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Title: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 06, 2013, 03:06:30 PM: In our camp we got four elk this year a 3 point taken with a any bull permit, a spike during the general season and two cows taken with antlerless permits. We always cut and wrap our meat ourselves so when we started I thought it would be cool to see what the weight difference between them would be. All of our elk were in quarters so I couldn't weigh them whole so what I did was I just weighed one of the rear quarters from each. I was rather surprised at the differences.
The three points hind quarter weighed 52lbs and I figured it at being a 2 1/2 year old animal.
The spike's quarter weighed only 37lbs and I am guessing it was a 1 1/2 yo animal.
The cows hind quarter weighed 48lbs and judging by her ivories I was thinking she was probably a 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 yo animal.

I couldn't believe that in possibly just one year the 3 point was 50% bigger then the spike and that a possibly older cow was smaller then a very young bull. Obviously i don't know the ages of the animals for sure but, it was the first time that I had actually felt jiped for having to hunt spikes. I am gonna start taking notes on the animals we get every year and see how they compare to each other and from one spike to the next. You may notice I left one cow elk out and that was because it was a calf that a friend shot and he wanted to do his own thing with it. I would be really interested to see what a quarter off a mature 5 or six point might weigh.
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Post by: billythekidrock on November 06, 2013, 03:14:33 PM: I have had them weigh up to 100lbs on a big bull and up to 60lbs on a large cow.
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Post by: Easy-E on November 06, 2013, 03:45:48 PM: This sounds more like it. Were the three hindquarters boned out, meat only?
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Post by: stw on November 06, 2013, 04:07:07 PM: I had to hind quarters done of 2 bulls a 6x6 he was 5 1/2 to 6 1/2
The hind quarter weight of 120 lbs and the 2nd bull was a 5x7 at age
6 1/2 to 7 1/2 years old and hind quarter was huge 183 lbs that hole
Elk weight of the 2nd bull was 875 lbs at the butcher
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Post by: wastickslinger on November 06, 2013, 04:11:13 PM: Buzz must be talking boned out weight
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Post by: Rainier10 on November 06, 2013, 04:18:02 PM: I think the heaviest cow hind quarter I have weighed, skinned with the leg cut off at the knee was 64lbs, the lightest was a spike at 45lbs.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 06, 2013, 04:43:06 PM: It wasn't boned out meat just one quarter off each animal skinned with leg cut off at knee. None of them were giants by any means. Like I said the oldest animal was probably the cow and my guess was 4-5 years old but who knows maybe she was 2-3 but I don't think so by the condition of her teeth. My interest wasn't really on how big they were, but as how they compared to each other. These were all from the Yakima herd. The weights on the big bulls is cool thanks for posting them. Oh and my weights were done on a certified scale.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 06, 2013, 04:46:28 PM: Quote from: stw on November 06, 2013, 04:07:07 PM
I had to hind quarters done of 2 bulls a 6x6 he was 5 1/2 to 6 1/2
The hind quarter weight of 120 lbs and the 2nd bull was a 5x7 at age
6 1/2 to 7 1/2 years old and hind quarter was huge 183 lbs that hole
Elk weight of the 2nd bull was 875 lbs at the butcher

Thats awesome was it a rosie or a rockie.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: Rainier10 on November 06, 2013, 04:57:15 PM: The 65lbs cow hind quarter was a rosie, the 45lb spike was in the umptanum, and I think most of my colockum cows have been in the 55-58lb range except one yearling that was about 35 or 40lbs is my guess, I didn't weigh that one.

The difference in size is fun, but I don't go by size so much when I am shooting as what is the highest percentage shot. Once it is on the ground whatever it is it is.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 06, 2013, 05:13:03 PM: Both rocky mt westside
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: Timberstalker on November 06, 2013, 05:19:31 PM: Quote from: stw on November 06, 2013, 04:07:07 PM
I had to hind quarters done of 2 bulls a 6x6 he was 5 1/2 to 6 1/2
The hind quarter weight of 120 lbs and the 2nd bull was a 5x7 at age
6 1/2 to 7 1/2 years old and hind quarter was huge 183 lbs that hole
Elk weight of the 2nd bull was 875 lbs at the butcher

Am I reading this right? 183# was one quarter?
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: coachcw on November 06, 2013, 05:21:49 PM: the biggest bull I've hung whole was 595 , rib cage and four quarters he was a chunk ! .
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 06, 2013, 05:24:39 PM: Ill post picks if you like
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Post by: stw on November 06, 2013, 05:27:49 PM: Bugs n bones helped pack it out
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 06, 2013, 05:29:49 PM: Heavens yes post pics :tup: :drool:Thats why I am here to see pics of bulls!!!! And that sounds like a stunner :yike:
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Post by: stw on November 06, 2013, 06:02:49 PM: Here is the 5x7
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Post by: stw on November 06, 2013, 06:06:55 PM: Sorry i coulded both up at once heres 6x6
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 06, 2013, 07:11:07 PM: Great bulls Both are Pigs! Thanks for posting those dudes up :tup:
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Post by: Timberstalker on November 06, 2013, 07:15:07 PM: STW-

I see it now! Both are tanks! The first one looks like the body of a damn Angus. Wow.
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Post by: stw on November 07, 2013, 03:19:20 AM: Thank you i have one more that is actually in between those 2
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Post by: Dmulcahy on November 07, 2013, 08:21:48 AM: Stw I've seen that 2nd pic before. I think you might work with my brother.
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Post by: stw on November 07, 2013, 08:36:45 AM: Is this one of Joeys little brothers
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Post by: Whitpirate on November 07, 2013, 08:42:51 AM: My Clock cow this year had 57 lb hindquarters. She was a chunk mature silverback
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Post by: YoterHunter on November 07, 2013, 08:58:28 AM: 2 years ago I shot a nice 5 x 5 and my son shot a big spike . There was only 36 lb deferance between the two.
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Post by: Dmulcahy on November 07, 2013, 09:18:33 AM: Yes it is, I'm the youngest one. Nice bulls!
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Post by: muleskinner509 on November 08, 2013, 11:25:39 AM: I have packed out several 5 & 6 point bulls over the years most hind quarters seem to weigh between 90 to 120lbs. Rockymnt. Elk
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: sirmissalot on November 08, 2013, 11:47:02 AM: A 183 pound hind quarter has got to be close to moose size. I've always figured a mature bull will have 80-100lb hind quarters, bone in. That's pretty incredible I would have to make two trips per hind quarter on an animal like that.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 08, 2013, 06:04:36 PM: The butcher figures live weight at 1100 lbs
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: deerslyr on November 08, 2013, 09:10:48 PM: Are you guys weighing these quarters with bone in and hide on? Not sure why some one would pack all of that but I packed my 6 points boned out hind and then some and there aint no way I could pack more than 100lbs at a time, unless im way stronger than I thought. Id say the pack was closer to 90lb and the body size wasnt much different than stws bulls he posted.

It is quite possible that im much stronger than I thought though :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: buglebuster on November 08, 2013, 09:36:35 PM: 1100lb elk :chuckle:
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: sirmissalot on November 08, 2013, 09:57:04 PM: A quick google search shows even for a moose a 183 pound hind quarter is huge. Must have been a true quarter, bone in like a beef cow? That would make a little more sense, but even then...
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 09, 2013, 03:14:38 AM: Heres the meat and what it looks like when we pack it out the night i got
It .Next day i took it to fisher meats to hang no hide . This is how all my elk look when they come out pf the woods
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: huntnnw on November 09, 2013, 04:53:39 AM: My bull moose qtrs with bone and hoof still attached were 135 and 138 lbs... These were by far the biggest qtrs I have ever handled and I'm no stranger to elk
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 09, 2013, 06:21:27 AM: Just want to say thanks to the people that like the pics
I dont show people. I just figured people would like to see
Them. Because i like looking at other people elk picture.
It cool if people dont believe how big they were all it madders
I was there i saw the scale and my friends. Iv shot 8 bulls
3 of them were big and 5 were small from 340 to 450 hanging at
The locker. Those had the small hind quarters. i have
more picture of different elk . So thanks again. I posted
My mounts before on here some were . Ill post again if
People want . I figure why should i be the only to see them
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: buglebuster on November 09, 2013, 08:19:27 AM: Quote from: stw on November 09, 2013, 03:14:38 AM
Heres the meat and what it looks like when we pack it out the night i got
It .Next day i took it to fisher meats to hang no hide . This is how all my elk look when they come out pf the woods
Thats an elk :yike:
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 09, 2013, 08:26:11 AM: Ya that bull was 9 to 10 1/2 years old
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 09, 2013, 11:14:16 AM: I was with you until I seen the quarter with the bone-in still in one piece. Which means you are trying to say you packed out a 183lb quarter which makes me say *censored*. I don't know how big quarters get but I do know what an average man can put on his back and walk. Did you wheel these quarters out on a game cart? Or are you trying to say that the combined weight of the 2 rear quarters was 183lb.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 09, 2013, 12:14:07 PM: One quarter one pack im 210 never said it took
Me and family and friends hour or 2 to get him out
Like 8 to 10 hours to pack out its heavy. its funny everyone
thinks the bone in the hind lag is heavy lol what mybe
8 lbs. And to the moose in this state iv seen them
I also seen lot more elk bigger then the moose
There not canadian or Alaska moose . Ill i can say the body
Was big scale dont lie and the tax. Had to order the biggest
Form for it . I love it
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: stw on November 09, 2013, 12:53:07 PM: Now heres a bull that went 335 at the locker.
Ya the hind quarters 80 lbs.
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 09, 2013, 01:25:18 PM: I think you have to knock the hide off to really apreciate the muscle development of an older age class bull. As your locker pic shows, that bull is a ripper! All elk look big in field pics ( to me ) My bull this year was similar in size to the bull in your second pic, hes my biggest rosie to date. Hinds were 126, I was solo, so i boned the cage. But left bone in shoulders and hinds.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: bugs n bones on November 09, 2013, 03:11:36 PM: Quote from: huntnnw on November 09, 2013, 04:53:39 AM
My bull moose qtrs with bone and hoof still attached were 135 and 138 lbs... These were by far the biggest qtrs I have ever handled and I'm no stranger to elk
I helped pack stw's elk out....the one in peticuliar a hind quarter bone in, hacked off at the knee was almost 130 pounds, trust me it was a big bull and very heavy pack
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: bugs n bones on November 09, 2013, 03:16:15 PM: Quote from: buglebuster on November 08, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
1100lb elk :chuckle:
That is what the butcher estimated live weight....again it was an estimation, no need need to be an *censored* and bust his balls over it. Didnt your mama teach you if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all!
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: buglebuster on November 09, 2013, 07:59:21 PM: Quote from: bugs n bones on November 09, 2013, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: buglebuster on November 08, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
1100lb elk :chuckle:
That is what the butcher estimated live weight....again it was an estimation, no need need to be an *censored* and bust his balls over it. Didnt your mama teach you if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all!
From the sound of your post you need to practice what you preach :dunno:
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Post by: sneakyjake on November 09, 2013, 10:55:51 PM: Girls, girls, you all look pretty.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: bugs n bones on November 10, 2013, 05:43:59 AM: Quote from: buglebuster on November 09, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: bugs n bones on November 09, 2013, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: buglebuster on November 08, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
1100lb elk :chuckle:
That is what the butcher estimated live weight....again it was an estimation, no need need to be an *censored* and bust his balls over it. Didnt your mama teach you if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all!
From the sound of your post you need to practice what you preach :dunno:
no actually its mouthpieces like you that start arguments by be littleing someone else when they trying to explain an honest story.
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: buglebuster on November 10, 2013, 06:55:26 AM: Quote from: bugs n bones on November 10, 2013, 05:43:59 AM
Quote from: buglebuster on November 09, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: bugs n bones on November 09, 2013, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: buglebuster on November 08, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
1100lb elk :chuckle:
That is what the butcher estimated live weight....again it was an estimation, no need need to be an *censored* and bust his balls over it. Didnt your mama teach you if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all!
From the sound of your post you need to practice what you preach :dunno:
no actually its mouthpieces like you that start arguments by be littleing someone else when they trying to explain an honest story.
Wasnt belittling anyone pal.. think what ya wanna. Lets get this thread back on its original path :tup:
Title: Re: Some interesting elk weight numbers
Post by: LittleJohn on November 10, 2013, 07:14:02 AM: Have had 2 bulls that weighed 340# + of deboned meat. Both were Montana bulls in the 350" class. Need to get a scale, so I can start weighing quarters. Have never brought out the bones, not sure why you would want the extra weight. Only takes 10 minutes to bone out a quarter :twocents:
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Post by: kentrek on November 10, 2013, 10:05:39 AM: Quote from: LittleJohn on November 10, 2013, 07:14:02 AM
Have had 2 bulls that weighed 340# + of deboned meat. Both were Montana bulls in the 350" class. Need to get a scale, so I can start weighing quarters. Have never brought out the bones, not sure why you would want the extra weight. Only takes 10 minutes to bone out a quarter :twocents:

Had a rosy this year that was over the 300# mark of boneless meat..woulda been nice to know what the full quarters were...

Also it might be faster in the field to debone but if it takes me an extea couple hours to get the meat cleaned up for prossessing then its really not saving time in the long run..so short packs have the bone in most of the time just to save time back in the meat room
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Post by: Ingwe on November 10, 2013, 09:34:48 PM: I had a bull couple years ago from west lewis county that we packed out in 6 pieces. Total was 472 lbs.
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Post by: Mike450r on November 11, 2013, 09:13:11 AM: Quote from: buglebuster on November 08, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
1100lb elk :chuckle:

We have weighed bulls out of Bear River, Williams Crk. at the truck scales outside of Raymond and there were a few that weighed 1000 lbs. Seen a few come off Long Island that were absolute pigs but they come out in pieces so never weighed them but an 1100 lb old Roosevelt is not out of the question from that area. Some monster cows out there too. Those elk dwarf the Rocky Mtn elk in body size.