Post by: alchemyforge on October 30, 2008, 09:57:40 AM
Post by: bowhuntin on October 30, 2008, 04:06:52 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on October 30, 2008, 04:47:56 PM
Post by: alchemyforge on October 30, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
Thanks
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on October 30, 2008, 09:26:57 PM
Post by: bowsandhose on October 31, 2008, 09:15:00 AM
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Maybe they should outlaw the hunters thats dont know thier own abilities.......maybe WA should require bow hunters Ed like some of the other states :twocents:
Post by: Intruder on October 31, 2008, 09:46:57 AM
Also, never seen any animal hit properly with a good broadhead survive. As such I'm not sure how these would really offer an advantage.
Post by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on October 31, 2008, 10:25:10 AM
I dont think that woukld do much........ we have hunter ed and that doesnt stop idiots from going in the woods when they never should.........QuoteMaybe they should outlaw the hunters thats dont know thier own abilities.......maybe WA should require bow hunters Ed like some of the other states :twocents:
Post by: bowsandhose on October 31, 2008, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: Bscman on October 31, 2008, 04:12:42 PM
I'm pretty new to bowhunting and I've never used expandables but from what I've been told by folks I trust, expandables don't perform as well on bigger game. Supposedly they fly great, one of the major reasons guys like them, but may not penetrated due to structural failures. Take that with a grain of salt.... I have no first hand experience. It seems plausible though just based on it's something mechanical vs. something solid.... mechanical by it's very nature has to have more potential points of failure.
+1
Also, a lot of energy is dumped to get them to open as well.
With todys modern, "excessive power" bows this isn't much of an issue...but drop the poundage to 45lbs like many women/kids shoot, or throw in a traditional bow, and you've got penetration problems....especially on angled shots.
For the most part, expandables are only around becuase many people are too lazy to properly tune their bow...They really have no benefit other than they may fly a bit better than fixed blades on an un-tuned bow....but some of the new expanding heads do have some massive cutting diameters.
The new expanding heads are much better than the early designs, but I still think WDFW has it right by banning them on big game. :twocents:
Post by: brokenbone on November 05, 2008, 11:03:59 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 07, 2008, 11:33:08 AM
Post by: DeKuma on November 07, 2008, 11:39:59 AM
Unbroken towards the fletch (away from point) is okay, but angled away from fletch (toward point) is illegal.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 09, 2008, 04:43:46 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 12, 2008, 12:59:19 PM
I stand by my first statement AWAY FROM FLETCH, towards point is NOT barbedthink about it... if the line goes back toward the point that makes a hook or barb at the back of the head. if it angles back to the fletch there is no hook or barb.
Post by: DeKuma on November 12, 2008, 01:05:16 PM
It is
unlawful to hunt with a broadhead blade
unless the broadhead is unbarbed and
completely closed to the back end of the
blade or blades by a smooth, unbroken
surface starting at maximum blade width
forming a smooth line toward the feather
end of the shaft and such line does not
angle toward the point. Retractable styled
broadheads are illegal.
Post by: EastWaViking on November 12, 2008, 01:14:35 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 13, 2008, 08:15:19 AM
Post by: GoldTip on November 13, 2008, 08:29:57 AM
Post by: Intruder on November 13, 2008, 08:39:35 AM
I simply see no reason to shoot expandables. Just one more mechanical piece of equipment that can fail. Some people have used them with very good results on all sizes of game, in fact I read an article recently by Chuck Adams stating he used some form of Mechanical broadhead on all five animals he killed the previous year, and I think we can rest assured old Chuck has got enough experience with game and archery to know what he should or shouldn't use. For me however, a well tuned bow and good form and lots of practice makes using mechanicals simply an exercise I don't need. Mechanicals in my book are predominantly used by people who don't take the time needed to get consistent broadhead flight with a fixed blade broadhead. They simply are not something I would risk an animals life on when using a fixed blade takes the "opening up" failure out of the question.well said!
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 13, 2008, 10:40:49 AM