Post by: bigmv on August 27, 2013, 10:41:43 AM
Post by: elkhuntingcouple on August 27, 2013, 10:47:50 AM
With all the animals around you never know what is coming your way. 30 bulls out of hundreds is nothing, Just don't shoot a collared animal.
Good Luck have the best hunt of your life!! Its more about the hunt than anything right!!
Sharon
Post by: Austrian Hunter on August 27, 2013, 10:51:46 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on August 27, 2013, 10:54:10 AM
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Post by: woodywsu on August 27, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Except for those culls don't shoot them for the meat.
Post by: huntnphool on August 27, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:No kidding, kind of like the prescribed burns a couple years ago started throughout the Methow Valley during the 9 day general deer season. What are the odds of that being accidental or coincidental? :chuckle:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Post by: boneaddict on August 27, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
Post by: huntnphool on August 27, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
Makes ya wonder doesn't it.No need to wonder, its as designed.
Post by: boneaddict on August 27, 2013, 11:29:59 AM
Post by: snowpack on August 27, 2013, 11:35:24 AM
Or aerial elk surveys during the end of archery and during the special permit hunts.Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:No kidding, kind of like the prescribed burns a couple years ago started throughout the Methow Valley during the 9 day general deer season. What are the odds of that being accidental or coincidental? :chuckle:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Post by: huntnphool on August 27, 2013, 11:39:14 AM
another example....running of cats and collaring them in our LAST hound season. Its the game to compete with other hunters finding and running a cat. Sure makes it more interesting when the government is doing the same dang thing wight where you are hunting and are interfering with the hunt...Oh thats right, I remember that thread, I think that was mulehunter that was told he couldn't go after those cats.
Post by: muzbuster on August 27, 2013, 11:39:35 AM
Post by: bobcat on August 27, 2013, 11:47:54 AM
Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:No kidding, kind of like the prescribed burns a couple years ago started throughout the Methow Valley during the 9 day general deer season. What are the odds of that being accidental or coincidental? :chuckle:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Prescribed burns are done in the fall as that is when the weather makes it safe to do so. It's definitely not done to interfere with hunting season.
Post by: MtnMuley on August 27, 2013, 11:52:39 AM
Post by: Alchase on August 27, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:No kidding, kind of like the prescribed burns a couple years ago started throughout the Methow Valley during the 9 day general deer season. What are the odds of that being accidental or coincidental? :chuckle:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
I see that every year! Last year up Loop Loop, I came across 20 - 30 small fires still smoldering, while the campfire burn ban was on :bash:
Post by: woodywsu on August 27, 2013, 11:53:29 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 27, 2013, 11:53:58 AM
Post by: rtspring on August 27, 2013, 11:56:18 AM
Big load of crap !!!!
They simply amaze me on how they run things!!!
Rtspring
Post by: huntnphool on August 27, 2013, 11:56:25 AM
Thanks for your insightful yet obvious comment Bob, I think we all understand the burns should not be done in the summer. :chuckle:Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:No kidding, kind of like the prescribed burns a couple years ago started throughout the Methow Valley during the 9 day general deer season. What are the odds of that being accidental or coincidental? :chuckle:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Prescribed burns are done in the fall as that is when the weather makes it safe to do so. It's definitely not done to interfere with hunting season.
That being said, would the burns be any less effective once the hunters were done? Is it really necessary to target the burns during the already short window that the overwhelming majority of hunters must target too? I seriously doubt it!!!
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 27, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 27, 2013, 12:17:15 PM
The timing of prescribed burns is critical. If they don't do them at the prime time, they might as well not do it at all. Then we can just count on Mother Nature burning it all up on her schedule, rather than ours.
If you don't understand the science behind prescribed burns, maybe it would be best to keep the speculation to yourself. :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on August 27, 2013, 12:19:21 PM
:nono: No no no on your woodstoves or campfires, we are lighting the forest on fire this month. :chuckle:
Post by: woodywsu on August 27, 2013, 12:41:58 PM
If you don't understand the science behind prescribed burns, maybe it would be best to keep the speculation to yourself. :dunno:
Who are you addressing this to?
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 27, 2013, 12:45:25 PM
You're welcome phool. :tup:
The timing of prescribed burns is critical. If they don't do them at the prime time, they might as well not do it at all. Then we can just count on Mother Nature burning it all up on her schedule, rather than ours.
If you don't understand the science behind prescribed burns, maybe it would be best to keep the speculation to yourself. :dunno:
Oh I agree bobcat and I'm not arguing your "science" but, when the powers that be put out a contract and they set the dates, times and locations who am I to argue about doing the job and making the money???? We utilize all of our training amd experience to keep it contained and as safely as possible while getting the job done.
Post by: coachcw on August 27, 2013, 12:49:19 PM
I understand youi comments on the burn topics boys . but what doe's that have to do with the topic at hand ? Collaring bulls . honistlly I wouldn't worry about the bulls in 251 enjoy your hunt , now the rut tag holder and the muzzy guys have a legit bitch here.Thanks for your insightful yet obvious comment Bob, I think we all understand the burns should not be done in the summer. :chuckle:Sounds like WDFW has a good plan............Right during the middle of the rut, 20-25 bulls, non-edible for 30 days........in an area where a certain group of culls continue to knock down every bull around.........hmm, great idea. :twocents: :tup:No kidding, kind of like the prescribed burns a couple years ago started throughout the Methow Valley during the 9 day general deer season. What are the odds of that being accidental or coincidental? :chuckle:
...............I certainly wouldn't let that bother me if I had the 251 tag. :twocents:
Prescribed burns are done in the fall as that is when the weather makes it safe to do so. It's definitely not done to interfere with hunting season.
That being said, would the burns be any less effective once the hunters were done? Is it really necessary to target the burns during the already short window that the overwhelming majority of hunters must target too? I seriously doubt it!!!
Post by: bobcat on August 27, 2013, 12:52:11 PM
If you don't understand the science behind prescribed burns, maybe it would be best to keep the speculation to yourself. :dunno:
Who are you addressing this to?
My good buddy huntnphool.
And yes, of course prescribed burns can be done in the spring. But they can also be done in the fall. Or anytime really, as long as conditions are right.
Post by: snowpack on August 27, 2013, 12:59:27 PM
Typical WDFW!! My question to add to this is..If this drug stays in their system for 30 days and makes the meat non-consumable, how does it effect any potential calves that bull fathers?????????? I'm sure WDFW says it has NO effect to a fetus.I wonder what that inedible meat will do to wolves?
Post by: winshooter88 on August 27, 2013, 01:33:52 PM
Post by: headshot5 on August 27, 2013, 01:59:04 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on August 27, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: huntnphool on August 27, 2013, 07:17:33 PM
If you don't understand the science behind prescribed burns,, maybe it would be best to keep the speculation to yourself. :dunno:Who are you addressing this to?
My good buddy huntnphool.
And yes, of course prescribed burns can be done in the spring. But they can also be done in the fall. Or anytime really, as long as conditions are right.
:chuckle: How much science does it take to come up with "anytime really, as long as conditions are right"? :chuckle:
;)Quote from: link=topic=132768.msg1769489#msg1769489 date=1377632518My good buddy huntnphool.Quote from: link=topic=132768.msg1769461#msg1769461 date=1377631035
You have to admit Bob, thats pretty funny. :chuckle:
Post by: bigmv on August 28, 2013, 09:16:53 AM
Think about it this way, when is it easiest to find branch antlered bulls, during the rut. The same is true for the WDFW, it is easiest for them to find them during the rut. One of the reasons that they are doing the study on branch antlered bulls in the Colockum is because of a very vocal group of local sportsmen who say that there are a lot more branch antlered bulls than get counted in the annual counts that the WDFW does. So this study they are starting is partly to try to find out if that is true. If there are a large amount of bulls that are not being counted then maybe more bull tags could be issued. As far as worrying about taking a collared bull in GMU 251, I doubt that will be a problem, but the solution is easy, just don't shoot a bull with a collar.I thought of that too, I asked what color the collars are, answer " Tan". Same color as their coat.
Post by: boneaddict on August 28, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 28, 2013, 09:44:53 AM
Post by: snowpack on August 28, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
:yeah: hahahaha.......I'd like to harvest some animal with a collar but not if its tainted meat just to tey amd pull some type of prank. :chuckle:I heard a while back about the guys in Idaho shooting wolves with collars and they'd toss the collars on the grain barges heading down the Snake/Columbia. Supposedly the bios were looking for wolves down near Portland.
Post by: winshooter88 on August 30, 2013, 05:24:50 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on August 30, 2013, 07:39:31 AM
Prescribed burns can be performed in the spring.
I would think it would be harder to schedule..they cannot predict when the melt off would be done as well as what each road is going to look like for access. :twocents:
Post by: dreamingbig on August 30, 2013, 07:45:10 AM
Post by: winshooter88 on August 30, 2013, 07:51:28 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on August 30, 2013, 03:21:16 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 30, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Post by: stewcamp on September 03, 2013, 11:03:01 AM
Post by: chukarchaser on September 04, 2013, 01:30:53 PM
Post by: JLS on September 04, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
Typical WDFW!! My question to add to this is..If this drug stays in their system for 30 days and makes the meat non-consumable, how does it effect any potential calves that bull fathers?????????? I'm sure WDFW says it has NO effect to a fetus.
Well, if the meat is safe for consumption after 30 days, wouldn't you think that by the time the bull's sperm got to an ovulated egg, fertilized it, and the calf was born that the drug would have gone through quite a few half lives?