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Title: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: ValleyHunter88 on November 08, 2013, 03:45:39 PM
Hello,
I am looking to buy a semi-auto .223 for coyote hunting. I don't know where to start, and I need some advice on what to get. I don't want to spend over $800 if possible, but I don't want to buy junk. What rifles do you guys recommend? You can PM or email me as well if you have something for sale.
Thanks, Tristen.
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: jay.sharkbait on November 08, 2013, 04:08:22 PM
800 not including optic, right?
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: ValleyHunter88 on November 08, 2013, 05:27:11 PM
800 not including optic, right?

Correct.
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: BKMFR on November 08, 2013, 05:45:32 PM
I shoot 60-80 Coyotes a year and rely on a Ruger mini 14 Target model with the Hogue stock and barrel harmonic tuner (for sub-1" groups), I have a leupold 2.5x8 on it and very easy to put night lights on it.... Great rig for night time.
Daytime Remington 40x 22-250 with 4.5x14 leupold and Benelli SBE II sitting in lap.
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 08, 2013, 06:05:54 PM
You should be able to buy a $650 AR-15, DPMS and top it off with a nice Nikon scope. It will be real close to $ 800- $900.
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: ValleyHunter88 on November 08, 2013, 06:19:12 PM
You should be able to buy a $650 AR-15, DPMS and top it off with a nice Nikon scope. It will be real close to $ 800- $900.
What does DPMS mean? What manufacturer?
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 08, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
You should be able to buy a $650 AR-15, DPMS and top it off with a nice Nikon scope. It will be real close to $ 800- $900.
What does DPMS mean? What manufacturer?


http://www.dpmsinc.com/ (http://www.dpmsinc.com/)
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 08, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
You should be able to buy a $650 AR-15, DPMS and top it off with a nice Nikon scope. It will be real close to $ 800- $900.
What does DPMS mean? What manufacturer?



That's the name of the company. Like Colt, Bushmaster etc.
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 08, 2013, 06:41:51 PM
I've had DPMS AR's and was impressed with them for a starter gun.
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: Blacklab on November 08, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
If you go ar platform build it  :twocents: Better product better price and real easy  ;)
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: jay.sharkbait on November 08, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
If you go ar platform build it  :twocents: Better product better price and real easy  ;)

I agree

This is what I would do for a sub MOA AR15 dog killer

Aero precision upper and lower Blems if available  135.00  http://aeroprecisionusa.com/ (http://aeroprecisionusa.com/)

BCG  120.00   https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4039 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=4039)

Barrel  250.00  https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2902 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2902)

Handguard Free float  200.00    https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3366 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3366)

Flash hider a2 10.00

Gasblock 40.00    https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=911 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=911)

Gastube   13.00

Lower parts kit w NM two stage trigger 180.00    https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=395 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=395)

Butt stock 60.00  https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3607 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3607)

Buffer,spring and tube 79.00  https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3416 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3416)

Charging handle  26.00  https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1482 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1482)

Charging handle latch (If using optics) 18.00  https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2707 (https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2707)

I'm sure I missed something............

I think this would make a minimal frills Varmint/SPR style rifle that should pound.

1131.00 bucks. You could go with a cheaper HG and single stage stock trigger and get a little closer to 800.00.


I used Rainier arms for no specific reason, but the prices seem fair and they have a good rep


Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: hillbilli on November 09, 2013, 12:29:27 AM
there are other options in a  complete rifle than DPMS, like the Smith M&P sport- if you can find one.
 a build for a less experienced guy might be simply to buy a lower reciever (has to come from a FFL dealer), (delton or any other brand you recognize, order a butt stock kit and a lower parts kit. (you can order from lots of places- like Joe-bob outfitters-and they have kits where all the parts in a kit are a good brand, like Rock River),  the lower and buttstock is easy to assembly with very few tools, and there are lots of videos that show how to do it. then just order the upper half you want already assembled. (midwayusa, palmetostate armory, bravo company, about a dozen other places) look to see if the upper comes with a BCG (bolt carrier group) and charging handle, as some do, some dont. Midway has a basic upper in your choice of length for 415$-460$, with the BCG and charging handle. (in a brand like del-ton, dpms, etc) Yes, you could spend extra to get a free float tube, match barrel, etc- but almost any decent brand AR in standard 16" or 20" configuration will usually shoot 1.5" or less at 100yds out of the box.. isnt that good enough for a basic coyote/multipurpose carbine? This approach wont require you to have a bunch of specialized tools, or to be very mechanichally inclined, and should stay within your budget, putting together the rifle itself for 650 or so...
        The nature of this rifle means that later on, down the road, if you want to get a fancier upper with a free float tune or whatever, or get the tools and parts and change yours later on, you can...
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: LEN on November 09, 2013, 08:13:25 AM
Guys he is 15. He needs some help, I think your a bit over his head on a build. I hope your parents support your hobby. If so maybe someone here. might be able to help. A build and get a better charming getter. In the mean time do searches and read about the AR and you can order build to your wants/needs.

LEN
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: Bofire on November 09, 2013, 09:53:16 AM
 :) Tikka T3  stainless 22-250.
Carl
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: ValleyHunter88 on November 09, 2013, 11:15:55 AM
Thanks for your input guys, I'm still thinking about which route I'm gonna go. I like working on guns, and I thin it would be fun to buy the parts and build it myself. I do have quite a bit of gun experience, I've been collecting, and my grandfather is a home gunsmith, and would be able to help me out with whatever I need. I do like the DPMS rifles, and I think they are reasonably priced, but I've got time to think on it.
Thanks, ValleyHunter88
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 09, 2013, 02:07:27 PM
If you aren't dead-set on a semi-auto .223, this is a great rifle and at $500.00, there is room for a decent scope and still meet your budget.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,138033.msg1851199/topicseen.html#new (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,138033.msg1851199/topicseen.html#new)
Title: Re: New Varmint Rifle
Post by: Blacklab on November 11, 2013, 07:36:38 AM
Thanks for your input guys, I'm still thinking about which route I'm gonna go. I like working on guns, and I thin it would be fun to buy the parts and build it myself. I do have quite a bit of gun experience, I've been collecting, and my grandfather is a home gunsmith, and would be able to help me out with whatever I need. I do like the DPMS rifles, and I think they are reasonably priced, but I've got time to think on it.
Thanks, ValleyHunter88


That's awesome valleyhunter about grandpa :tup: Have fun with your build sounds like your in great hands  ;)
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