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Post by: RadSav on October 12, 2013, 10:42:26 PM
I'm tired of pumpkins running all around me in my secret spots, thinking about switching to Muzzy.
Apparently not too secret :chuckle:
I see where you are coming from. Took the wife out this morning, get set into our spot, and as the sun rises we see about 10 pumpkins sprout up all around us. Leave for spot #2. Pass about 30 trucks on the way there. Get there and don't even get all the way in we see at lest a half dozen pumpkin on the ridge. OK, time for super secret, very remote, never seen a track in our little 50 yard diameter late hunt spot. Hike in to find five pumpkins surrounding the little 50 yard diameter spot. Someone would probably get shot if a deer actually made it through the orange fence and into the open. By noon we were 100 miles away in the Toutle. Far fewer deer in the Toutle, but hunted the whole afternoon, saw more flat tops than hunters. Which is cool in my book!
With this multiseason deer tag being a lock that past few years we plan on getting at least one muzzy next year too. And like you...we know nothing about them. Should be fun learning something new.
Good luck to you. And for the rest of this season remember...a day hunting, even a day spent with 2,000 pumpkin heads, is better than a day at work. And, I love my job!
Post by: Rooster1981 on October 13, 2013, 06:50:01 AM
I hunt with a investarms hawkens by cabelas. Investarms is made by Lyman & Lyman makes really nice well built rifles. + 1 for track of the wolf website. I use them alot as well.
Post by: lee on October 13, 2013, 07:21:14 AM
The only difference in modern and muzzy season is you just wont see them all over your honey hole since they are wearing camo... they're still there :chuckle:
Sorry but I have to disagree, ..... at least not in the Bumping or Nile. Muzzy hunters may wear Camo but their trucks don't and I don't see 1% the Rigs as you do during Modern.
Yer milage may vary,
Lee
Post by: Hangfire on October 13, 2013, 07:28:32 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 13, 2013, 07:35:57 AM
The only difference in modern and muzzy season is you just wont see them all over your honey hole since they are wearing camo... they're still there :chuckle:
Sorry but I have to disagree, ..... at least not in the Bumping or Nile. Muzzy hunters may wear Camo but their trucks don't and I don't see 1% the Rigs as you do during Modern.
Yer milage may vary,
Lee
Thanks for the muzzy hot spot! Can't wait to start scouting it out. :tup: :yeah:
Post by: Sagebrushwilly on October 13, 2013, 08:28:18 AM
I hunt with a investarms hawkens by cabelas. Investarms is made by Lyman & Lyman makes really nice well built rifles. + 1 for track of the wolf website. I use them alot as well.
Actually Lyman rifles are made by Investarms, not the other way around.
Post by: Bookworm007 on October 13, 2013, 08:34:28 AM
I will say that in my unit I did not see any other hunter for the entire season which was spectacular. Unfortunately muzzleloader is only a 1 week season in my unit with no late season. So check the regs make sure that you will get enough time in the woods.
Post by: Jellymon on October 13, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
I just started muzzleloading this year and let me tell you depending on where you hunt it can be a challenge, you effective range is shortened down to about 10 yards, if it rains where you hunt you get the lovely joy of trying to keep your powder and cap dry, and most of all when considering a muzzleloader remember how often you have to clean it. If you don't clean it after every session of shooting it will corrode up into a useless steel pipe. Also the newer muzzleloader designs often allow a removeable breech plug making cleaning much easier. :twocents:
I will say that in my unit I did not see any other hunter for the entire season which was spectacular. Unfortunately muzzleloader is only a 1 week season in my unit with no late season. So check the regs make sure that you will get enough time in the woods.
10yds! I must not be a very ethical hunter because I've shot ten times that far with my muzzie. :chuckle:
Post by: usmc74 on October 13, 2013, 04:04:38 PM
My muzzy holds a 3" group at 200 yards.
Post by: Bookworm007 on October 13, 2013, 04:15:58 PM
I just started muzzleloading this year and let me tell you depending on where you hunt it can be a challenge, you effective range is shortened down to about 10 yards, if it rains where you hunt you get the lovely joy of trying to keep your powder and cap dry, and most of all when considering a muzzleloader remember how often you have to clean it. If you don't clean it after every session of shooting it will corrode up into a useless steel pipe. Also the newer muzzleloader designs often allow a removeable breech plug making cleaning much easier. :twocents:
I will say that in my unit I did not see any other hunter for the entire season which was spectacular. Unfortunately muzzleloader is only a 1 week season in my unit with no late season. So check the regs make sure that you will get enough time in the woods.
10yds! I must not be a very ethical hunter because I've shot ten times that far with my muzzie. :chuckle:
My bad I meant to type 100 yards. At least that is what I have been told. With more practice and experimentation with loads I'm sure you could extend that distance. :sry:
Post by: Rooster1981 on October 13, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
I hunt with a investarms hawkens by cabelas. Investarms is made by Lyman & Lyman makes really nice well built rifles. + 1 for track of the wolf website. I use them alot as well.
Actually Lyman rifles are made by Investarms, not the other way around.
Ahh damn I had it backwards, anyways thay are very nice rifles.
Post by: Hilltop123 on October 13, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 13, 2013, 04:50:37 PM
And don't believe the rumors of muzzy seasons being crowded. Especially the late seasons. We used to hunt Lincoln Cr for late muzzy season and would rarely run into other hunters. Still go out with my dad as his designated hunter and competition is negligible.
Post by: Rooster1981 on October 13, 2013, 05:11:54 PM
Is there anyplace on this big wide web, to find out how many muzzy tags are sold, in Wa. ? Compared to the other weapons?
Statewide General Season
Deer Harvest Statistics 2012
Weapon Type Deer Tags Purchased Deer Hunters Antlered Harvest Antlerless Harvest Total Harvest Hunter Success
Archery 23,651 19,395 2,898 2,255 5,153 26.6%
Modern Firearm 109,385 88,516 21,811 2,114 23,925 27%
Muzzleloader 9,621 7,542 1,499 567 2,066 27.4%
Statewide Total 142,657 115,453 26,208 4,936 31,144 27%
Deer Harvest Statistics 2012
Weapon Type Deer Tags Purchased Deer Hunters Antlered Harvest Antlerless Harvest Total Harvest Hunter Success
Archery 23,651 19,395 2,898 2,255 5,153 26.6%
Modern Firearm 109,385 88,516 21,811 2,114 23,925 27%
Muzzleloader 9,621 7,542 1,499 567 2,066 27.4%
Statewide Total 142,657 115,453 26,208 4,936 31,144 27%
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Post by: RadSav on October 14, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
Sorry, just had to vent! It was horrible up there.
Post by: RG on October 14, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
Track of the wolf web site has tons of build your own kits. They have a lot more then the ones you see at all the big stores.
First of all, great idea to switch to black powder. I hunted a week this year and saw nobody in the woods. I like Track of the Wolf products but it may be a little more ambitious of a project than a beginning muzzleloader shooter wants to tackle. I've also had good luck with Lyman or Thompson Center guns on the factory built, traditional side of things. The Lyman Great Plains Rifle is a little more authentic in styling. My gun is a Track of the Wolf flintlock, it was the third gun I've built from Track of the Wolf parts. It took about a year to finish though. I've killed 3 elk and 3 mule deer with it, missed this year but that was me not the gun.
In-line guns work fine but there's something a lot more satisfying about using traditional ones.
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Post by: Ibcnurun on October 14, 2013, 10:05:05 PM
After spending a few days in the Toutle I believe to muzzy elk hunt, regardless of gun, you have to drink Bush Lite beer. It must be a requirement or something. I'm also starting to believe that it is a requirement that no muzzy elk hunter is allowed to take their Bush Lite empties out of the woods. :dunno: Usually one must travel the Chiwawa to find this much trash in the woods. >:( Next weekend we will be bringing extra Hefty bags with us. Might take us longer to pick up beer cans than we will get time to hunt.Thanks for doing that. This was my 2nd year MZ Elk hunting the Umatanum. What a zoo...almost comical how many beer cans and how much TP I stumbled upon. Except for the TP, I do end up picking-up after others.
Sorry, just had to vent! It was horrible up there.
Post by: Soady on October 14, 2013, 10:55:56 PM
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After spending a few days in the Toutle I believe to muzzy elk hunt, regardless of gun, you have to drink Bush Lite beer. It must be a requirement or something. I'm also starting to believe that it is a requirement that no muzzy elk hunter is allowed to take their Bush Lite empties out of the woods.Our group spent the entire week on the early muzzy cow season up the Toutle 4100/4200/3000 and most all of the spurs on the side and never saw a Busch beer can anywhere much less any beer cans. I think the reason was we were looking for cow elk and not beer cans though we did get one cow and we killed most our Busch cans at camp.
Just sayin :dunno: anyone be it archers/muzzy/ modern/scouting parties/or just people as in brush pickers, bough cutters, treeplanters, loggers, truck drivers, archers, modern rifle scouts, and the city folks out for a drive, no need to place the entire blame of Busch beer cans being tossed out on the side of the roads on the muzzy guys. I have scouted that area since June both high and low and I can't say for sure it is entirely 100% muzzy hunters trashing the Toutle with beer cans. Just sayin :dunno:
Nate,
Lyman makes a great round ball traditonal rifle in a .50 which I loved hunting with for many years. It was a good looking rifle although a bit on the heavy side. T/C makes a great .50 carbine which is a lot lighter and handles nicely. I now shoot a Knight Bighorn and absolutely love the way it handles/shoots/breaks down for cleaning over the traditional muzzle loaders, however, to each his own with a choice of traditional or modern.
Post by: RadSav on October 15, 2013, 12:12:43 AM
Our group spent the entire week on the early muzzy cow season up the Toutle 4100/4200/3000 and most all of the spurs on the side and never saw a Busch beer can anywhere much less any beer cans.
You must have been looking for elk REALLY HARD :chuckle: But I don't think all those showed up between sunset on Friday and 11 A.M. on Saturday. Just too dang many of them.
Good to hear you were successful. That sure is a fun hunt when you can get drawn. Too bad the muzzy guys don't get a late hunt in the snow with that tag when 200 rifle hunters and 80 bowhunters do. You'd all have surely filled your tags spending that much time in there if you had some December or January dates.
Post by: RG on October 15, 2013, 09:34:46 AM