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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Turkeyslammer on September 13, 2013, 10:42:24 AM

Title: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Turkeyslammer on September 13, 2013, 10:42:24 AM: Just purchased a knight bighorn 50cal and was wondering which load would be the best with 100gr pyrodex powder?
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Skillet on September 13, 2013, 10:56:01 AM: Think you got yer cart before yer horse, pard....

What are you hunting? That's quite a spread of weight you're talking. Pick the best range of bullets that suits your needs, then start working up loads of differenet powder charges, using accuracy, then speed, as your guide. You should look at saboted and non-saboted loads that work well in your gun. Should be a lot of data on that nice rig you got there.

Good luck-
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Sabotloader on September 13, 2013, 11:00:31 AM: Quote from: Turkeyslammer on September 13, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
Just purchased a knight bighorn 50cal and was wondering which load would be the best with 100gr pyrodex powder?

Personally I would go find a box of Speer .452-300 grain Deep Curls - IMO a much better bullet than either of the two you have mentioned...
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: hillbilli on September 13, 2013, 11:05:27 AM: i've done well with 300gr XTP. seen quite a few deer and hogs taken with it. I think the GD (deep curl) is a better bullet, but its usually harder to find and a little more expensive.
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on September 13, 2013, 05:37:21 PM: I love the PR duplex dead centers. Daughters muzzy grouped great with the 175gr. Hunting partner shoots the 195gr. The 195's have the better B.C. if you're concerned with distance. The dead centers are made for pass through on the shot. From experience I can say they do, even between 100 and 200 yards.
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 13, 2013, 05:44:21 PM: Love the dead centers. Killed many deer with them and never had any problems. Have heard more then a few bad claims with the xtp's but I shot them in my hunting handguns and they worked fine.
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Soady on September 13, 2013, 10:12:52 PM: Quote from: Skillet on September 13, 2013, 10:56:01 AM
Think you got yer cart before yer horse, pard....

What are you hunting? That's quite a spread of weight you're talking. Pick the best range of bullets that suits your needs, then start working up loads of different powder charges, using accuracy, then speed, as your guide. You should look at saboted and non-saboted loads that work well in your gun. Should be a lot of data on that nice rig you got there.

Good luck-
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As stated not only do you have the cart before the horse you actually have oranges and apples on the cart and it is tipping over. Two different breeds of bullets here: example 105 grains difference between the two, two different bullet weights, two different ballistic coefficients, same powder charge, how about the cap? Powder selection can make all the difference with each bullet weight. Will you hunt open country or dense brush, or mixed, size of game small game deer or big game elk.

I look at muzzle load hunting as a great big experiment in hand loading for each species of game I am pursuing each having its own set of parameters attached to the muzzle loader bullet, powder, and cap.
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Turkeyslammer on September 16, 2013, 08:33:49 AM: I had a package of the 195 grain dead centers and found the XTP's at sportsman's on clearance for $8.00 so I thought I would try them. I'm hunting mule deer in open country range around 100 to 150 yards.
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: CP on September 16, 2013, 08:45:38 AM: I haven’t tried the 195g DC but it seems too light to me.

My Bighorn just loves the 300g 44 cal XTP, slightly less accurate with 300g 45 cal XTP but it still shoots pretty good groups with them.
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Turkeyslammer on September 16, 2013, 11:22:12 AM: Thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: Hornady xtp 300gr or precission dead center 195gr
Post by: Patarero on September 16, 2013, 09:46:26 PM: My 50 cal knight wolverine likes 44-300g hp/xtp with 100 gr of 777 powder.