Post by: kirkl on August 15, 2013, 03:25:56 PM
Tree stand height- 15-20 ft
Distance of target to base of tree- 13-15 yards
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 15, 2013, 03:33:09 PM
Aim for the bottom of the heart and say goodnight Gracie :dunno:
Post by: kirkl on August 15, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
Post by: JLS on August 15, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 15, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Post by: MR5x5 on August 15, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
On flat ground, if you know the height (call it "B") and the straight line distance to the Target (call it "C"), then the Horizontal Distance "A" to the target is the square root of A squared plus B squared.
Unless you are shooting real long, or real steep (like 30 deg or more) just nock off a couple yards and call it good.
Same thing for shooting either uphill or downhill. Nock off a couple yards...
Post by: Smossy on August 15, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
It's all about the horizontal distance to the target, i.e. the length of flight that gravity is pulling down on the projectile.If shooting uphill, wouldnt you think gravity would come into play even more than shooting on even terrain? Id think it would be horizontal +
On flat ground, if you know the height (call it "B") and the straight line distance to the Target (call it "C"), then the Horizontal Distance "A" to the target is the square root of A squared plus B squared.
Unless you are shooting real long, or real steep (like 30 deg or more) just nock off a couple yards and call it good.
Same thing for shooting either uphill or downhill. Nock off a couple yards...
I understand how shooting downhill your already in a - gravity trajectory so I see how that works. Just not shooting up
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 15, 2013, 04:16:46 PM
I think he just mis-typed that Smossy. It has the opposite effect of shooting downhill. It's really not that much though. It's only a couple inches at 40 yards for me on a sloping hill
Post by: MR5x5 on August 15, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
Here is a mind bender for you.... Where do you aim (high or low) at a target directly below you vs a target directly above you?
Ans: At the exact center as there is no horizontal component to either shot :yike:
Post by: luckyman on August 15, 2013, 05:22:47 PM
An arrow flying straight up or straight down has the least.
As an arrow flies straight up it slows the quickest but doesn't change coarse till it peters out and turns downward.
So shave a few yards off on up or down shots or aim a touch low.
Post by: Smossy on August 15, 2013, 05:56:12 PM
Post by: MIKEXRAY on August 15, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 16, 2013, 08:00:00 AM
I have missed an elk before due to shot angle... was much farther and steeper than any treestand shot. I then corrected due to what an angle compensating rangefknder said. I shot again and double lunged that elk. There was an 8 yard difference.
I now know from experience how much and when to cut yardage.
Post by: Special T on August 16, 2013, 08:06:07 AM
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Post by: D-Rock425 on August 17, 2013, 07:36:35 AM
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Post by: Smossy on August 17, 2013, 02:19:07 PM
People really ovethink this stuff. Most of the time the yardage difference is so minimal most of us won't know the different. When it really starts to come into effect is really step up or down at longer ranges. Id say 40 plus yards. Up or down is the same you always subtrac yards NEVER add yards up or down. If you have time to play with a range finder that does the math for you most of the time it is only like a yard or 2 you take off. Most bows these days if you're a yard or two off animal is still going to die.So what your saying, is aim slightly lower when it comes to elevated shots?
Post by: Bob33 on August 17, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
That's not what he said. He said "don't overthink this stuff" and the "yardage difference is so minimal most of us won't know the difference". In other words, aim as if you were on level ground. Unless the distance is extreme and the angle very steep, trying to compute the horizontal distance versus straight line distance is wasted time and effort. When people start talking about "aiming lower" or "your shots will be higher" it's much too easy to get confused. In his original example of a 15 foot high stand, the difference would be approximately one foot at 40 yards: aim as if the animal were at 39 2/3 yards, not 40 yards.People really ovethink this stuff. Most of the time the yardage difference is so minimal most of us won't know the different. When it really starts to come into effect is really step up or down at longer ranges. Id say 40 plus yards. Up or down is the same you always subtrac yards NEVER add yards up or down. If you have time to play with a range finder that does the math for you most of the time it is only like a yard or 2 you take off. Most bows these days if you're a yard or two off animal is still going to die.So what your saying, is aim slightly lower when it comes to elevated shots?
Post by: Smossy on August 17, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
So nothing, lol I did some shooting from my girls 2nd story window one day, about 20 feet. down to the coyote target. Almost seemed like my arrows were faster because they were ripping almost completely through my 3d target.That's not what he said. He said "don't overthink this stuff" and the "yardage difference is so minimal most of us won't know the difference". In other words, aim as if you were on level ground. Unless the distance is extreme and the angle very steep, trying to compute the horizontal distance versus straight line distance is wasted time and effort. When people start talking about "aiming lower" or "your shots will be higher" it's much too easy to get confused. In his original example of a 15 foot high stand, the difference would be approximately one foot at 40 yards: aim as if the animal were at 39 2/3 yards, not 40 yards.People really ovethink this stuff. Most of the time the yardage difference is so minimal most of us won't know the different. When it really starts to come into effect is really step up or down at longer ranges. Id say 40 plus yards. Up or down is the same you always subtrac yards NEVER add yards up or down. If you have time to play with a range finder that does the math for you most of the time it is only like a yard or 2 you take off. Most bows these days if you're a yard or two off animal is still going to die.So what your saying, is aim slightly lower when it comes to elevated shots?