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Title: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: Goldeneye on August 08, 2013, 04:57:57 PM
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2013/08/08/guns-and-coffee-bearing-arms-to-starbucks/ (http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2013/08/08/guns-and-coffee-bearing-arms-to-starbucks/)


Gun owners across America plan to on Friday go armed to Starbucks outlets when getting their morning (noon and evening) coffee, as part of an “I Love Guns and Coffee” campaign, and a show of appreciation to the coffee giant for letting customers pack heat when it accords with state law.

“It’s a grassroots effort organized on Facebook,” said Jim Childers of Whidbey Arms, who laments that his his South Whidbey store is 40 miles from the nearest Starbucks outlet.

Starbucks has refused a bid by the Brady Campaign, the nationwide advocacy group supporting handgun control, that customers go unarmed to get their coffee. The “Starbucks Appreciation Day” is the second such event: The first was a “Gun Owners Support Starbucks Day” last February.

“This is just to show when you carry, you’re not only expressing your rights, but to show good guys carry,” Ed Levine, head of a gun rights group in Northern Virginia, told the Washington Post.

Childers said he hopes for a demonstration of strength from Washington to Washington.

“All that’s going on is that gun owners will be openly carrying guns, and flocking to Starbucks and thanking them for following local, state and gun laws,” he said. “It is up to individual people to show up and express their opinions.  This is a rally not driven by any national organization.”

“In my opinion, it is a crime — and a human rights violation — to forbid this,” he added. ”You are taking away an individual’s ability to protect himself or herself.”

Childers sells “I Love Guns and Coffee” vinyl stickers, and embroidered patches, showing the iconic Starbucks figure with a pistol in both hands.  He also markets coffee mugs and T-shirts carrying the message. Starbucks does not endorse or promote his “parody products.”

Twelve states across the country have unrestricted “open carry” laws, and 16 others impose few restrictions. Washington is in the category of “mostly-carry” states with restrictions in a few such areas like packing heat on school grounds.

The Rev. Sandy Brown, senior minister at the Seattle First United Methodist Church, is an organizer of the Initiative 594 campaign that would require criminal background checks on guns purchased at firearms shows.  Not surprisingly, Brown has a different take on the Starbucks controversy.

“I support the Moms Demand Action (for Gun Sense in America) effort to convince Starbucks to declare itself gun free,” said Brown. ”I’m proud of Starbucks as a homegrown Seattle company, but its priorities are backwards in allowing guns in all its stores.”

Other firms are “more enlightened,” added Brown. “I think Seattle expects more from Starbucks than its fearful and timid stand.”

In Connecticut, scene of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre last December — 20 first graders and six adults were killed — the Newtown Action Alliance has asked gun owners to take Starbucks Appreciation Day away from Newtown.

“Our community is still healing and we find it reprehensible that they are picking Newtown to rally,” the alliance said.  “It is disturbing to think that tomorrow, you and your children may be sitting in Starbucks when people carrying guns walk through the door.”
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: dmv9 on August 08, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
I won't be carrying but I definitely will be spending money there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: elk247 on August 08, 2013, 05:19:04 PM
I won't spend a dime there. Howard shultz  :pee: they will play both sides of the fence for a buck. Just wait until they get enough pressure and watch them flop. Why does Newtown have to be brought up? If there was just one gun owner present during the newtown attack things might of ended very differently.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 08, 2013, 05:26:24 PM
90% of the time when I go to Starbucks I have my gun.  I guess I will go to Starbucks tomorrow.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: Goldeneye on August 08, 2013, 05:36:25 PM
I won't spend a dime there. Howard shultz  :pee: they will play both sides of the fence for a buck. Just wait until they get enough pressure and watch them flop. Why does Newtown have to be brought up? If there was just one gun owner present during the newtown attack things might of ended very differently.  :twocents:

No argument from me on what you said.  I never have like Howard Schultz either.  I just saw the article and thought I would share it since it is a pro carry subject.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: Eli346 on August 08, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
 I boycotted Starbuck's the day that idiot sold the Sonics knowing all to well that they were leaving town. The previous owner of the Sonics, Barry Ackerly, sold them to Shultz for a smaller price than he could have gotten elsewhere because Shultz 'assured' him they would stay in Seattle. What a thief and liar! What's funny about my point of view is that I can't stand pro basketball and never have and also my daughter was a manager of a Starbuck's store when this all went down. It's all about morals and the principle of the thing to me. I do hope we get a team back someday as there are a lot of people who love the game in the area; including a lot of my friends. I don't them back until David Stern is out of the driver's seat. I don't want him getting any accolades when the Sonics come home. I still think he's sharing a bottle of Vaseline with Clay Bennett!
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 09, 2013, 08:46:53 AM
Never did like the sonics because they sucked. Go Celtics.

I just picked up my quad latte with Precious strapped on and my I Luv Guns & Coffee t-shirt. Any company who will stand up publicly and support the 2nd Amendment is getting my business.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 09, 2013, 08:51:12 AM
I'll stop by this afternoon.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: Exechobo on August 09, 2013, 08:57:05 AM
Thanks for the reminder, don't like the coffee anymore, but will stop for an iced tea. Their position is, in my view, the right one. Managers of retail stores should not be put in the position of enforcing rules that fly in the face of the law.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 09, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
Normally I would not go to Sixbucks, but I will today.
Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
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Title: Re: Friday is go armed to Starbucks day
Post by: Dave Workman on August 09, 2013, 02:22:47 PM
For Washington OC crowd, Saturday is coffee day
 
Washington State Open Carry activist Jim Beal is having an interesting day regarding the so-called “Starbucks Appreciation Day” promoted by gun rights advocates, including some in Newtown, Conn., where gun control proponents have been proclaiming moral outrage that armed citizens might have coffee in the same town where the Sandy Hook tragedy occurred less than eight months ago.
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/for-washington-oc-crowd-saturday-is-coffee-day (http://www.examiner.com/article/for-washington-oc-crowd-saturday-is-coffee-day)
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