Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 12:50:54 PM
I was hoping I just creased him and he'll survive,but at the same time a part of me feels the slug went in far back missing the vitals and lodging somewhere's in the opposite shoulder.
Just wondering if anyone has had a similar situation or any thoughts on an unlucky shot like this?
Post by: h20hunter on October 17, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Post by: Swatson on October 17, 2013, 12:53:15 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 17, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
Post by: Swatson on October 17, 2013, 12:55:46 PM
I just appreciate you took the time to track him.
:yeah:
Post by: jackelope on October 17, 2013, 12:58:41 PM
If you hit that thing with a slug and followed him for that distance you'd find blood!
:yeah:
My buddy's 15 year old kid shot a whitetail buck saturday night. I couldn't see the deer when he shot him as I was laying in the grass. Anyway...we went to the spot where the deer was standing and we found a tiny speck of blood and a small wad of hair. I thought for sure it was a grazing wound and we'd never find it. We found no blood for 75-100 yards or so walking in the direction he watched the deer go. I was about to concede to a long night of tracking when the kid decided he was going to look over the next draw just for grins. Sure enough, the deer was laying there dead as a door nail. Massive blood spray all over the nearby brush. It looked like a hose sprayed blood all over the place. It was weird that there was none for ~75 yards than what seemed like all the deer's blood sprayed all over the brush.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
The flinch......hunched back or kick? Did you see him lift a leg when he took off like he was packing it? Silently bolt off......no normall crashing through the woods like I just got shot?
I only had a split second to see him bolt,I thought he slightly hunched and also kicked a little. I'm dreading the fact that the small slug may have gone through the gut and never exited,only bleeding internally.
Post by: h20hunter on October 17, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
I creased a deer a few years back and found meat and fat with the hair. That deer survived becuase I got him a week and half later.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on October 17, 2013, 01:30:56 PM
Post by: AOD on October 17, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 17, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
Hope the deer's Ok and that you just pulled the shot creasing his brisket.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 02:42:02 PM
Last year I shot a nice 3pt blackie with a hornady sst 300 grain 12ga slug. Shot was at 50 yards, held right behind the shoulder. Fired. The buck took off to the left and I lost sight of him. I did not hear the slug strike him and he didn't even flinch, no kick, no hunch, just straight to the left. I searched the field for any sign of a hit...yes it was a field. No sign of a hit. It got dark, grabbed a flashlight and continued to look for blood...no luck. The next morning I went back out searched the field again. Nothing. Looked at the situation again. Checked the only way he could have exited the field without me seeing him. Found him! He went 150 yards after the shot, jumped a 5 strand barb wire fence, and headed for the jungle. I found the slug hit true to point of aim, penetrated about 5 inches and turned right 90 degrees and ended up in the guts. My advice, check again, rethink the facts, and do a radial (circular) sweep of the area. You might find this................
Damn! I didn't need to hear that story. but no blood and no hair with a 12ga slug? Amazing. Atleast he was in an open field, mine is in acres and acres of a salmon berry,salal,and fern night mare jungle :bash:
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
Sounds like an unethical shot with too small of a bullet..... :sry: but it seemed fitting.... ;)
Hope the deer's Ok and that you just pulled the shot creasing his brisket.
I knew someone was going to say that, Leave it to you Loki :rolleyes: I do admit I've been unlucky the last couple years. Making up for all the lucky years before now I guess :dunno:
I have more of a feeling now he's ok looking at the hair again with some of it appearing to be cut or shaved in half.
Post by: N7XW on October 17, 2013, 03:44:43 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 17, 2013, 04:16:19 PM
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Post by: billythekidrock on October 17, 2013, 05:08:43 PM
I guess my main question is would a slug leave hair on the ground entering the side of a deer but not exiting?
Yes.
I shot a small two point with 12 gauge slug behind the ribs. The slug never exited the chest and the buck ran off. We only found hair and tracks so we went home for a lantern. Came back and followed fresh tracks, but no blood, for about 100 yards and then lost them.
We started doing circles and just when we were giving up we found the deer about 75 yards away with small splotches of blood a couple feet away. We backtracked and only found a couple specks of blood.
Post by: mikeybuck on October 17, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
Good chance you burned him.
What 20 ga slug? I've never seen much if any blood at all come from a deer that was taken with a shotgun.
I burned the back of a buck with a 12 ga, he flinched. Buck took off without missing a beat. Shortly after the buck was back to chasing a doe, but that time I was unable to take a shot
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 17, 2013, 10:04:50 PM
I got a shot on a big 2pt blacktail yesterday. It was an open broadside slightly quartered away 50-60 yard shot. I was using a 20ga. slug. The buck flinched as if hit on the shot but continued to silently bolt off with out hearing the familiar death kick crash. I waited a few minutes and listened,nothing. I walked up the where the deer was when I shot and found a significant amount of hair(looked like mostly hair from the lower front of a deer) but not sure. I thought I hit him sollid and really did expect him to be piled up within several yards. I tracked him for about a half mile before loosing track without finding a speck of blood.
I was hoping I just creased him and he'll survive,but at the same time a part of me feels the slug went in far back missing the vitals and lodging somewhere's in the opposite shoulder.
Just wondering if anyone has had a similar situation or any thoughts on an unlucky shot like this?
I would recommend you to take a dog and find that deer. 20 gauge slug is a big deal,even though people think it's weak. My grandpa shot a brown bear with a 20 gauge slug in Europe and bear just dropped and didn't even move. So if you're sure that you hit the deer then take someones dog and you will find that deer very quick. I have had couple situations like that back in Europe. The only way you can solve that problem is to find a hunting dog and your problem will be solved. Good luck!!!
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on October 17, 2013, 10:08:50 PM
I got a shot on a big 2pt blacktail yesterday. It was an open broadside slightly quartered away 50-60 yard shot. I was using a 20ga. slug. The buck flinched as if hit on the shot but continued to silently bolt off with out hearing the familiar death kick crash. I waited a few minutes and listened,nothing. I walked up the where the deer was when I shot and found a significant amount of hair(looked like mostly hair from the lower front of a deer) but not sure. I thought I hit him sollid and really did expect him to be piled up within several yards. I tracked him for about a half mile before loosing track without finding a speck of blood.
I was hoping I just creased him and he'll survive,but at the same time a part of me feels the slug went in far back missing the vitals and lodging somewhere's in the opposite shoulder.
Just wondering if anyone has had a similar situation or any thoughts on an unlucky shot like this?
I would recommend you to take a dog and find that deer. 20 gauge slug is a big deal,even though people think it's weak. My grandpa shot a brown bear with a 20 gauge slug in Europe and bear just dropped and didn't even move. So if you're sure that you hit the deer then take someones dog and you will find that deer very quick. I have had couple situations like that back in Europe. The only way you can solve that problem is to find a hunting dog and your problem will be solved. Good luck!!!
umm last time I checked the use of dogs for the tracking of wounded game in Washington state is illegal. I have been gone for a few years but I doubt the awesome governing body for wildlife has changed it.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 10:11:39 PM
I guess my main question is would a slug leave hair on the ground entering the side of a deer but not exiting?
Yes.
I shot a small two point with 12 gauge slug behind the ribs. The slug never exited the chest and the buck ran off. We only found hair and tracks so we went home for a lantern. Came back and followed fresh tracks, but no blood, for about 100 yards and then lost them.
We started doing circles and just when we were giving up we found the deer about 75 yards away with small splotches of blood a couple feet away. We backtracked and only found a couple specks of blood.
Interesting.. This morning i spent a couple more hours and circled and checked under every root ball and brush pile I could possibly get to. And when I went back to where i shot him I found a small clump of hair connected to a little bit of hide which seems to be a good sign that i only creased him.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 10:16:55 PM
When you look at the hair, what hair is it? Belly hair? Back hair,neck hair, etc????It looked to be a mixture of belly and brisket fur. I was using a federal hi-shok rifled.
Good chance you burned him.
What 20 ga slug? I've never seen much if any blood at all come from a deer that was taken with a shotgun.
I burned the back of a buck with a 12 ga, he flinched. Buck took off without missing a beat. Shortly after the buck was back to chasing a doe, but that time I was unable to take a shot
I have to say most of my deer were killed with a 12 ga. between 10-20 yards away blowing a hole through the engine room with blood and lung shooting out both sides.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 10:21:39 PM
I got a shot on a big 2pt blacktail yesterday. It was an open broadside slightly quartered away 50-60 yard shot. I was using a 20ga. slug. The buck flinched as if hit on the shot but continued to silently bolt off with out hearing the familiar death kick crash. I waited a few minutes and listened,nothing. I walked up the where the deer was when I shot and found a significant amount of hair(looked like mostly hair from the lower front of a deer) but not sure. I thought I hit him sollid and really did expect him to be piled up within several yards. I tracked him for about a half mile before loosing track without finding a speck of blood.
I was hoping I just creased him and he'll survive,but at the same time a part of me feels the slug went in far back missing the vitals and lodging somewhere's in the opposite shoulder.
Just wondering if anyone has had a similar situation or any thoughts on an unlucky shot like this?
I would recommend you to take a dog and find that deer. 20 gauge slug is a big deal,even though people think it's weak. My grandpa shot a brown bear with a 20 gauge slug in Europe and bear just dropped and didn't even move. So if you're sure that you hit the deer then take someones dog and you will find that deer very quick. I have had couple situations like that back in Europe. The only way you can solve that problem is to find a hunting dog and your problem will be solved. Good luck!!!
Yeah I thought about the dog thing,but don't really want my dogs getting into the habit of chasing deer.
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 17, 2013, 10:26:10 PM
I got a shot on a big 2pt blacktail yesterday. It was an open broadside slightly quartered away 50-60 yard shot. I was using a 20ga. slug. The buck flinched as if hit on the shot but continued to silently bolt off with out hearing the familiar death kick crash. I waited a few minutes and listened,nothing. I walked up the where the deer was when I shot and found a significant amount of hair(looked like mostly hair from the lower front of a deer) but not sure. I thought I hit him sollid and really did expect him to be piled up within several yards. I tracked him for about a half mile before loosing track without finding a speck of blood.
I was hoping I just creased him and he'll survive,but at the same time a part of me feels the slug went in far back missing the vitals and lodging somewhere's in the opposite shoulder.
Just wondering if anyone has had a similar situation or any thoughts on an unlucky shot like this?
I would recommend you to take a dog and find that deer. 20 gauge slug is a big deal,even though people think it's weak. My grandpa shot a brown bear with a 20 gauge slug in Europe and bear just dropped and didn't even move. So if you're sure that you hit the deer then take someones dog and you will find that deer very quick. I have had couple situations like that back in Europe. The only way you can solve that problem is to find a hunting dog and your problem will be solved. Good luck!!!
Yeah I thought about the dog thing,but don't really want my dogs getting into the habit of chasing deer.
That's the only way you can find your deer buddy....Don't worry ,it's not gonna get into the habit
Post by: singleshot12 on October 17, 2013, 10:30:53 PM
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 17, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
Yeah but if that deer died yesterday morning somewhere what good would it do me to find it now?
Dogs know their job man,if it died they will find it very very fast ,trust me ...Just wake up at 7 take your dogs and try to find it ..it is possible that your slug didn't hit a vital organ..maybe you it hit the liver or intestines. Just don't give up try to find it. If you're 100% sure you hit it ,it will die ...20 gauge slug is not a joke...if you have a pump action,semi auto, or double barrel shotgun always use the slug first then 00 or #4 buckshot ,and your game won't be able to run away.
Post by: hillbilli on October 18, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
Post by: h20hunter on October 18, 2013, 03:22:32 PM
Yeah but if that deer died yesterday morning somewhere what good would it do me to find it now?
Only you can answer that. I'd say closeure......notch your tag, take the horns.....tag your deer. However, that is your call just like its your call on how and how long you look for it.
Post by: lostbackpacker on October 18, 2013, 03:40:17 PM
Yeah but if that deer died yesterday morning somewhere what good would it do me to find it now?
respect to the life you took.
Post by: N7XW on October 18, 2013, 04:13:50 PM
:yeah:Yeah but if that deer died yesterday morning somewhere what good would it do me to find it now?
Only you can answer that. I'd say closeure......notch your tag, take the horns.....tag your deer. However, that is your call just like its your call on how and how long you look for it.
Post by: sakoshooter on October 18, 2013, 05:30:22 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on October 18, 2013, 05:36:12 PM
Yeah but if that deer died yesterday morning somewhere what good would it do me to find it now?
Only you can answer that. I'd say closeure......notch your tag, take the horns.....tag your deer. However, that is your call just like its your call on how and how long you look for it.
I agree with H20, only you can say when you have closure to this. It won't take long and you will be able to smell him if he's down. As Sako said, the scavenger birds will start working the body as well.
Post by: lokidog on October 18, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Yeah but if that deer died yesterday morning somewhere what good would it do me to find it now?
Only you can answer that. I'd say closeure......notch your tag, take the horns.....tag your deer. However, that is your call just like its your call on how and how long you look for it.
:yeah: Be the ethical thing to do..... :hello:
Post by: singleshot12 on October 18, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
Post by: brew on October 18, 2013, 09:46:59 PM
Sounds like an unethical shot with too small of a bullet..... :sry: but it seemed fitting.... ;)wow...you must know more about the story than the rest of us to call it an "unethical shot" i always thought ethics were the limitations you placed on yourself and if you exceeded them then it would be "unethical"....nothing in the original post told me the hunter had only shot slugs out to 40 yards accurately so anything beyond that range would be a reach....saying that a 20 ga slug fired from a gun at 60 yards at a "slightly quartering away" deer in the clear is unethical and too small of a bullet is assinine if you don't know all the facts.....sorry to say but it seemed fitting
Hope the deer's Ok and that you just pulled the shot creasing his brisket.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 19, 2013, 06:24:42 AM
Post by: hillbilli on October 19, 2013, 04:35:35 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 19, 2013, 07:06:18 PM
ethics were the limitations you placed on yourself and if you exceeded them then it would be "unethicalwas well said by Brew.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 21, 2013, 02:48:33 PM
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 21, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
Blacktail hunting can drive a guy crazy, I wouldn't reconmend it to anyone. I think this is my last year hunting these sneaky little bastages :twocents:
That's why it's called hunting. Not everybody can do that.... Don't give up ,a lot of hunters experience that once in a while....just take another 20 gauge slug and go get another blacktail. If you're not confident in your shot, you will fail again and again. Good luck and DON'T GIVE UP!