Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Sundance on August 15, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
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thanks
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$5.00/lb dressed weight
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It would depend on the disposable income available. If I were Warren Buffet or Bill Gates, I doubt I would even blink at $100K for a blacktail.
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If I had the money for that, I would rather buy my own land to hunt on, where I could establish quality food plots, put up tree stands, blinds, and trail cameras.
If I was going to pay for guided hunts, it would likely be for elk, mule deer, and moose in other states.
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I wouldn't pay anything. I have every opportunity in the world to get a quality blacktail in my neighborhood on my own, but I choose to be lazy and not put the work into it. So on that note, I would feel shameful of myself if I paid someone to find me a great blacktail when I could have done it myself... Did I just expose myself as a really lame hunter or what? :chuckle:
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If I had the money for that, I would rather buy my own land to hunt on, where I could establish quality food plots, put up tree stands, blinds, and trail cameras.
If I was going to pay for guided hunts, it would likely be for elk, mule deer, and moose in other states.
:yeah: :yeah: enough said right there.... :tup:
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idk if it makes a differance to you but cali blacktail and washington blacktail are differant critters from each other, those cali blackies have taken on the traits of a mule deer, i might be over bearing here but man there aint nothin like huntn the washington gray ghost, i have killed some damn nice blackies as have alot of my family and not one of us have got a book blackie, and my dad has killed some big-uns to say the least..... find one in washington sundance it will mean alot more to ya :tup:
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$5.00/lb dressed weight
:yeah: Horns look cool, but Im all about pounds of meat....free range wild venison, I would pay 5-10 bucks a pound, Im probably spending $5 a pound in gas, tags, discover pass, and all the bs.....
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Hahahaha ......... Seriously?
I wouldn't pay for a guide or special access for any animal.
If you pay someone for your success, whose success is it really? Yours or theirs?
I'd rather "spend" the time learning from my mistakes. In that area, I've payed a lot of time over the years.
I do like Bobcat's answer tho.
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Trophy blacktail can't be bought.. they can only be earned :twocents:
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I was going to get a guide for elk, because this is my first season but decided to just do it myself. When hunting for subsistence put in the time and effort you will eventually find the animals.
If it was trophy hunting, to be honest i have decided that paying someone is not worth the effort since they can't guarantee a quality animal, and at that point if they can is it really hunting ? it's more hey i shot this big a$$ animal , whoop te doooo :dunno:
it's killing me how close opening day is, and all I can do is just focus on hunting.
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Trophy blacktail can't be bought.. they can only be earned :twocents:
Well said Grasshopper :bow:
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Trophy blacktail can't be bought.. they can only be earned :twocents:
:yeah:
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I don't want to speak for everyone, but maybe most guys who live amongst blacktail aren't willing to pay for a trophy "local" deer. That just seems weird to me. I could see maybe someone from NY, Australia, etc... :dunno:
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I personally would not, however, I know my dad would pay over $2500 for a 125" or bigger blacktail, probably not for a CA one though. He won't fork out the $450 for one of our island dinks, even though I can guarantee him an animal. :chuckle:
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I don't really understand the question. ???
How do buy a B&C buck? High fence hunt or what? Are there guides out there that can guarantee a book BT?
I could see maybe going on an out of state hunt to a unit where book BT's are likely. But I'd just be paying for the chance to get one........I'd be paying out of state license fees for the opportunity to hunt. Whether or not I got a B&C buck would depend on how much time I spend scouting and how lucky I get........(I would not pay for a guide).
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Makes no sense. Do you work for a Timber Company trying to figure out how much they can get for trophy hunting?
To me if you pay for a trophy buck then it is worth exactly what you pay for it. Do your homework, scout, and hunt hard and it is priceless. Personalty I am never impressed with a big buck or bull that someone paid big bucks to hunt. Show me a decent low scoring bull with a story of a hard hunt, learning the hard way, and putting it all together and I am impressed.
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Too bad in Canada we have no option as American citizens. No guide/No hunt >:( But I'm not going to feel my Canadian animals are any less worthy of praise and respect just because the government forced me to work with a guide.
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If you spend enough time in the woods and have at least some hunting smarts and patience, you'll find a 125" BC Blacktail one day and you can claim all the glory. I would only want a guide for dangerous game.
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I would pay exactly what I pay now, the cost of my license and tags. I'm sure it would be cool to get a record book buck, but I feel like a trophy could be any size, it just depends on the effort you had to put in or who you were with when you got it. To me, a quality buck involves alot more than what it scores on paper. My first deer was when I was 17, a little 2x3, but I was with Jackmaster, his brother, and 2 other good friends, and it was cool because they were all there with me, and that's something you always remember. Just my :twocents:
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The neighbor kid shoots a doe or my attorney shoots a 400 bull on the San Carlos make little difference to me. If they are enjoying themselves in the sport I'm happy for them!
Record books are good for nothing more than a measuring system in my mind. Shoot a book buck DIY or with a guide why in the world would I care? Not my animal so it's no business of mine. I've shot book bucks with a guide and I've taken book bucks on my own and I've been pleased with all of them or I wouldn't have taken the shot. My favorite blacktail buck harvest was a two point that no longer meets book requirements. If you are happy bowhunting I'm happy for you. Beyond that I'll worry about myself and let others worry about whatever it is that other people worry about.
I think your BIL will have a great time. I hope he shoots straight and gets everything he's hoping for!
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If I had the money for that, I would rather buy my own land to hunt on, where I could establish quality food plots, put up tree stands, blinds, and trail cameras.
If I was going to pay for guided hunts, it would likely be for elk, mule deer, and moose in other states.
:yeah:
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Like many have said trophy is in the eye of the beholder. I personally wouldn't pay a dime for a canned hunt. The best known blacktail "guide" (that I know of) specializes in private land hunts that many would consider "yard bucks", not my style. I hunt areas where 125 is always a real possibility, seeing them and killing them don't go hand and hand(torture for me lol). I would have a tough time paying for any blacktail hunt and it's my second favorite animal (elk). We actually have very good seasons in Washington although I have noticed a marked decline in blacktail numbers over the last decade.
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Too bad in Canada we have no option as American citizens. No guide/No hunt >:( But I'm not going to feel my Canadian animals are any less worthy of praise and respect just because the government forced me to work with a guide.
:yike: :yike: :yike:
:mgun: friggin redcoats
you guys do realize you have inalienable rights as humans on earth?
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The neighbor kid shoots a doe or my attorney shoots a 400 bull on the San Carlos make little difference to me. If they are enjoying themselves in the sport I'm happy for them!
Record books are good for nothing more than a measuring system in my mind. Shoot a book buck DIY or with a guide why in the world would I care? Not my animal so it's no business of mine. I've shot book bucks with a guide and I've taken book bucks on my own and I've been pleased with all of them or I wouldn't have taken the shot. My favorite blacktail buck harvest was a two point that no longer meets book requirements. If you are happy bowhunting I'm happy for you. Beyond that I'll worry about myself and let others worry about whatever it is that other people worry about.
I think your BIL will have a great time. I hope he shoots straight and gets everything he's hoping for!
:yeah:
Very true radsav, my most prized bt is also a regressed 2 that I chased for 4 years and was once a magnificent 4 point with eyeguards.
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Nope
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Maybe the question was worded improperly, but I feel that for the right amount of money a hunter can pay for the opportunity to hunt quality blacktails with a high chance of harvesting a buck that would make either P&Y or B&C book. For example this started with a buck that my brother-in-law with be targeting this early archery season. This buck is somewhere in the 100" range and would be his first deer harvest, and first book buck for P&Y. Another friend and I were discussing how crazy it is that my BIL will most likely harvest a P&Y buck for his first deer harvest and might not even appreciate how special that is. We then drifted the conversation to how many people might only harvest a few book blacktails in their lifetime and some might never even have the chance. So we concluded that there might be some people out there who would be willing to pay for the chance to harvest a quality buck that otherwise might be unattainable to them. With that said I was just curious who out there would be willing to pay for that opportunity, at what cost and what inch expectation.
With that being said, I will still stick with my original answer of "no, I'm not willing to pay at any cost". Mainly because scoring an animal isn't important to me. I know a lot of guys are really into that, but I'm just happy to get a decent size buck.
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I wouldn't feel a sense of accomplishment. I like doing things myself. Jmho
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The neighbor kid shoots a doe or my attorney shoots a 400 bull on the San Carlos make little difference to me. If they are enjoying themselves in the sport I'm happy for them!
Record books are good for nothing more than a measuring system in my mind. Shoot a book buck DIY or with a guide why in the world would I care? Not my animal so it's no business of mine. I've shot book bucks with a guide and I've taken book bucks on my own and I've been pleased with all of them or I wouldn't have taken the shot. My favorite blacktail buck harvest was a two point that no longer meets book requirements. If you are happy bowhunting I'm happy for you. Beyond that I'll worry about myself and let others worry about whatever it is that other people worry about.
I think your BIL will have a great time. I hope he shoots straight and gets everything he's hoping for!
Well said.
I wonder sometimes just how truly self-sufficient any of us really are..... It's interesting where we draw our lines.
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Interesting question. I would not pay to go shoot a buck but I might pay a guy to teach me how to hunt them more effectively. If that makes any sense. Give a man a fish/teach a man to fish.
I buy books/videos/go to seminars and such. A private, in the field, tutor would not be out of the question.
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You couldnt even pay me to shoot one of those rat deer.
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You couldnt even pay me to shoot one of those rat deer.
>:( >:( >:( :chuckle:
Why isn't there a law that people cannot hunt in county's or areas that aren't theirs?...I'm tired of it!
Sorry couldn't resist.
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It takes a lot of time to harvest a good blacktail. They are probably the hardest deer to hunt in my own opinion. I am sure some people would pay top dollar to put a monster on the wall. I read Tom Mirandas book and he paid 4500 for his Blacktail
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I would pay exactly what I pay now, the cost of my license and tags. I'm sure it would be cool to get a record book buck, but I feel like a trophy could be any size, it just depends on the effort you had to put in or who you were with when you got it. To me, a quality buck involves alot more than what it scores on paper. My first deer was when I was 17, a little 2x3, but I was with Jackmaster, his brother, and 2 other good friends, and it was cool because they were all there with me, and that's something you always remember. Just my :twocents:
:yeah: AH YES, the good ole days, i do miss those times, things sure have changed alot since then, mainly do to predators, but thats a differant subject in itself. those were the times, it is funny now because we are both teachn are youngsters on the same piece of dirt are dads taught us, thats the meaning of a trophy :tup:
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I would pay exactly what I pay now, the cost of my license and tags. I'm sure it would be cool to get a record book buck, but I feel like a trophy could be any size, it just depends on the effort you had to put in or who you were with when you got it. To me, a quality buck involves alot more than what it scores on paper. My first deer was when I was 17, a little 2x3, but I was with Jackmaster, his brother, and 2 other good friends, and it was cool because they were all there with me, and that's something you always remember. Just my :twocents:
:yeah: AH YES, the good ole days, i do miss those times, things sure have changed alot since then, mainly do to predators, but thats a differant subject in itself. those were the times, it is funny now because we are both teachn are youngsters on the same piece of dirt are dads taught us, thats the meaning of a trophy :tup:
:yeah: :tup:
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I wouldn't feel a sense of accomplishment. I like doing things myself. Jmho
Button I'm not picking on you here, several others have had comments not to different form yours. I am betting most of you that have made these comments have never hired a guide. Unless you are hunting what is basically a game farm in Texas or something hiring a guide usually isn't some slam dunk thing where they just put you in front of a trophy animal. The first and foremost reason I would hire a guiding service today is to get me packed into the area I want to be, not to mention they will have camp set up which is also nice. We used to own horses and have all the stuff to do a pack in trip. I like horses but can't say I loved them enough to commit to the year round care they need. I did the math and I could (I don't) pretty much hire an outfitter every year for the price of owning horses year round. The other thing a guide does is give you the knowledge of an area you don't know. Most of us have areas we have hunted for years and know how to be successful but still have to hunt hard to do so, it's nice to have somebody along in a new area to give some knowledge on it. I have talked to guys that have gone one guided trips that said they were the hardest hunts of their lives. The guides expected them to get out and hunt and put the work in they never did on their own.
I hunted a guided turkey hunt once and it was an enjoyable expierence. We had to hike our arses off, it wasn't a cake walk. I'm just the kind of guy who likes to do everything DIY. Different strokes for different folks.
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I've been on a guided hunt (I didn't pay for it) and also on a drop camp or two. They are ok, but the guides/outfitters get to do all the fun stuff. I enjoy reading maps, scouting areas, and finding game probably more than the actual hunt itself. So, to hire a guide or an outfitter is fine, but it just removes some of the most enjoyable and rewarding aspects of the hunt. As long as there is public land or private land that is open to the public for hunting that holds good bucks, I'd prefer to hunt the areas on my own.
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Makes no sense. Do you work for a Timber Company trying to figure out how much they can get for trophy hunting?
To me if you pay for a trophy buck then it is worth exactly what you pay for it. Do your homework, scout, and hunt hard and it is priceless. Personalty I am never impressed with a big buck or bull that someone paid big bucks to hunt. Show me a decent low scoring bull with a story of a hard hunt, learning the hard way, and putting it all together and I am impressed.
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I might pay if I was hunting an animal out of state that I wasn't familiar with, but not a deer in my own state. :twocents: