Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 12, 2013, 05:08:05 AM
Post by: huntnnw on September 12, 2013, 05:09:49 AM
Post by: MLhunter1 on September 12, 2013, 06:07:18 AM
Post by: Rooster1981 on September 12, 2013, 06:30:50 AM
Its not just bowhunters. Guys shooting 1,000 plus yds with rifles barely capable of shooting 200 yds accurately, ML guys goin out to 300. Happens in all seasons.
I agree, especially when animal movement is slow. Some guys just don't hold back and will shoot at any distance because this might be the only chance they get. I don't really know what the answer is to fix the problem. As far as archery goes, I know some states have a archery class to take before you can get a tag. Maybe that's what wash needs :dunno:
Post by: RadSav on September 12, 2013, 06:58:22 AM
Its not just bowhunters. Guys shooting 1,000 plus yds with rifles barely capable of shooting 200 yds accurately, ML guys goin out to 300. Happens in all seasons.
I agree, especially when animal movement is slow. Some guys just don't hold back and will shoot at any distance because this might be the only chance they get. I don't really know what the answer is to fix the problem. As far as archery goes, I know some states have a archery class to take before you can get a tag. Maybe that's what wash needs :dunno:
Oh please no! Do drivers tests make drunk drivers more responsible? Stupid is as stupid does and no lame archery class full of phony baloney is going to make these guys any less stupid. I don't see where government mandated education about things the government doesn't have a clue about will change a thing. That would be like the US Congress trying to mandate classes on how to balance a check book. :o
Some guys are just having some bad luck this year too. Two of the stories I've read on H-W this year sound like the hunters did just about everything right. They felt bad and gave 110% at trying to recover their animals. It happens to the best of us sooner or later. Social media just makes it too dang easy for bad news to travel. I understand guys wanting to find comfort and support here since we are a tight family. So I really have a hard time saying anything negative about the majority of the posts so far. If the weather was better and the hunter success was stronger this year these posts would get drown out rather quickly. Just a bad early season to be having a bad day I think :dunno:
I know a good number of animals that have been taken so far this year as well. But most of these guys have raced right in to hunting for their other tags. I expect after this weekend the good stories and pictures should start making their way on here. And then the bad luck stories will be forgotten.
Post by: stw on September 12, 2013, 07:03:06 AM
Sorting are seasons Idaho, org. Montana longer
Season to hunt. people dont have to go out in those states
And just fling arrows and lead. People taking long
Shots if they practice and can do it then do it
And if you dont practice i feel you have no right on taking
that kind of shot iv shot elk with a bow from 15 feet to 80 yards
But i practice a lot out to 8o . For the bow class to hunt with
With a bow i dont think that will change anything people will
keep send arrows at elk. Elk make people crazy they will do
Anything they can to get one.
Post by: olypen archer on September 12, 2013, 07:26:17 AM
Post by: cryder on September 12, 2013, 08:18:57 AM
Post by: stw on September 12, 2013, 08:38:08 AM
Went no farther then 45 yards . Ill im saying is if your.
Gear isn't set up for it don't do it if it is then shoot
Im not saying im perfect. Iv lost one before its not a good feeling
And it was the closest shoot ever. It happens to everyone
I gess. I just dont go out and fling arrows. I practice
Hard and if everything perfect and a bull walks out at 80
yards broad side im taking it
Post by: dreamingbig on September 12, 2013, 08:49:18 AM
:yeah:I have seen many elk hit the dirt this year so far
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My elk hit the dirt after 40 yards and 8 seconds. He couldn't tote the heart shot. I also saw many others with similar results. I think the bad stories are the only ones being told.
Post by: boneaddict on September 12, 2013, 08:57:03 AM
Fire closures, July like weather, are all contributing factors.
Post by: cryder on September 12, 2013, 09:17:23 AM
Post by: CamoDup on September 12, 2013, 09:37:39 AM
I have seen very few elk hit the dirt this year so far
:yeah:.
:yeah:
My elk hit the dirt after 40 yards and 8 seconds. He couldn't tote the heart shot. I also saw many others with similar results. I think the bad stories are the only ones being told.
:yeah: Our camp had 5 elk down in 5 days. Best early season we have ever had! A lot of people are successful that don't share their stories. Sometimes I'm one of them. And like what was said before the guys that have wounded an animal are turning to the forum to get some help and tips from members. Negative comments are unacceptable in my opinion.
Post by: PolarBear on September 12, 2013, 09:50:29 AM
I have heard of more poaching going on this year than ever. I know several guys who have caught others trying to kill elk several days before the season opened. A couple of our local bulls were killed illegally. One at night on private land and the other by trespassing onto newly leased Weyco land by guys that did not hold the lease. A buddy of mine busted a dude that was at full draw on a cow in a closed unit. Another caught a group of guys in pick up trucks way back in a closed off area hunting. I also have heard of close to a dozen guys wounding and losing elk. This crap is getting out of control! It seems that hunter ethics are a thing of the past. I am sick and tired of hearing over and over again after someone loses yet another bull, " s- happens" or " it happens to every bowhunter eventually". Actually, no it does not! If anything is going to kill hunting in this state it is these poaching yayhoos and slob "hunters"!
Post by: vandeman17 on September 12, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 12, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
I have seen very few elk hit the dirt this year so far+1
Post by: bracer40 on September 12, 2013, 01:07:28 PM
I have seen very few elk hit the dirt this year so far
:yeah:.
:yeah:
My elk hit the dirt after 40 yards and 8 seconds. He couldn't tote the heart shot. I also saw many others with similar results. I think the bad stories are the only ones being told.
:yeah: Our camp had 5 elk down in 5 days. Best early season we have ever had! A lot of people are successful that don't share their stories. Sometimes I'm one of them. And like what was said before the guys that have wounded an animal are turning to the forum to get some help and tips from members. Negative comments are unacceptable in my opinion.
Due to fire closures we had a difficult time getting into our usual areas that we know very well. Like Camodup we're usually close to 50% success rate in our camp in the first couple of days. This year we only hit 25%...........it was tough hunting...but we can all look forward to the late season where we usually bring our rate up to around 75% or so.......
Post by: Sneekee23 on September 13, 2013, 11:46:53 AM
Post by: Elk whack master on September 15, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
Post by: Jellymon on September 15, 2013, 08:37:12 PM
Why is there 3 tags and one hunter? What happened to the other tags? :dunno: please explain. I don't understand. Did I muss something...
He's saying that anti-hunters could have bought the tags and not hunted to protect the elk.
Post by: Alan K on September 15, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
Post by: Elk whack master on September 15, 2013, 08:54:10 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 15, 2013, 08:54:49 PM
the two we killed in camp this year did the same thing. Dead on their feet. I heard mine takeits last breath as did my buddy.:yeah:I have seen many elk hit the dirt this year so far
:yeah:.
My elk hit the dirt after 40 yards and 8 seconds. He couldn't tote the heart shot. I also saw many others with similar results. I think the bad stories are the only ones being told.