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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: buglebuster on August 24, 2013, 12:18:24 PM

Title: New toy
Post by: buglebuster on August 24, 2013, 12:18:24 PM: Well here is what i ended up with, the traditions vortek... Anyone have any suggestions on good load? I normally use 250gr t/c bonded
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: kerrdog on August 24, 2013, 06:23:58 PM: I like the back-drop. :chuckle:
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: James E on August 24, 2013, 06:29:25 PM: 120 grains 777 loose powder. 250gr T/C shock wave. The vortek was deadly out of the box.
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: barracuda163 on August 24, 2013, 06:41:17 PM: Hope you have a spare nipple... nothing good to say about that model.
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: buglebuster on August 24, 2013, 07:05:01 PM: Quote from: barracuda163 on August 24, 2013, 06:41:17 PM
Hope you have a spare nipple... nothing good to say about that model.
And why is that? I have heard nothing but good things about the new ones.. 4 of my friends have them and love them.
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: Sabotloader on August 24, 2013, 07:42:07 PM: Quote from: buglebuster on August 24, 2013, 07:05:01 PM
Quote from: barracuda163 on August 24, 2013, 06:41:17 PM
Hope you have a spare nipple... nothing good to say about that model.
And why is that? I have heard nothing but good things about the new ones.. 4 of my friends have them and love them.

I really hope you are right... That model has had a lot of problems with ignition. You are asking a rifle that was made to shoot primers - then retrofitted to use caps and then to be reliable using caps. IMO only the firing pin is to small and the hammer spring is on the weak side, and finally the nipple - check the distance (length) of the powder from the ignition source. That is all dead air space and it could really be cold air - loosing heat from a cap in that space could/can be a big problem. But, possibly in your hunting area you might not get the zero weather we get here.
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: kerrdog on August 25, 2013, 06:57:45 AM: I wish a someone would do a gun review that really tested the most popular washington legal muzzleloaders. Cap ignition would be of particular interest since I have a NW Explorer that I would love if it did not have a history of failing to ignite caps. It just does not hit them hard enough. Which guns?

CVA Elkhorn
Traditions Vortek
That other traditions rifle that has bolt action
Knight Disk Extreme/Ultralight
Knight Bighorn
T/C NW Explorer

What did I forget?
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: buglebuster on August 25, 2013, 09:12:59 AM: One of my friends has put 200 rounds through his with no misfire :dunno:
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: James E on August 25, 2013, 02:36:23 PM: I know there were some issues with the earlier models. I have not had any problems yet, with the vortek. It is more accurate then both of my Knights. I have had mis-fires while hunting with my Remington and both of my Knights. I have not had 1 with the Vortek yet and I hope I don't. It's muzzle loading. Bugle, did you get the LDR model?
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: Bigtine96 on August 25, 2013, 03:12:05 PM: They fixed the misfire along time ago...

I shoot a 300 grain copper jacket with 150 grains of pyrodex pellets, killed 3 bulls with this setup now and the last was at 175 yards.
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: buglebuster on August 25, 2013, 03:15:01 PM: Quote from: Bigtine96 on August 25, 2013, 03:12:05 PM
They fixed the misfire along time ago...

I shoot a 300 grain copper jacket with 150 grains of pyrodex pellets, killed 3 bulls with this setup now and the last was at 175 yards.
What bullet?
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: Bigtine96 on August 25, 2013, 03:18:35 PM: TC Shockwaves
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Post by: barracuda163 on August 25, 2013, 05:18:10 PM: I know two people who purchased vorteks within a year and both have had broken nipples and firing issues. When was the revision made? Another thing I had seen on some was the cerakote flaking off at the muzzle.
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: buglebuster on August 25, 2013, 05:20:12 PM: First 2 shots out of it. 250 t/c with 150gr pyrodex pellets. First shot 50yds, 3in high, second shot 150yds 1/2in high, i like it!
Title: Re: New toy
Post by: Bigtine96 on August 25, 2013, 07:54:57 PM: Welcome to the club man, there great muzzeloaders.