time have you honestly spent living in and hunting/fishing outside of this area?Comments like this aren't going to get you anywhere on here. Many of the people who have commented hunt multiple states a year and have ample knowledge that can help you out but that isn't going to happen with the way you are going about this. You won't hear anyone on here say that Washington is the pinnacle of hunting in the US... It's not, you have to bust your butt and work for your animal here. You don't hunt and fish here because it's cheaper than going to the store, it's not. You hunt and fish here because you love to hunt, fish and spend time outdoors, catching/harvesting is nothing more than a bonus. Once I kill an elk or deer all that means is that my season/day is over and its time for the work to begin.
on that note welcome to the west and good luck.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on July 31, 2013, 11:26:14 AM
Keep at it man, most guys don't learn 100% on their own, someone gives them tips and advice and usually shows them the ropes.
Post by: lostbackpacker on July 31, 2013, 11:29:59 AM
I am getting to where I don't enjoy fishing at all. Correction... I don't enjoy doing this anymore. I have been in Washington for 3 years, moved up with the Navy, and have been trying my hand at hunting and fishing. To date, I have caught a handful of trout from a stocked lake. No Flounder, No Pile Perch, Goodness knows No Salmon... nothing.
I read folks saying they catch tons of flounder and pile perch... as though the things are super common. I cannot catch a single one. I have quit taking my kids because it became so hard trying to be positive and encouraging to them when inside I "know" that no matter what we do, we aren't going to catch anything.
At this point, I do not think I am going to buy a hunting license... I'm tired of wasting money that I don't have. I'm also not sure if I want to fish any more in Washington. I think I have had all I can take of disappointment.
Venting Complete.
Thanks
You're welcome to come out with me anytime.
Post by: mrmoskillz on July 31, 2013, 11:36:06 AM
Post by: snowpack on July 31, 2013, 11:38:41 AM
How far are you willing to travel for stuff? and what kind of animal/fish is at the top of the death list?
And I've hunted fished all over and fishingwise Washington is by far the most finicky of all to get all the stars in alignment to get anything. Huntingwise it is probably in the middle of places I've been.
Post by: Skillet on July 31, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
Be resourceful. Get a cheapo kayak or canoe or something. Go drop pots for crab and catch flounder while you're waiting. Yes, flounder are that easy to catch if you can drift over them with a bit of bait. Watch those kids smile when you pull that trap up, or when they reel in that fish. That is worth any amount of effort it takes to make it happen. Forget trying to get on the kings right now - get back to basics and keep those kids' interest in joining dad for an outing up. :twocents:
Good luck to you- :tup:
Post by: hunt_fish on July 31, 2013, 11:53:06 AM
If you're fishing Point No Point, from my experience, if you aren't in the viscinity of the actual point, you aren't going to catch salmon. Whenever my dad and me went, that was the only time we'd catch them
Post by: RadSav on July 31, 2013, 11:55:05 AM
Isn't flipping rocks on the shore to see what's under there when the fish aren't cooperative interesting? I still love doing that...
Rock The Hole!
Back in the days when we could catch sea run cuts in the upper Siletz that was a regular practice to get a mid day bite going. Worked some serious magic with regularity :tup: I've seen locals at the Vedder do it for Tyees too. Plus there is something therapeutic about it on a slow afternoon ;)
Similar to dragging anchor above a good steelhead hole mid day with clear water. Stir it up / get 'em excited.
Post by: Doc Sauce on July 31, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
I'm in the process of adjusting my attitude and tactics.
I'm not so worked up over hunting because I wasn't really good at that before and I know I am learning it still. I am a little worked up about fishing because I was good at it before, and I expect to be good at it still... not so.
I'll send a PM to those of you who have made offers to help.
Thanks a lot...
I don't mean to sound as negative as I come across. Frustration does that. Had a good night sleep, had a good run this morning, got some real good replys to this... I'm making plans for taking the kids out this weekend. Might make a picnic and flip some rocks on the beach.
I do appreciate the replies.
Post by: Doc Sauce on July 31, 2013, 12:08:24 PM
I do have a canoe and I have fished out of it. The guy I predominately go fishing with seems to be afraid of fishing out of it. . He's says the canoe is "too tippy" (17 footer with an 850 pound payload) and seems to think I need to put downriggers on it... LOL
Post by: hntrspud on July 31, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
Post by: Alchase on July 31, 2013, 01:21:25 PM
if you are staring at the light house with your back to the water, walk straight east out in the water (wear waders, the water is cold). There is a sand bar that extends a ways out that has a steep drop off. Look at the water, the current will tell you where it is. You will see a rip in the water where it gets shallow. Use a white/pink Buzz Bomb 3" or 4", or a Kastmaster Blue/chrome (1oz) and cast out over the drop off. This area can be one of the most productive areas from the shore. Especially for Silvers.
I have caught salmon from the Ilahee dock as well.
Most there seem to be local Blackmouth.
At the base of the Warren Ave Bridge, on the Bremerton side, there is a fishing pier. Rig up a drop sinker (3/4 oz - 1 /12 oz depending on current, it flows through at a good 7 knots) with a tri-swivel with your bait about 2 feet above the drop weight on a 2 ft leader. Use either clam necks or pileworms if you can get them. Cast up current and let your weight bounce a little. That are is loaded with Pile Perch.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on July 31, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
You absolutely wont sustain your family here. So let that pressure off your back and take in the outdoors and luck will find you!
10% of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish. Especially with Salmon.
Shoot me your number in a PM. Im busy this weekend but next weekend Ill get you out for Salmon and show you what it takes. You will have fun and I can teach you a ton while we are fishing. I only target tides as thats when fish bite. So expect only a couple hours, but it could be a productive couple hours of Salmon fishing! ;) and you will be home for B fast. Lol. If you want to bring the kids make sure they have punch cards for salmon as well yourself. And the kids need life jackets as I dont have any for younguns.
Friday and Sat are extremely good tides in the AM. Id expect you at the Manchester launch at 530 sharp.
You pick the day but Friday is good as its closer to low light.
Send me a PM if interested. And thanks a TON for your service!!! :tup:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 01, 2013, 12:31:27 PM
There have also been other experienced fishers posting in this forum for 'I have an open seat on the boat this weekend'.. I know your work schedule sucks, but you need to keep in touch with these guys that'll offer such a treat. Some time.. The schedule will work. And that could almost be as good as booking with a guide. A little gas thrown their way, or you bring lunch goes a long way.
-Steve
Oh, and hunting Whitetail back home is not the same as hunting Blacktail here. ;)
Post by: Doc Sauce on August 01, 2013, 01:13:09 PM
I should have swallowed my pride a while back and just asked for help.
Thanks for the advice and tips. I talked with my oldest 2 yesterday and they both said they enjoy fishing. One of them asked if we could go after supper... Having read what has been written on this thread, I will focus on "relaxing" and "enjoying the moment" and spend time with my kids instead of putting so much pressure on trying to actually catch a fish. My kids seem to genuinely enjoy just standing by the water with me. Amazing. I wouldn't have had such a conversation with them if some of you had held your tounges. Thanks for spurring me into that direction.
I'll be fishing in a couple days and again next weekend.
Thanks again y'all.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 01, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
-Steve
Post by: RadSav on August 01, 2013, 02:25:12 PM
I have a great deal of respect for my father. Those days on the river go a long way as to why. Those times spent together went a long way to shaping who I am today and the character I wish to become. Now after a life of making a comfortable living in the fishing and hunting industries my desires are not so much traveling the world fishing far away lands or making a second or third fortune. My thoughts float back to those days with my father and I would sacrifice a lot of what I've accomplished to have a few more memories of those days spent fishing with him.
It does not surprise me at all that your kids enjoy fishing even if unsuccessful. I'm sure any day spent with dad is a successful and enjoyable day. I sure wish I had waited a few years before starting to work. As I am sure that would have given more time with my father...whether we had caught fish or not!
Post by: snowpack on August 01, 2013, 05:20:12 PM