Post by: steve04 on August 15, 2013, 07:47:39 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 15, 2013, 07:50:13 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 15, 2013, 07:56:38 PM
Post by: steve04 on August 15, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 15, 2013, 08:03:01 PM
It may still be hard to get right now so some vendors are trying to cut a fat hog.
Post by: bobcat on August 15, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 15, 2013, 08:51:27 PM
Post by: Hunt4ever on August 15, 2013, 08:59:33 PM
A 7mm Magnum with a 160gr Nosler Accubond or Partition will take care of everything on the North America menu. :tup:
:yeah: partition all the way!!!
Post by: huntnphool on August 15, 2013, 09:00:53 PM
A 7mm Magnum with a 160gr Nosler Accubond or Partition will take care of everything on the North America menu. :tup::yeah: My go to rifle has been a 7mm for many years, no old jokes from the peanut gallery either, and Nosler Partitions have never failed me.
Like BH says, most 7's shoot the 160 very well, I'd take a good hard look at the Federal Premiums if you don't load your own. :twocents:
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 15, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
A 7mm Magnum with a 160gr Nosler Accubond or Partition will take care of everything on the North America menu. :tup::yeah: My go to rifle has been a 7mm for many years, no old jokes from the peanut gallery either, and Nosler Partitions have never failed me.
Like BH says, most 7's shoot the 160 very well, I'd take a good hard look at the Federal Premiums if you don't load your own. :twocents:
:yeah:
What phool and hammer said.
Post by: Smokepole on August 15, 2013, 09:06:15 PM
Post by: norsepeak on August 15, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 15, 2013, 09:15:29 PM
With fancy ammo, I've heard you can kill stuff really, really dead. Over the years, mostly dead has been good enough for me, so I go with the cheap stuff like wea300mag uses. I've been using it for years, and I can attest that all of my big game has been mostly dead. :chuckle:
I see Bobcats point about loss of meat.
But as Ron White says, you can always shoot 'em in the head.............. Ron White: California Cops (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHPPYNYOy-I#ws)
********WARNING!******** there is a naughty swear word in the video, so kids please don't watch
Post by: idahohuntr on August 15, 2013, 09:20:49 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 15, 2013, 09:31:41 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on August 16, 2013, 07:58:36 AM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on August 16, 2013, 08:06:40 AM
A 7mm Magnum with a 160gr Nosler Accubond or Partition will take care of everything on the North America menu. :tup::yeah:
The only others i would suggest would be the 163 hornady gmx or the berger 168 vld. Both perform very well out of my 7mm. I still shoot the accubond 160 though.
As Phool said, federal makes a very good factory load with the accubonds.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on August 16, 2013, 09:41:49 AM
During my initial sight in for my scope I tried Winchester Supremes out of my Remington 700 in 7mm and I got a pattern not a grouping, switched to the Remington CL and it tightened right up. When I get the scope close I switched to my hand loads and they were actually pretty darn close, my hand loads we better though. Like I said sight in was fine and I could probly use them for hunting I just like MY loads more.
So try what works best for your rifle some CAN be ammo picky.
P.S. My hand loads are Nosler 150gr Ballistic tips loaded to 3100 FPS in Winchester supreme brass (when my rifle didn't like the Winchesters I pulled the bullets lol)
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 16, 2013, 09:51:51 AM
Post by: 762Armo on August 16, 2013, 09:54:41 AM
Post by: 724wd on August 16, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
Post by: huntnphool on August 16, 2013, 10:01:20 AM
I've been using 175G remington core lokt, after reading this thread, wonder if I should switch to a lighter bullet.If you can put that 175 in the right spot every time then don't mess with it, shot location is most important. That being said, I hunt primarily with 140gr. Partitions :twocents:
Post by: C-Money on August 16, 2013, 10:06:04 AM
Post by: steve04 on August 16, 2013, 12:18:43 PM
Post by: fastdam on August 16, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
At that range and shooting deer just about anything.
I agree. Just about any factory 7mag round will work for deer within that range. I would say shoot whats accurate out of your rifle. Whatever that may be
Post by: GoldTip on August 16, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
Post by: Curly on August 16, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
I bet 140 gr and 150 gr Core-Lokts would tend to bloodshot a lot of meat and maybe blowup when hitting bone. With non premium bullet (or non Partitian) I'd go with 175 gr. With a Partitian or bonded/solid copper bullet, you can get away with the lighter bullets. :twocents:
With that said and the ammo shortages going on now, it seems like you may have to shoot whatever you can find. :o
I just looked at MidwayUSA (http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=3&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=15898&pageNumber=2) and almost everything is unavailable. It does look like they have Winchester Supreme loaded with 140 gr Accubonds though ($40). Those would be good if they shoot well.
Post by: 762Armo on August 16, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
Post by: steve04 on August 16, 2013, 06:12:37 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on August 16, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
Post by: Smokepole on August 16, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
So why are we talking about bullets again? Cause guys like to talk about bullets, that's all. Not because one is so much better than the other. Not because one is a meat saver. If you want to hit big game in the bones & save meat, try a .243 or some other smaller caliber, flat shooting rifle. The 7mm is a cannon. You should just take good shots & enjoy the heck out of that gun!
Smokepole
Post by: Dan-o on August 16, 2013, 06:54:23 PM
I'd go with a cheap 175 grain factory load that shot well. The 175's are a bit slower - lessening the risk of a bullet bomb on impact and you don't need super Nosler Speer Tipped GTMXSS NITRO Injected bullets to kill deer.
Same rifle for elk..... I'm buying a premium bullet like a 160 grain Nosler Partition.
Post by: Crunchy on August 16, 2013, 07:01:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 16, 2013, 07:13:06 PM
And as Dan said, it's not a bad thing to slow the 7 mag down a bit by using a 175 grain bullet. The heavier bullet will penetrate better as well, which may not be needed for deer, but some people, me included, like to use the same load for everything.
Having said that, personally, I'd be using something in the 140 to 150 range, in order to lessen recoil somewhat. That's the nice thing about going with a premium bullet like a Barnes. You can go with a much lighter bullet and still have the penetration you'd get with a heavier bullet of the conventional design.
Post by: Smokepole on August 16, 2013, 07:44:37 PM
Post by: huntnphool on August 16, 2013, 07:51:08 PM
Here's the only picture I have of a 150 grain Remington core-lokt bullet. I dug this one out of a buck & decided to save it. I've used factory Winchester loads too, but I prefer the Remingtons. Over the years we've dug quite a few nice bullets out of big game. They hold together well, and the price is right for me.Thats cool, I have never once been able to retain one of my 7mm bullets, every single one has been a through and through.
Post by: Smokepole on August 16, 2013, 08:15:56 PM
Post by: nwwanderer on August 16, 2013, 08:28:05 PM
Post by: Dan-o on August 16, 2013, 08:28:27 PM
You dont need to go over 160 for deer and elk. I kinda laugh at some of the weight you guys throw down range. I guess we are all a little guilty of overkill. I would find a good 150-160 grain or so bullet that shot well and go with that.
I agree you don't need the weight for deer.
But, I have personally experienced cor-lokt bullet explosion from a 7 mm at about 100 yards into the shoulder of a deer...... Bullet hit so fast it blew into teeny pieces.
I said 175 just to slow it down a bit, since trajectory wouldn't be much of an issue with a 7mm out to 300 yards.
Post by: huntnphool on August 16, 2013, 08:48:12 PM
Well, I'm not a very good shot. So I usually find my bullets somewhere I don't expect them. :)LMAO :chuckle:
Post by: fishunt on August 28, 2013, 10:05:38 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on August 30, 2013, 07:16:43 AM
Might consider trying some of the other ammo mentioned here to see what I think.
Post by: arees on August 30, 2013, 07:46:35 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on August 30, 2013, 07:59:26 AM
I'd go with a bonded bullet like Nosler Accubond, or a 100% copper bullet like the Barnes TSX. The 7 mag moves those bullets right along and cheap bullets can come apart easily at higher velocities. Not that they won't kill a deer, but wouldn't you rather not have lead fragments spread throughout your meat?
:yeah:
Post by: steve04 on September 01, 2013, 05:27:05 PM
Post by: 7mmstalker on September 08, 2013, 10:03:52 PM
Heavy -for -caliber ammo has few drawbacks, other than a bit more recoil. Shooting 175gr 7mm loads doesnt have much more kick than a 180gr 30-06 load.
The benefits are many, as others have suggested, less violent expansion-especially important at close range, better downrange energy, bucks wind MUCH better, premium bullets not necessary for excellent performance.
I've used 140, 150, 160, 175, bullets. The 175 has been the most consistent and least trouble to get an accurate load worked up for 3 different rifles- Ruger M77, Rem 700, my current favorite-custom barreled Mauser. That one shoots factory ammo near MOA accurate.
If you're using "off the shelf" ammo, the premium stuff will probably get you better accuracy, but the high-end bullets really aren't needed. Using standard factory stuff may give you equal accuracy, but require more testing to discover which load works best.
More shooting, that's always a good thing!