Post by: bowhunterforever on November 05, 2013, 12:50:10 AM
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 05, 2013, 09:02:38 AM
-Steve
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Post by: thinkingman on November 05, 2013, 09:19:53 AM
If you do, the XDM is a pretty rugged piece to take into the woods, and more tolerant of mud, dirt, rain, scrapes and higher capacity.
Post by: cwuwildcat on November 05, 2013, 09:25:35 AM
Post by: 300rum on November 05, 2013, 10:08:38 AM
Ruger uses cast parts and really isn't worth the money. I would take a look at an STI or a Springfield in a 1911 if you must have a factory 1911.
If you buy a Stainless 1911, which you probably shouldn't, you need to run them wet to prevent galling. Which means that you need to clean them regularly. I hate cleaning.
If you really want a 1911, have a custom one built, they will run circles around any factory 1911. Depending on your pistol smith, you may be able to buy your own parts. If you have any kind of business, you can get a business account at Brownells and that will save you some money on the parts. Make sure that you line up a smith and talk to him before you start buying parts. You can buy the parts that you want and will be able to buy them over time, then have the pistol smith fit them. Again, no factory gun compares to a custom 1911. If you are on the wet side, I would look at JPL Precision. I haven't used him but have spoke with him and seen his pistols in use.
Post by: Bofire on November 05, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
Carl
Post by: 300rum on November 05, 2013, 01:04:45 PM
When it comes to pistols, nothing even comes close to a custom 1911 built by someone who knows how. It is also loads of fun to be able to pick the internals that you want, the hammer that you want, the sight and sight width's that you want. You get choices such as slide lightening, grips, checkering, undercut trigger guards, square trigger guards, bull barrels, tight bushing barrels (where you have to strain to rack the slide), slide cuts, tri top slides, true match grade barrels and on and on and on.
I have seen people who can't hit the broad side of a barn with any pistol pick up a custom and be able to shoot a plate rack, hit a man sized target at 50 yards off-hand.
Will it cost you $3k? It could. I would think that if you poke around you would be able to buy the parts and have one built for less then $2k. What is a Ruger running now? $1,100 or so? Wait a little and put the gun together over time and you will have something that will set itself apart.
Post by: thinkingman on November 05, 2013, 01:15:02 PM
1911, is the ruger steel? 20 years ago I would have agreed with 300RUM but now know. There are many GREAT factory 1911's, with custom you BETTER have the BEST smith there are loads of crappy 'customs' out there. steel frame 1911 5 inch is a wonderful all round gun. 45acp. I own and have owned many, carry every day for 40 years, 1911 for me.I absolutely agree.
Carl
I have spoken to 'gunsmiths' who I wouldn't let change my tire, let alone buff and fluff my 1911.
Take a look at a Dan Wesson produced in the last few years if you don't think a factory can produce a tight(too tight?)1911.
I hear even Colt has kicked and screamed into the late 20th century with CAD/CAM machinery.
I will also say if someone can't hit a pepper popper or plate with a factory Kimber, a custom with the same sights isn't the solution.
Like saying a $100k car will make an idiot a better driver.
Post by: 300rum on November 05, 2013, 01:25:35 PM
You should try to find someone with a truly custom 1911 built by a good pistol smith and ask to shoot it, you will know what I mean.
Post by: 300rum on November 05, 2013, 01:34:15 PM
Post by: thinkingman on November 05, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
I have my Kimber's and have 50k rounds (at least) through one. They aren't bad, just not even close to the same category. And just because Kimber stamps "custom" on their pistols, it doesn't make it "custom". :chuckle:I'm not kidding myself about Kimber....they are mass produced, bells and whistles.
You should try to find someone with a truly custom 1911 built by a good pistol smith and ask to shoot it, you will know what I mean.
I have one and it has been flawless.
I have shot LB, Nighthawk, Wilson.
I own and STI, also.
You really have to examine the details to appreciate the full custom.
Post by: bowhunterforever on November 05, 2013, 02:50:07 PM
Post by: 300rum on November 05, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
Whatever you get, shoot it a ton. Try shooting USPSA with it if you really want to get to know it.
I"m kinda leaning twords the xdm 40 just cause it holds more rounds then the 45 but i'm not real sure about not having the finger safety. I would get use to it I'm sure.
Post by: bowhunterforever on November 05, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
The XDM has a "finger" safety, the safest one of all. :tup:I thought it only has a grip saftey
Whatever you get, shoot it a ton. Try shooting USPSA with it if you really want to get to know it.I"m kinda leaning twords the xdm 40 just cause it holds more rounds then the 45 but i'm not real sure about not having the finger safety. I would get use to it I'm sure.
Post by: hillbilli on November 05, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on November 05, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
While my 1911's are my most prized, I still carry my Glocks everyday.
Also, I dont like the XD series guns so Im not familiar. But a full size 1911 is a chore to carry as opposed to say a Glock 27 Sub. Heck an XDs I believe has about the same capacity as a 1911. Night and day difference to carry.
The only real answer is to stock a gun for every situation! :tup:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 05, 2013, 06:17:45 PM
Just pick one. If you don't like it. Sell it and get something else.
Like I said, I love my 1911's, but most often pack a Ruger Sp101 in .357mag. In the woods, 44mag Ruger is the way to go.
-Steve
Post by: 300rum on November 05, 2013, 06:30:09 PM
The XDM has a "finger" safety, the safest one of all. :tup:I thought it only has a grip saftey
Whatever you get, shoot it a ton. Try shooting USPSA with it if you really want to get to know it.I"m kinda leaning twords the xdm 40 just cause it holds more rounds then the 45 but i'm not real sure about not having the finger safety. I would get use to it I'm sure.
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