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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: herdbull33 on November 03, 2013, 05:33:10 PM

Title: Stablizers???
Post by: herdbull33 on November 03, 2013, 05:33:10 PM: Need a new, longer, better stablizer for my Bowtech Detroyer 340. Thanks for any input.
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Post by: dreamunelk on November 03, 2013, 05:46:18 PM: Why?
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Post by: RadSav on November 03, 2013, 05:47:03 PM: How long and what are you using now?
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Post by: herdbull33 on November 03, 2013, 05:49:12 PM: I'm actually not sure of the brand buts its the one i've had since i started archery hunting About 6 years ago. Its about 4" long and i feel like a bit longer stablizer couldnt hurt.
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Post by: hughjorgan on November 03, 2013, 05:51:56 PM: B stinger

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Post by: PolarBear on November 03, 2013, 05:56:07 PM: Quote from: dreamunelk on November 03, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
Why?
:yeah:
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Post by: hughjorgan on November 03, 2013, 06:00:13 PM: Quote from: PolarBear on November 03, 2013, 05:56:07 PM
Quote from: dreamunelk on November 03, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
Why?
:yeah:

If it gives him more confidence, why not?
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Post by: PolarBear on November 03, 2013, 06:11:23 PM: I guess so. For the most part they are unnecessary.
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Post by: jrebel on November 03, 2013, 06:42:50 PM: I would recommend you buy a Mathews, that will fix any shooting problems you are having with that destroyer. :chuckle:
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Post by: dreamunelk on November 03, 2013, 07:05:19 PM: Quote from: hughjorgan on November 03, 2013, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: PolarBear on November 03, 2013, 05:56:07 PM
Quote from: dreamunelk on November 03, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
Why?
:yeah:

If it gives him more confidence, why not?

Agree. I was just curious because in most hunting situations it will not make a difference. No gadget will improve shooting and confidence better then practice, practice, and more practice.
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Post by: JPhelps on November 03, 2013, 07:30:01 PM: Stabilizers WILL help. Can't deny physics. The only downfall is you need a long stabilizer, heavier weight or a combination of the two for the effects to be noticeable.

For a lot of guys a 3 or 4 oz weight at the end of a 10" stabilizer will make a difference.
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Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 03, 2013, 07:36:57 PM: Quote
Agree. I was just curious because in most hunting situations it will not make a difference. No gadget will improve shooting and confidence better then practice, practice, and more practice.

Some hunting situations it will get snagged on a little thing, nothing like having a blackberry vine grab on to your bow just when you are trying to lift it for a shot :bash:
But honestly, I have one on my recurve.
I find my bow is quieter when I release, and my groups are tighter with one, but do not have a bow quiver.
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Post by: sakoshooter on November 03, 2013, 07:40:49 PM: Besides the vibration dampening effects of a stabilizer the only length/weight you need is just enough to counter the recoil of the shot. Your bow should stand still after the shot or tip forward just slightly. Any more than that is simply a hindrance especially while hunting. Your grip will also have an effect on the bow at the shot. A very open hand allows the bow to move any place at the shot. A relaxed hand contains much of the bows movement. I don't want to get into too much form detail but big/long stabilizers are overrated on a hunting bow if you ask me
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Post by: JPhelps on November 03, 2013, 07:51:10 PM: I'm confused. If it helps archers pound the X during competitive archery how can it not help stay on target during a hunting situation?

I challenge you to take a bow without a stabilizer and then take a bow with a long/weighted stabilizer and aim them at a target. There is a difference.
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Post by: earlmarne on November 03, 2013, 07:58:41 PM: doinker sells some quality stabilizers.
i run a dish to offset my sigh n quiver.
having some weight out in front of your bow will steady your sight picture.
my stabilizer has yet to hinder me in the woods.although my tie in the woods is minimal
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Post by: PolarBear on November 03, 2013, 08:13:54 PM: A long stabilizer in a hunting situation is fine if you are making long shots in open country. If you prefer to hunt wet side jungles where any shot over 35 yards is almost impossible and a long stabilizer would just get in the way or snagged.
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Post by: xXx Archery on November 03, 2013, 08:23:13 PM: Quote from: sakoshooter on November 03, 2013, 07:40:49 PM
Besides the vibration dampening effects of a stabilizer the only length/weight you need is just enough to counter the recoil of the shot. Your bow should stand still after the shot or tip forward just slightly. Any more than that is simply a hindrance especially while hunting. Your grip will also have an effect on the bow at the shot. A very open hand allows the bow to move any place at the shot. A relaxed hand contains much of the bows movement. I don't want to get into too much form detail but big/long stabilizers are overrated on a hunting bow if you ask me

Stabs are NOT for recoil.....they are for aiming it helps hold the PIN on target...the arrow goes where the pin is....Overrated?..not for me I want my bow to aim the best it can..
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Post by: demontang on November 03, 2013, 09:13:20 PM: :yeah: there is a difference and not just a long range. I like the stokrized ss1 myself as it helps offset the quiver of arrows most people have on there bows :twocents:
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Post by: RadSav on November 03, 2013, 09:19:55 PM: Quote from: PolarBear on November 03, 2013, 08:13:54 PM
A long stabilizer in a hunting situation is fine if you are making long shots in open country. If you prefer to hunt wet side jungles where any shot over 35 yards is almost impossible and a long stabilizer would just get in the way or snagged.

Where do you hunt on the west side? I find it harder to get a shot under 35 over here than to get one further.

I've been hunting the west side with at least an 8" stabilizer on my bow since '84 or '85. I can not remember ever getting it caught on anything except when following a bears blood trail into a blackberry patch. Then when I did get to the bear I would not have been able to draw a pistol let alone shoot my bow so it wouldn't have mattered if I had a stabilizer or not.

With that being said, I find the Bowtech bows very well balanced and large and long stabilizers like most Bee Stingers unnecessary. But if you want one - Fine with me! I do not much care for them.

I use Sims Modular stabilizers on all my bows now. Nice thing there is you can customize them to whatever bow you have and whatever your personal taste figures out to be. Trophy Ridge is making a very nice and well priced stabilizer now too. Carpsniper did a review here a few months ago on the new Trophy Ridge model.
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Post by: WARHORSE on November 03, 2013, 09:32:57 PM: long and weighted or a short doinker................. :dunno:
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 03, 2013, 09:47:52 PM: I know for a fact I shoot better with the longer stabilizer's. I like models that adjust the best. Check out the static 9"

http://www.trophyridge.com/bow-stabilizers/static-stabilizer (http://www.trophyridge.com/bow-stabilizers/static-stabilizer)
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Post by: Jellymon on November 03, 2013, 10:13:29 PM: Finding the right stab setup FOR YOU will help. But, What a lot of people don't think about is letoff and holding weight. Most bowhunters want an 80% letoff bow without realizing that 65-75% can help them hold better with a steadier sight picture. Not always the case, but usually. My target bow is 65% at 60lbs and I'm very steady(with a 27" stab) My hunting bow is 75%at 65lbs, not much different from 80%, but those 3 extra pounds of holding weight are definitely steadier for me. And it's all of as steady as mt target bow and only has an 8" stab with no extra weight. It's all about finding the right combo for you. :twocents:
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Post by: sakoshooter on November 03, 2013, 11:39:51 PM: Long? Is 8" long? If so, mine is extra long at 10.5" But it's perfect to keep my bow balanced and prevent it from moving at the shot(recoil). Not sure what other word would be best other than recoil. The reaction to an action. I'm not shooting targets when I'm hunting. The OP asked about a hunting stab not a target stab.
Webster's defines 'recoil' as the 'action of recoiling(as from a gun or spring)
I'd venture to say that limbs with cams and strings could easily fall into this category.
If you feel comfortable hunting with a 27" stab, more power to ya.
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Post by: herdbull33 on November 04, 2013, 07:40:24 AM: Thanks for the info guys. I only hunt on the Eastside in the open country, mainly during the late season. I already have an offset for my quiver and I do practice religiously. I just feel like the stabilizer I have now doesn't feel right with the added weight of my magnetic quiver in which i may discard. The trophy ridge looks like it might be what i'm looking for. Not sure yet. Also, I love my Bowtech!!! It was one of few bows that fit my draw length- 32".....i'm kinda a big guy.
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Post by: hntrspud on November 04, 2013, 12:02:49 PM: I shoot a simms windjammer on my bow. Not a thing wrong with trying a longer stabilizer, if you dont like it, then go back to what you have. I also have a long draw and found a bit longer stabilizer helped me out. I shoot a Diamond, by bowtech.