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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 01:47:26 PM

Title: Company to reload
Post by: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 01:47:26 PM: I have a .280 rem and looking to get my spent cases reloaded since factory loads in a .280 are average performance at best for whet the 280 can do. I used to have a guy in idaho reload my shells (since thats what his business did) but hes retired now. So now im looking for a nee company. I have found a couple on the net but was just wondering if anybody knew of one more local. I live in burbank south east washington. Within a couple of hundred miles would be nice but if some has a good rep would be willing to go out side of that distance.

Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: chrisb on October 01, 2013, 01:50:47 PM: Why not just buy a starter reloading kit and load them up yourself? This way you can experiment with different loads, or if you already know the loads you want you can have many more rounds made for the same price.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Special T on October 01, 2013, 01:54:51 PM: Bob Dites From Sedro Woolley does Custom reloading. Not really cheap but does it. His specialty is taking your gun, working up a load, and/or doing minor gunsmithing to get your gun and bullets shooting great. I don't remember exactly what it costs... Dites@wavecable.com
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 02:02:21 PM: Maybe it is a bit off topic. I always wanted to know why guys wanted to soup-up .280's? Why not just shoot a 7 mag? Another round in the magazine (never really needed it but whatever)? Non-belted cartridge? I have always wanted a .280, I am just wondering. Now, souping up a short action, I can understand that (7mm-08).
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 02:26:26 PM: Thanks for the replies so far.

I reload because I Dont have the time and dont really want to make the time to make sure i reload everything right, rather pay someone to do it for me.

The 280 is loaded on the light side for the semi autos still using this cal. I have heard the why didnt you buy a 7mm or 270 and part of it is because i really like what the 280 can do with a good load and i like that its not the same cartridge as everybody and their mom has. Plus a 280 load right will leave a 270 in the dust and make the 7mm work for its money if those are both loaded well.

Anyways yeah just looking for reputable companies to reload for me. Thanks again for the help
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 02:30:37 PM: I have always wanted a .280 too, just for that reason. In fact, I wanted a 7mm Express, they should have kept the name... Just wondering if I missed a practical reason.

Quote from: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 02:26:26 PM
Thanks for the replies so far.

I reload because I Dont have the time and dont really want to make the time to make sure i reload everything right, rather pay someone to do it for me.

The 280 is loaded on the light side for the semi autos still using this cal. I have heard the why didnt you buy a 7mm or 270 and part of it is because i really like what the 280 can do with a good load and i like that its not the same cartridge as everybody and their mom has. Plus a 280 load right will leave a 270 in the dust and make the 7mm work for its money if those are both loaded well.

Anyways yeah just looking for reputable companies to reload for me. Thanks again for the help
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Curly on October 01, 2013, 02:37:08 PM: Quote from: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
I have always wanted a .280 too, just for that reason. In fact, I wanted a 7mm Express, they should have kept the name... Just wondering if I missed a practical reason.

Quote from: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 02:26:26 PM
Thanks for the replies so far.

I reload because I Dont have the time and dont really want to make the time to make sure i reload everything right, rather pay someone to do it for me.

The 280 is loaded on the light side for the semi autos still using this cal. I have heard the why didnt you buy a 7mm or 270 and part of it is because i really like what the 280 can do with a good load and i like that its not the same cartridge as everybody and their mom has. Plus a 280 load right will leave a 270 in the dust and make the 7mm work for its money if those are both loaded well.

Anyways yeah just looking for reputable companies to reload for me. Thanks again for the help

The practical reason I think, is that the 280 doesn't kick as much as the 7 mag. And velocities are good enough to be flat enough shooting for most people out there. The cartridge I'm really intrigued by is the 280 AI. It is a very efficient cartridge.........almost 7 mag velocities with recoil very manageable. I think I'll have to get one someday. :twocents:
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 03:11:11 PM: I have heard the recoil argument, I just don't know if it is true or not? I have had a light '06 kick worse then any rifle I have had including a 300rum (no brake) and a 7mm Mag just to name two.

I think the reason the .280 doesnt' kick as much is beacuse it is typically loaded at lower velocities. Loaded up to 7mm pressures, it has to kick the same, it just has to physics wise, all things being the same.

Cool factor wise, I think the .280 beats them all though! :chuckle: I have been knocking around the idea of a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in .280 with a fixed 6x scope (not 100% sure on the scope) for awhile now. But, it goes against my promise not to buy any more factory guns.

Quote from: Curly on October 01, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
I have always wanted a .280 too, just for that reason. In fact, I wanted a 7mm Express, they should have kept the name... Just wondering if I missed a practical reason.

Quote from: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 02:26:26 PM
Thanks for the replies so far.

I reload because I Dont have the time and dont really want to make the time to make sure i reload everything right, rather pay someone to do it for me.

The 280 is loaded on the light side for the semi autos still using this cal. I have heard the why didnt you buy a 7mm or 270 and part of it is because i really like what the 280 can do with a good load and i like that its not the same cartridge as everybody and their mom has. Plus a 280 load right will leave a 270 in the dust and make the 7mm work for its money if those are both loaded well.

Anyways yeah just looking for reputable companies to reload for me. Thanks again for the help

The practical reason I think, is that the 280 doesn't kick as much as the 7 mag. And velocities are good enough to be flat enough shooting for most people out there. The cartridge I'm really intrigued by is the 280 AI. It is a very efficient cartridge.........almost 7 mag velocities with recoil very manageable. I think I'll have to get one someday. :twocents:
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Curly on October 01, 2013, 03:29:27 PM: 7 mag uses more powder so it kicks more than the .280 Rem or 280 ackley improved. If you had 3 rifles of the same model and weight, all shooting the same bullet weight.............one in 7 mm rem mag, one in .280 Ackley Improv, and one in .280 Rem, the recoil would be highest in the 7 mm mag, next would be the Ackley and then the .280 Rem because theoretically the mag would have more powder than the AI and the AI would be loaded with more powder than the standard 280. It's just physics.

I hope the OP doesn't mind a little thread jacking....... :)
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: JLS on October 01, 2013, 03:44:28 PM: Quote from: Curly on October 01, 2013, 03:29:27 PM
7 mag uses more powder so it kicks more than the .280 Rem or 280 ackley improved. If you had 3 rifles of the same model and weight, all shooting the same bullet weight.............one in 7 mm rem mag, one in .280 Ackley Improv, and one in .280 Rem, the recoil would be highest in the 7 mm mag, next would be the Ackley and then the .280 Rem because theoretically the mag would have more powder than the AI and the AI would be loaded with more powder than the standard 280. It's just physics.

I hope the OP doesn't mind a little thread jacking....... :)

:yeah:

Gotta compare apples to apples, like Curly said. Two different rifles will weigh differently, and likely have different stock shapes. Both of these will affect the felt recoil.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 03:55:57 PM: Yes, that's why you have to use something like power factor. Velocity X bullet weight. A .280 and 7mm loaded to the same power factor will produce the same recoil in the same rifle. So, why load a .280 to 7mm mag velocities? The cool factor, nothing wrong with that!
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Curly on October 01, 2013, 04:10:45 PM: I don't think you could load a .280 rem to 7 mm mag velocities...........(unless maybe you could if you were way too HOT)..... :dunno:

Even a .280 AI isn't going to reach 7 mm mag velocities..........can get close but not quite there. :twocents:
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: thinkingman on October 01, 2013, 04:12:46 PM: 280 heAdspaces on the shoulder and 7mag on the belt.
It's easier to get good, accuracy loads out of the 280.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 04:44:18 PM: Hey hi how you guys doin love talk going on here but um yeah still lookin for a reloader just sayin lol

But really if you guys are gonna talk about recoil then you only are talking about a very small part of the 280, look at your BC for almost any grain of the 280 compard to another caliber bang for you buck your getting for the most part the best out of 280. Not saying there isnt better but its imho one the most underrated bullet and yes factory 280 does kick less no matter what cuz it is loaded so light thru out the entire range of the grains of bullets. Hence why im looking for another custom loading company... You know the reason i started the thread :dunno:
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: hoyt2002 on October 01, 2013, 04:46:03 PM: If I recall there is a guy in Pendleton, or that does custom reloading.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 01, 2013, 04:54:43 PM: I have loaded a lot of .280 over the years ...I load for my best friends only but the problem right now is getting supplies ...I have buddies wanting stuff loaded but I do not want to let go what I have ...not much out there to choose from as far as getting the bullets you want :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: RadSav on October 01, 2013, 04:55:39 PM: I don't think they do reloading, but @ 3000 fps w/140 Accubonds the Nosler Trophy stuff is dang hard to beat! MSRP $46. I know they use to do custom loading as well, but I'm pretty sure that was done with Nosler components.

Nosler has standard offerings for the 280AI too! I think that buys you another 150 fps.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: jackelope on October 01, 2013, 05:02:17 PM: I have a .280 barrel for my Encore. Shooting the Hornady Superformance stuff it shoots great but kicks like a dang mule. Much harder than with the .300wm barrel but the 300 setup is 1.5# heavier.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Mike450r on October 01, 2013, 05:07:26 PM: Quote from: RadSav on October 01, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
I don't think they do reloading, but @ 3000 fps w/140 Accubonds the Nosler Trophy stuff is dang hard to beat! MSRP $46. I know they use to do custom loading as well, but I'm pretty sure that was done with Nosler components.

Nosler has standard offerings for the 280AI too! I think that buys you another 150 fps.

I second this opinion, you won't really improve much on velocity and getting the Nosler ammo will be quicker and easier than components and finding a person to load for you.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 07:41:23 PM: This is my fault. Someone says .280 and my wallet starts to open up on its own! Sorry. :chuckle:

Quote from: ffawjohnson on October 01, 2013, 04:44:18 PM
Hey hi how you guys doin love talk going on here but um yeah still lookin for a reloader just sayin lol

But really if you guys are gonna talk about recoil then you only are talking about a very small part of the 280, look at your BC for almost any grain of the 280 compard to another caliber bang for you buck your getting for the most part the best out of 280. Not saying there isnt better but its imho one the most underrated bullet and yes factory 280 does kick less no matter what cuz it is loaded so light thru out the entire range of the grains of bullets. Hence why im looking for another custom loading company... You know the reason i started the thread :dunno:
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Easy-E on October 01, 2013, 07:56:00 PM: I think there were some guys in downtown Kennewick (or maybe Big Pasco?) that were doing custom ammo loading as a business but I haven't heard anything about it for quite some time. Check the local gun shops, surely they would know if these guys are still in business.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2013, 07:56:37 PM: There is an old RCBS press on CL right now. It's old but it will do the job just fine. For about $100 or so you could be set up. He wants $60 for the press but I would offer him $25 (it's not worth $60), he has had it on there forever. You can use once fired brass from your rifle, just wipe them off, load them, and cycle them in your action to make sure they will cycle smooth. Use new brass if you want, they will be buttery smooth. You can get a scale for $30 or so. Dies $35. A sleeve of primers $3.50.

I know it's not what you want but I can't imagine there are many (legal) custom reloaders. I searched and really couldn't find anything.
Title: Re: Company to reload
Post by: Curly on October 03, 2013, 12:29:45 PM: Superformance ammo is a good suggestion by Jackelope.

If you're after faster velocity than other factory ammo, then that is probably your best option. Of course, you'll have to wait until sometime next spring to see if they shoot well in your rifle..........but then you'd likely have to wait a long time if you find someone to do custom loads since bullets and powder are so hard to find right now.

Here's a link: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/489740/hornady-superformance-ammunition-280-remington-139-grain-gilding-metal-expanding-boat-tail-box-of-20 (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/489740/hornady-superformance-ammunition-280-remington-139-grain-gilding-metal-expanding-boat-tail-box-of-20)