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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Bookworm007 on September 23, 2013, 09:17:49 PM

Title: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Bookworm007 on September 23, 2013, 09:17:49 PM: Made a sad realization today....... My favorite deer hunting area is not available for general late season hunt :'( This is my first year muzzleloader hunting and was used to modern firearm where you get 3 weeks in the field between general and late. Not to start a cry baby thread but why do we get less opportunities? Archery gets the whole month of September plus a late season and we get just a week in lots of great deer country?
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: scottcrb on September 23, 2013, 09:23:17 PM: Agreed it sucks. Not a lot of options.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: bobcat on September 23, 2013, 09:45:30 PM: There are some good areas open for late deer. Just not very many. It's better than the elk units though. I think there aren't many units for muzzleloader because many are open for archery. There are more archery hunters so they get more units.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Mfowl on September 23, 2013, 09:50:06 PM: Us being the smallest user group (ML guys) seems that they could open more areas and have better opportunities without adding too much pressure or too much harvest. :twocents:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: deaner on September 23, 2013, 09:52:25 PM: muzzle loader hunters do have a couple of the only otc muley late hunts available
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: deaner on September 23, 2013, 09:53:28 PM: correction i just looked, archery has them too.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: smokepole hunter on September 23, 2013, 09:56:05 PM: I've been cussing about this topic for years now. Been hunting the black powder seasons for 15 yrs and nothing ever changes. You would think they would give the muzzle stuffer hunters more areas, since it's more challenging for us. It's not like we can knock one down at 300 yards like high powered. Preseason is the key to a successful hunt, since the season is so short.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 23, 2013, 10:03:45 PM: I hunted 113 with my charcoal-burner for quite a few years, but only hunted the early half of the season ONCE. At that time of the year the leaves are still on the trees and bushes and you can't see squat! I jumped an elk out of its bed, and never even saw it. Heard it running away, but never got a glimpse of it.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Bookworm007 on September 24, 2013, 01:15:31 PM: I agree it is rather lousy, why couldn't they let us hunt the late season with mod firearm? I know that doesn't really help with the disadvantage, but it would at least give us more time in the field. I am still very very excited for the opener this weekend!!!! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 24, 2013, 01:45:39 PM: Quote from: Heredoggydoggy on September 23, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
I hunted 113 with my charcoal-burner for quite a few years, but only hunted the early half of the season ONCE. At that time of the year the leaves are still on the trees and bushes and you can't see squat! I jumped an elk out of its bed, and never even saw it. Heard it running away, but never got a glimpse of it.

Yeah 113 is not like LT Murray :chuckle:

It's more of a sneak and peek, sit on a stump and wait type of unit
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: trophyhunt on September 24, 2013, 02:15:50 PM: Quote from: Mfowl on September 23, 2013, 09:50:06 PM
Us being the smallest user group (ML guys) seems that they could open more areas and have better opportunities without adding too much pressure or too much harvest. :twocents:
:yeah:late elk season really sucks for muzzy. I'm sure there are some sweet spots but no one talks about them, which I don't blame them considering most would go there?!?
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: The100Road on September 24, 2013, 02:53:32 PM: Quote from: Bookworm007 on September 24, 2013, 01:15:31 PM
I agree it is rather lousy, why couldn't they let us hunt the late season with mod firearm? I know that doesn't really help with the disadvantage, but it would at least give us more time in the field. I am still very very excited for the opener this weekend!!!! :IBCOOL:

you must be hunitng unit 407? you got me so excited for a minute. i thought i forgot what the date was.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: James E on September 24, 2013, 05:45:58 PM: 172 is excellent for the late hunt. The whitetail are usually in full rut. It is mostly private though.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Bookworm007 on September 24, 2013, 07:10:21 PM: Nope I am hunting Washougal, I put a lot of time on the boots this year so I am hoping it will pay off! :tup: I don't really want to drive to the east side for deer so looks like late season in Coweeman if I don't seal the deal this weekend! Maybe next year I will just pony up for the multi season tag and really have fun :)
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 24, 2013, 07:33:22 PM: All weapons should get the exact length of time to hunt. Disabled hunters get the worst areas to hunt with the shortest time allowed.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 24, 2013, 07:42:21 PM: Quote from: CAMPMEAT on September 24, 2013, 07:33:22 PM
All weapons should get the exact length of time to hunt. Disabled hunters get the worst areas to hunt with the shortest time allowed.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: bobcat on September 24, 2013, 10:00:59 PM: Disabled hunters? They don't really have their own season. They hunt the same general seasons as everybody else. With a few areas open for antlerless deer only for disabled hunters. So I'd say they have it pretty good.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: The100Road on September 25, 2013, 06:21:52 AM: Quote from: Bookworm007 on September 24, 2013, 07:10:21 PM
Nope I am hunting Washougal, I put a lot of time on the boots this year so I am hoping it will pay off! :tup: I don't really want to drive to the east side for deer so looks like late season in Coweeman if I don't seal the deal this weekend! Maybe next year I will just pony up for the multi season tag and really have fun :)

gotchya, deer.......... my mind automatically went to elk.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: splitshot on September 29, 2013, 06:19:15 PM: and deer and elk over 65 years have nothing, no permits. modern has a bunch. at least group us with modern. and of the 8 master hunters I know 6 have filled their elk tags. mike w
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 29, 2013, 07:26:09 PM: Quote from: bobcat on September 24, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
Disabled hunters? They don't really have their own season. They hunt the same general seasons as everybody else. With a few areas open for antlerless deer only for disabled hunters. So I'd say they have it pretty good.

Nope, it's horrible. I've even complained to the WDFW this year and they were surprised, ya right. They know exactly what they are doing. We get the crappiest areas to hunt, plus they've closed areas too. I gave back my deer tag for Chesaw this year.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: buckfvr on September 29, 2013, 07:30:30 PM: Quote from: Bookworm007 on September 23, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Made a sad realization today....... My favorite deer hunting area is not available for general late season hunt :'( This is my first year muzzleloader hunting and was used to modern firearm where you get 3 weeks in the field between general and late. Not to start a cry baby thread but why do we get less opportunities? Archery gets the whole month of September plus a late season and we get just a week in lots of great deer country?

Smallest user group.........
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: spikehunter on October 01, 2013, 04:49:41 PM: YUP :bash: that's typical of the state , more fees less oppurtunities
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: splitshot on November 03, 2013, 07:48:47 PM: correction , the 8 master hunters have all filled their elk tags. they hunt in sept. with rifles. there is something wrong with this picture that needs to be corrected and some get a second elk tag which is wrong also. please don't flame me to bad cuz I am not the only person who feels this way. mike w
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: oneshot12 on November 05, 2013, 06:54:52 PM: :tup: will go along with that as well
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Bookworm007 on November 05, 2013, 07:03:48 PM: Yeah WDFW seems to have taken the "life isn't fair" and made it their motto...... I just want to late buck hunt the same unit I early season hunt???
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Forrestrover.02 on November 09, 2013, 11:19:00 PM: I was really disappointed the first year I realized that unit 660 wasn't open for late muzzleloader. And I'm always frustrated with the fact that 460 isn't open in the early season.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Late Season
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on November 09, 2013, 11:42:50 PM: Last year I hunted Modern instead of Muzzleloader for the first time in years. Why? Because being over 65, there are extra days to hunt in the Modern season, and an either-sex opportunity. Could be the same for Archery hunters and Muzzleloader hunters, but it's not. This year I didn't even bother getting a Big Game License and tag. I'm done with big game hunting in this State. Seems like all WDFG thinks about is the money!