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Title: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Kain on August 16, 2013, 04:27:40 PM
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Portlands-ban-on-loaded-guns-is-constutional-Supreme-Court-says-219986611.html?abc=kf8RRNt0 (http://www.katu.com/news/local/Portlands-ban-on-loaded-guns-is-constutional-Supreme-Court-says-219986611.html?abc=kf8RRNt0)
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: 300rum on August 16, 2013, 04:35:32 PM
Oregon law lets city ordinances pass stricter gun laws then what State laws allow, at least from my understanding.

I think that this is our saving grace in Washington.  The cities can't, they have tried though. 

Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Windwalker on August 17, 2013, 09:41:30 PM

   
 Leaves me speechless -  displeased - but not surprised at the creative and collective stupidity of large liberal based populations.
Perhaps they should install 'gun free zone' signs at each street corner to prevent criminals from carrying guns also.
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: csaaphill on August 18, 2013, 02:04:13 AM
so much for open carry for defence, or concealed carry huh?
Wait a minute please so I can load my gun please!
Disarmament in the worst way. Lots of victims on this if they abide. Guess dont abide huh?
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: seth30 on August 18, 2013, 02:48:53 AM
 :yike:
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Curly on August 18, 2013, 05:16:22 AM
Is there any recourse for the citizens of Portland to get this obviously poor ruling overturned?  I imagine not.  It's worse than NY City's law restricting firearms to be loaded with no more than 7 bullets.  It is simply unbelievable......... :o
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 18, 2013, 07:15:21 AM
I'd rather go to jail for carrying my weapon loaded, than being dead.  :tup:
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: TheBlues76 on August 18, 2013, 07:27:03 AM
So if you get held at gun point, "Hang on! I've got a gun. Let me put the bullets in!"
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Curly on August 18, 2013, 07:32:45 AM
Is there any recourse for the citizens of Portland to get this obviously poor ruling overturned?  I imagine not.  It's worse than NY City's law restricting firearms to be loaded with no more than 7 bullets.  It is simply unbelievable......... :o

I guess I should have read the article before I posted. 

Quote
The lawyer who wanted Portland’s restrictions overturned said Friday he might appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Hopefully it is appealed to the US Supreme Court. 


Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: xd2005 on August 18, 2013, 07:44:58 AM
Just get a CHL...
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Special T on August 18, 2013, 08:19:28 AM
well that is a solution, but unfortunate if we surrender that right to carry the y will only move to take more away from citizens. I think it is wise to wear a seat belt and a helmet when riding a motorcycle, but think it is wrong to make some one do it.
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: xd2005 on August 18, 2013, 08:24:22 AM

well that is a solution, but unfortunate if we surrender that right to carry the y will only move to take more away from citizens. I think it is wise to wear a seat belt and a helmet when riding a motorcycle, but think it is wrong to make some one do it.

I wouldn't call it a "solution," but rather a work-around.
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 18, 2013, 08:26:40 AM
This is why we need to split the American population ...Let all liberals move into the cities and they can make all the laws they want that suit themselves ...and let the country folks live there life they want and make their own rules .... :dunno: :chuckle: sounds good doesn't it !! :dunno:
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Special T on August 18, 2013, 08:27:05 AM
OK its a personal band-aid to make the situation workable until people pull their head out.
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 18, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
I just wonder when we will see an up rising in this country ...things are getting worse by the minute , not by the hour  :dunno:
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Bean Counter on August 18, 2013, 08:38:53 AM
Is there any recourse for the citizens of Portland to get this obviously poor ruling overturned?  I imagine not.  It's worse than NY City's law restricting firearms to be loaded with no more than 7 bullets.  It is simply unbelievable......... :o

Yep. Move.

Simple.  :)
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: csaaphill on August 21, 2013, 02:07:31 AM
I just wonder when we will see an up rising in this country ...things are getting worse by the minute , not by the hour  :dunno:
:yeah:
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 21, 2013, 04:45:30 AM
I'd like to know what the 12 exceptions are.
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: xd2005 on August 21, 2013, 09:57:27 AM

I'd like to know what the 12 exceptions are.

http://www.portlandonline.com/auditor/index.cfm?a=332592&c=28514

C.  The following are exceptions and constitute affirmative defenses to a violation of this Section:
 
1.  A police officer or other duly appointed peace officers, whether active or honorably retired.
 
2.  A member of the military in the performance of official duty.
 
3.  A person licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
 
4.  A person authorized to possess a loaded firearm while in or on a public building under ORS 166.370.
 
5.  A government employee authorized or required by his or her employment or office to carry firearms.
 
6.  A person summoned by a police officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace, while such person is actually engaged in assisting the officer.
 
7.  A merchant who possesses or is engaged in lawfully transporting unloaded firearms as merchandise.
 
8.  Organizations which are by law authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state.
 
9.  Duly authorized military or civil organizations while parading, or their members when going to and from the places of meeting of their organization.
 
10.  A corrections officer while transporting or accompanying an individual convicted of or arrested for an offense and confined in a place of incarceration or detention while outside the confines of the place of incarceration or detention.
 
11.  Persons travelling to and from an established target range, whether public or private, for the purpose of practicing shooting targets at the target ranges.
 
12.  Licensed hunters or fishermen while engaged in hunting or fishing, or while going to or returning from a hunting or fishing expedition.
 
13.  A person authorized by permit of the Chief of Police to possess a loaded firearm, clip, or magazine in a public place in the City of Portland.
 
14.  A security guard employed at a financial institution insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation while the security guard is on duty.
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 21, 2013, 01:03:42 PM
So it sounds like they mainly just did away with open carry. Unless you of course are a gov't employee.  :rolleyes:  Was open carry legal there to begin with?
Title: Re: Portland's ban on loaded guns is constitutional, Supreme Court says
Post by: Special T on August 21, 2013, 01:37:39 PM
yes
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