Post by: bowhunterforever on October 08, 2013, 12:52:25 AM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 08, 2013, 07:54:34 AM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on October 08, 2013, 08:05:34 AM
Post by: blacktailer on October 08, 2013, 08:37:11 AM
Post by: bowhunterforever on October 08, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
Lincoln Cliffs tag would be a fun one to draw. If you can get permission to hunt that is.Yea it would, I just need to draw a tag
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 08, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on October 08, 2013, 05:01:10 PM
Is that just a few miles above the Lincoln boat launch?Yea it's 2 or 3 miles
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 08, 2013, 05:07:29 PM
Those things can really roll quickly when they want to, a neighbor's dog gave chase and that thing stopped on a dime and chased him off :chuckle:
Good luck drawing the tag. That's the hardest part of that hunt. Not much hiking to do and those sheep are so used to people, it's ridiculous.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 08, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
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Post by: PlateauNDN on October 09, 2013, 07:30:05 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 09, 2013, 08:09:39 AM
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.
If a ram is 150-ish at 6.5 years old, how old is he going to be when he reaches 175-180?
Post by: Romulus on October 09, 2013, 08:38:43 PM
Post by: JLS on October 09, 2013, 08:41:28 PM
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.
If a ram is 150-ish at 6.5 years old, how old is he going to be when he reaches 175-180?
He would probably need to be 9.5 to 10.5 to reach 180.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 09, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
Looks like 6 1/2 to me harder to tell with the shade on his horns. I would guess 145-150 myself.
If a ram is 150-ish at 6.5 years old, how old is he going to be when he reaches 175-180?
A lot depends on genetics and how much the rams broom there horns. Which is where they rub down there tips and cut length off of there score. I am not a big horn expert but have scored and killed many exotic rams that are scored the same way and most of them don't broom. I cant remember if it's the rocky or cali sheep that broom the most. Some of the bighorn guys like bone or pope or phool could tell you I bet.
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 10, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
So by 5.5-6.5 years, a ram's potential is easy to judge?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on October 10, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
Post by: blacktailer on October 10, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
I basically have no sheep experience, so looking for some guidance here...wouldn't they generally score better after they lose the lamb tips because the mass measurements get moved back up the horn and make up for the lost length?
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The measurements do get pushed back indeed. Mass measurements are derived from dividing the "Longer" horn into quarters. A shorter more broomed back or broken horn ram will therefore have incresed mass measurements. It is not very common to see a mature ram that is lamb tipped. Romulus nailed in his quote. There are a lot of rams that will die of old age and never reachnever be a 170+ There are others that will hit 170+ as a 4 1/2 year old. These are in areas that have the genetics to produce heavy horned rams with basal measuremtns meeting or exceeding 16"