Post by: Big_bad_mulies on October 15, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
Post by: thom9719 on October 15, 2013, 07:06:23 PM
Post by: turbo on October 15, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
Post by: quacksmoker on October 15, 2013, 07:54:56 PM
Painful....
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Post by: rudedawg1085 on October 16, 2013, 09:11:28 AM
Sounds like you need to go to the range and/or chill out. This isn't a video game, don't just sling lead at an animal.
Or scope is off, or hit a branch, etc,....we have all missed shots in our day. On the range ill hit the bulls eye 100% of the time. I wish i could say the same out in the field.
Just take deep breaths BigBadMulies! you will get em next time!!
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 16, 2013, 10:21:41 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 16, 2013, 11:24:16 AM
Post by: wafisherman on October 16, 2013, 01:50:04 PM
Also, mind sharing the general area you are hunting? I'm thinking I need to NOT be around when those bullets start flying next time :yike:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 16, 2013, 01:51:20 PM
Post by: CMG on October 16, 2013, 02:31:55 PM
Keep at it, just heed some of their advice, be quick to think about the actual shot, but slow to pull the trigger. Could you have tracked the animal instead of pulling the trigger? allowing you to have the advantage? I would check your scope, seriously.
We all have learned our own ways and in our own time, sometimes the hardway.
Post by: wafisherman on October 16, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
Ah to be 17 again, Don't take this the wrong way. I believe you're post about you and you grandfathers hunt were written with the best intentions, but will be read and interpreted by others (As shown by posts above) differently.
Keep at it, just heed some of their advice, be quick to think about the actual shot, but slow to pull the trigger. Could you have tracked the animal instead of pulling the trigger? allowing you to have the advantage? I would check your scope, seriously.
We all have learned our own ways and in our own time, sometimes the hardway.
:yeah:
Also, I purposely load each round manually. Makes you slow down and think since you will likely only have one shot at any give critter. Bullets flying scenarios just have more downside than upside. Possibly even tragic results.
Post by: boneaddict on October 16, 2013, 03:46:43 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on October 16, 2013, 03:52:29 PM
Ever watch someone get so excited they unload their whole magazine without "firing" a shot.
Yes, I had a buddy do that on his first attempt at a deer (3 point muley) back in the 80's. He had a lever action 30-30. I watched him empty his gun without firing. He just kept jacking shells. After he was done I stared at him for a second with a perplexed look, then dropped the buck. I don't think he ever hunted again.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 16, 2013, 04:26:32 PM
Ah to be 17 again, Don't take this the wrong way. I believe you're post about you and you grandfathers hunt were written with the best intentions, but will be read and interpreted by others (As shown by posts above) differently.
Keep at it, just heed some of their advice, be quick to think about the actual shot, but slow to pull the trigger. Could you have tracked the animal instead of pulling the trigger? allowing you to have the advantage? I would check your scope, seriously.
We all have learned our own ways and in our own time, sometimes the hardway.
Well (and gently) put. I didn't have a ton of guidance as a young hunter. I might have reacted the same way 30 years ago...
Post by: Big_bad_mulies on October 16, 2013, 04:55:41 PM
first time ever using this rifle and yes the scope was most likely off! Going back over this weekend to hopefully seal the deal with a buck!Sounds like you need to go to the range and/or chill out. This isn't a video game, don't just sling lead at an animal.
Or scope is off, or hit a branch, etc,....we have all missed shots in our day. On the range ill hit the bulls eye 100% of the time. I wish i could say the same out in the field.
Just take deep breaths BigBadMulies! you will get em next time!!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 16, 2013, 04:56:51 PM
first time ever using this rifle and yes the scope was most likely off! Going back over this weekend to hopefully seal the deal with a buck!Sounds like you need to go to the range and/or chill out. This isn't a video game, don't just sling lead at an animal.
Or scope is off, or hit a branch, etc,....we have all missed shots in our day. On the range ill hit the bulls eye 100% of the time. I wish i could say the same out in the field.
Just take deep breaths BigBadMulies! you will get em next time!!
Not to open up a can of worms here, but did how much did you shoot it before the season began?
Post by: Big_bad_mulies on October 16, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Sounds like you need to go to the range and/or chill out. This isn't a video game, don't just sling lead at an animal.you act like it was a montage of crazy shots
Post by: Big_bad_mulies on October 16, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
well my rifle is on point, always shoot great with it, but due to it having to stay here with a gunsmith fixing it, I had to use my grandpas extra rifle and I never got the time to get some practice with it or anythingfirst time ever using this rifle and yes the scope was most likely off! Going back over this weekend to hopefully seal the deal with a buck!Sounds like you need to go to the range and/or chill out. This isn't a video game, don't just sling lead at an animal.
Or scope is off, or hit a branch, etc,....we have all missed shots in our day. On the range ill hit the bulls eye 100% of the time. I wish i could say the same out in the field.
Just take deep breaths BigBadMulies! you will get em next time!!
Not to open up a can of worms here, but did how much did you shoot it before the season began?
Post by: Big_bad_mulies on October 16, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 16, 2013, 05:31:35 PM
And for everyone else that thinks I was just shooting like a mad man, I was not, all shots hit the empty hill side, I wouldn't ever shoot like that into the open, I know better than that.
Well, it's good to know that you were not putting anyone else in danger. Try not to be offended here, but honestly, you probably should not have been hunting with a rifle that you had never shot. I coach a high school rifle team and I can tell you without question that just because a rifle is sighted in to someone else, it is rarely sighted in for you as well. We all are built differently, see differently etc... My dead-center zero at 100 yards may be two inches low and left for you. At 300 yards being that far off is enough to gut-shoot something that you were aiming at the shoulder on.
Also, a word about shooting at running targets. I spent 21 years in the Army, and I can tell you that it takes a lot of time and practice to hit something that is running. I used to be able to do it pretty well with an M16, but I don't try it anymore because I don't do it enough. I get shots at running deer. Instead of blasting away at something I might wind up wounding, I sit down, flip out the legs on my bipod, find the deer in the scope and wait for him to slow down or stop. I would rather take a 300 yard shot at a standing deer than a 50 yard shot at a running one.
Sorry, don't mean to preach at you. As has been said earlier, most of us had to learn this stuff the hard way too... Just trying to help.
Post by: CMG on October 17, 2013, 07:28:52 AM
Another thing to note: Typically, but not always, mule deer will stop and turn to see what spooked them, 100 to 300 Yrds out. use those few seconds to position youself for a good shot. you will only get one. If you don't get that shot, tracking, wind, and some knowledge about how deer behave when being chased by their predators are useful knowledge to be successful.
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Ever watch someone get so excited they unload their whole magazine without "firing" a shot.
Alot of truth their!
Post by: hogsniper on October 17, 2013, 07:42:08 AM
Post by: TheHunt on October 17, 2013, 08:02:13 AM
Only take 1/20 of any of these responses. This site is notorious for internet police, internet saints, etc...
I enjoyed your story thanks for sharing...
Post by: MLBowhunting on October 17, 2013, 08:30:46 AM
Post by: bearhunter99 on October 17, 2013, 08:45:12 AM
I also agree with Pathfinder. I have always broken in and sighted my wife and daughter's guns, but they always had to adjust them to bring them to center for their shooting style. For whatever reason my wife pretty consistently shoots about 2" right and 1" higher than I do when shooting the same gun :dunno: :dunno:
Keep at it and remember to breathe!
Post by: bradslam on October 17, 2013, 09:10:32 AM
Big_bad_mulies,
Only take 1/20 of any of these responses. This site is notorious for internet police, internet saints, etc...
I enjoyed your story thanks for sharing...
Some would call it internet police, some would call it constructive criticism. Most of the posts I see on here are very politely trying to educate. For instance, Pathfinder is providing the experience of a 21 year career in the Army and of a coach of a high school rifle team. Why not learn from his experience, instead of dismissing him as an "internet saint?"
One glaring thing that stood out to me in the story was that he apparently didn't follow up his shot. Don't assume that you missed just because the animal runs away and you saw dirt flying above it on subsequent shots. It's possible that the dirt flying is from the impact of the bullet after it passes through the animal. Always try to trail the animal to look for evidence of a hit. Sometimes there is no evidence at the site where they were shot, but farther down the trail blood will appear. The shots from over the ridge could have been from a completely different animal. Once, I jumped a huge 4-point and couldn't get a good shot. A minute or two later, I heard a shot from the direction it went. Dejectedly, I hiked that direction to see what I had missed out on. I found a hunter standing over a 2-point who told me that just after he shot his buck, the biggest buck that he had ever seen came running by.
There are lots of years of experience on this site and also some people that don't have a clue. The only thing you can do is take it all in, critically think about the information, and use what works for you. Good luck.
Post by: boneaddict on October 17, 2013, 11:26:08 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 17, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
Big_bad_mulies,
Only take 1/20 of any of these responses. This site is notorious for internet police, internet saints, etc...
I enjoyed your story thanks for sharing...
Some would call it internet police, some would call it constructive criticism. Most of the posts I see on here are very politely trying to educate. For instance, Pathfinder is providing the experience of a 21 year career in the Army and of a coach of a high school rifle team. Why not learn from his experience, instead of dismissing him as an "internet saint?"
One glaring thing that stood out to me in the story was that he apparently didn't follow up his shot. Don't assume that you missed just because the animal runs away and you saw dirt flying above it on subsequent shots. It's possible that the dirt flying is from the impact of the bullet after it passes through the animal. Always try to trail the animal to look for evidence of a hit. Sometimes there is no evidence at the site where they were shot, but farther down the trail blood will appear. The shots from over the ridge could have been from a completely different animal. Once, I jumped a huge 4-point and couldn't get a good shot. A minute or two later, I heard a shot from the direction it went. Dejectedly, I hiked that direction to see what I had missed out on. I found a hunter standing over a 2-point who told me that just after he shot his buck, the biggest buck that he had ever seen came running by.
There are lots of years of experience on this site and also some people that don't have a clue. The only thing you can do is take it all in, critically think about the information, and use what works for you. Good luck.
It's OK. I wasn't offended. I assumed he wasn't talking to me... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: DeArBuCK4me on October 21, 2013, 10:18:13 AM
It was soooo painful but one thing we learned then was that just because you see an animal it does not mean you need to fire now. if we had waited and had a little patience it would have been ours.
learned by our painful mistake.
I kicked my self for a couple years and lost sleep over it. the way it goes.
I have to say that today if the same situation happened I would remain calm and would stategically hunt this animal. :twocents:
Post by: Ripper on October 21, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
Post by: Waldo84 on November 06, 2013, 05:21:46 PM
My friend and I were walking and glassing up another hill right behind yours when we heard shots. Of course, being in the Methow, we always take a minute or two to stop and wait to see if any deer come hopping over a hill after a shot. Well, we waited about 20 or 30 seconds and all of a sudden this big black beast comes bookin it over the hill.
Now, you can imagine what was going through our heads. I'm pretty sure we both said "Holy sh*t, THATS A BEAR"!
We got set up as he was running closer and my buddy takes a shot and misses. The bear ran into a clump of aspen trees about 300 yards away (yes, his shot was a long one). He didn't stop though and came out the other side of those aspens and disappears behind a little knoll.
My friend and I run down the small hill and crest it to find that the bear is still coming our way along a fence line. My friend again shoots and hits him low in the stomach, the bear continues. I zero in on his shoulder, swinging from right to left, I take the shot and he makes a cartwheel dive about 50 yards in front of us and comes to a rest at the base of a tree. IT WAS AWESOME!!!
To say the adrenaline was flowing would be an understatement. Not only was this my first trip to Winthrop, it was my first big game animal, period.
Here is the picture of the bear, it is about 6' and weighed about 250 field dressed.
Post by: Birdguy on November 06, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
Post by: wafisherman on December 17, 2013, 04:56:56 PM