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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Slamadoo on November 09, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
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I'm just curious as to how many of you guys have success calling in Blackies? Grunt tubes? Bleats? Rattling? I've never been very successfull hunting blacktails and was thinking of trying some new tactics this upcoming weekend.
Much Appreciated
Slamadoo
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I am new to calling blacktail as well, but the last day of modern I had a buck come in to estrus doe, buck grunt followed by rattling. Unfortanately he never stepped out for a good shot, although I think I made a mistake by setting up in an open area, I would try something with some cover.
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The rut is done around here but I have had great luck rattling and calling using the Primos "can". I prefer not to rattle as aggressively with blacktails as I do with whities. Not as hard of hits and more soft little tip tickles. And then there is rattling.. :chuckle:
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The rut is done around here but I have had great luck rattling and calling using the Primos "can". I prefer not to rattle as aggressively with blacktails as I do with whities. Not as hard of hits and more soft little tip tickles. And then there is rattling.. :chuckle:
I've rattled in a hundred plus whities but can't rattle in a blacktail for nothing! Maybe I rattle too aggressively. I'm probably 0-40 with b-tails.
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I ve been messin with the deer in the backyard all month..so far the only thing that kinda got a response was the fawn bawling .
The cool thing is there are a few bucks that have been sparring and the sound is very light, so I wouldn't get too aggressive with the rattle bags
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Get a good grunt tube and a Primos estrus can ....It works for me every year :tup: Not saying you call in deer everytime you go but covering a lot of ground and not given up is the key ingredient ...and when it does happen it is sooooo sweeeet !
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I appreciate all the advice. Do any of you guys ever use scent?
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I prefer Moccasin Joe's blacktail estrus scent. I squirt it on my boot, take a long hike around the area that I am about to rattle and then hang a small, white rag with some more scent on it up wind from where I think the buck will be coming from. I stay as scent free as possible with the exception of the doe pee. I have called bucks in and watched them turn and head directly to the pee rag throwing all caution to the wind, so to speak.
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I called in a few with fawn bleats this year. This to do is not to give up as its not like deer are behind every tree. Call awhile move on then try again.
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Year before last I accidentally rattled up a small blacktail buck in December while in my treestand. I hit my arrow against my riser a few times while making a couple of adjustments to my set up and all of a sudden this little 2 or 3 point (I can't remember which) came running in with his head up looking to see what the commotion was all about. :chuckle:
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The rut is done around here but I have had great luck rattling and calling using the Primos "can". I prefer not to rattle as aggressively with blacktails as I do with whities. Not as hard of hits and more soft little tip tickles. And then there is rattling.. :chuckle:
Done, really? I'm still seeing bucks glued to the rear ends of does around the island.
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Yeah. Our bucks peaked out just around Halloween, at least here locally. All the does are back with their fawns and hanging out together. The bucks have gone into hiding.
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What's gonna be the mood come Nov. 16-17? I'm putting all my chips into rattling and the can. I hate late modern and have to do it this year because I have a kid not tagged out yet
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I have my daughter and her best friend to try and get bucks next weekend. I'm hoping that I an find a couple of buck that are still interested in rattling, probably in the Shelton or Canyon River area if we can't find the big one that we called up during regular season but couldn't get a clear shot at..
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we'll be perched off of a nice rub line I found. No idea if the deer is still there or not. I've avoided the area so as to not muck it all up
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Good call! I know too many people that keep "scouting" a rub line over and over again before season only to push that buck into the next county.
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I found it on Oct 29 and didn't get a chance to put a kid on it after that. Hoping he's still there
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:tup:
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I rattled 3 bucks in this season :tup:
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Which Primos can is best? Is the Lil' can sufficient?
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I have the full size can and cover half of it with my hand. I got it before they started making smaller cans so I use what I have
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I use the little can and it works fine.
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The rut is done around here but I have had great luck rattling and calling using the Primos "can". I prefer not to rattle as aggressively with blacktails as I do with whities. Not as hard of hits and more soft little tip tickles. And then there is rattling.. :chuckle:
Polarbear...I disagree Sir. I watched a dandy buck yesterday. He could care less about my presence. A 30 second stare down within 30 yards of me. I could of killed him 10 times. Put his nose to the ground and meandered off. Later in the day I watched a couple of nice spikes with their noses literally up some does arses. I saw more bucks than does yesterday. It might be winding down but love is still in the air. At least in our backyards, if you will.
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This year is weird! The bucks around my place came in a couple of weeks earlier than those just a few miles down the road. We had 3 bucks fighting hard the last weekend of regular rifle season but have no interest in does right now. We had a 3 point in the yard eating acorns the other day and didn't want anything to do with the does feeding down in the pasture. In fact, it was almost like we was trying to avoid them. This is the same buck that was trying his hardest (no pun intended) to mount the same doe that he is avoiding from a couple of weeks ago. At the same time the bucks that my buddy was seeing in Vail and those that my Dad was watching in Shelton had zero interest in rutting at the same time that our locals were going crazy. I have heard many times this year how spotty the rut was and how much it varied from place to place. :dunno:
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Thats bizarre. I saw active rut activity from Alder Lake to Chehalis. Just hope they are still active on Thursday.
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:yeah:
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Those of you that have rattled in a few, what kind of set up do you use? Are you using tree stands? Ground blinds? Setting up near an active rub or rub lines?
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Okay, apparently I was wrong again. :chuckle: Just when it looked like everything had calmed down...... Last night around 11:30 or so I was sitting in the hot tub just soaking away when the motion light on my kids play house (about 40 yards away) went on. A big doe went scurrying up through the yard like it was trying to get away from something. I was done with my soak so I shut off the tub. As soon as the motors wound down all I could hear was the ground being torn up, antlers crashing and grunting down in the pasture about 100 yards away. By the time I got out and found a flashlight they had gone and set off the motion light on the barn. I went down to the pasture and it was all torn up and a couple of steaming pee spots. My cows were on the opposite side of the pasture bedded down so I know it wasn't them. I never did see them but they made one hell of a racket.
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I just had a big 3x3 cross Meridian out here in Graham, and he was still in the RUT!!
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Doesn't surprise me since some of the late blacktail permits are the 15th-20th. That 3rd weekend is a good time for the blacktail rut.
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I'm getting excited for this weekend!
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the ruts on here in mason county. on my permit hunt and watched a doe get pushed by my stand by a little spike today. no big boy in tow but did see him Saturday morning all rutted up. closest was 52 yards but no good shot :bash: two days left until its on to the late season. glad im seeing fresh rubs behind the house though, just in time! :IBCOOL:
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Im pretty friggin jacked myself! :bfg:
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This year is weird! The bucks around my place came in a couple of weeks earlier than those just a few miles down the road. We had 3 bucks fighting hard the last weekend of regular rifle season but have no interest in does right now. We had a 3 point in the yard eating acorns the other day and didn't want anything to do with the does feeding down in the pasture. In fact, it was almost like we was trying to avoid them. This is the same buck that was trying his hardest (no pun intended) to mount the same doe that he is avoiding from a couple of weeks ago. At the same time the bucks that my buddy was seeing in Vail and those that my Dad was watching in Shelton had zero interest in rutting at the same time that our locals were going crazy. I have heard many times this year how spotty the rut was and how much it varied from place to place. :dunno:
I always find this to be the case around the Snoqualmie area. I will hunt/scout an area and not see anything no new rubs, no evidence of chasing etc than move across the road a half mile away to another area and the rut is on. Always seems to be very localized.
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Regarding the rut, I was hiding behind a log elk hunting in 572 yesterday, and I thought I was going to have to shoot a big stocky forked horn in self defense to keep him from violating me, so the rut is still going on up there...
When I lived in Oregon, I grunted in a blacktail buck in the Tillamook State forest. I was so surprised it worked I got excited and moved around too quick and spooked him.
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Saturday I saw a two point in a pasture chasing the heck out of a doe around he field over and over. Then today I saw a monster with his head to the ground running a fence line in town.
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I like using real antler to rattle. The natural sound seems to work a little better for me, its not as loud but I get better results. Well, from the does at least, they always come to check it out, but only one buck that I have seen come in to mine, the first year I tried rattling. Was late rifle buck a couple years ago, the rut was heavy here at that time. But he wasnt looking for the fight, the doe he was chasing came in head up ears perked and came right to me. Pretty much everything I learned about rattling blacktails came from Scott Haugen's book Trophy Blacktails. That book is chock full of great info, you may have to adapt it to your local animals once you know them better but it gave me a great start. I mix it up, heavy ratting at one set up, and just light stuff at the next or so. Find a club and hit the ground a few times during it, like deer stomping their foot. Had a few does and one spike come into that without any other rattling or calling. The best thing to do in my experience is to experiement and just keep plugging away at it.
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I just wanted to thank everyone on here for their help and advice. I went out yesterday and tagged my first Blacktail. It was awesome. Story and pictures to follow.
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I called this one in yesterday with a few grunts some rattling and a doe estrus call. He came in within 5 minutes of my setup. This was my third setup of the morning. This is the first one I have ever got to come in so I was pretty excited to have finally been able to make it work.
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So, here is the story.
After reading the replies on here and doing quite a bit of internet scouting I finally came up with a plan about mid-week. Thursday after work I stopped by the local sporting goods store and purchased a grunt tube, bleat can, and some doe urine.
Friday morning I happened to come down with a nasty fever. Buck Fever.
I helped the wife pack up the son and head off for work and day care respectively, packed a lunch, threw my gear in the truck, and headed out.I got a little bit of a late start but was okay with that because, 1) I was deer hunting, and 2) I wasn't at work on a Friday. As I was nearing my chosen location it was snowing lightly. I knew that a storm was supposedly coming but figured I could get some hunting in and get out before any major snow hit the ground.
Eventually I found a good spot to park and stretch my legs. I worked my way down into an old clear cut. I started seeing deer tracks right away but couldn't tell how fresh they were because they had been covered in snow. They obviously weren't from that morning but I decided it was a good sign nonetheless. As I weaved my way through the reprod I began pouring doe urine on tree branches every so often. I sprinkled in a few bleats and grunts. After an hour or so the snow was picking up and I headed towards some old growth. Destiny awaited.
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I just had a big 3x3 cross Meridian out here in Graham, and he was still in the RUT!!
I seen a huge 3x3 a year ago standing right in the middle of graham hill all rutted up, and stupid.
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At the edge of the old growth I began moving from tree to tree. About five trees in I pulled out the bleat can and let out a squeal. It wasn't 30 seconds before I saw him. About 50 yards above me he stepped out from behind a tree and looked right down at me. I froze. I couldn't believe it. It was almost as if he had been conjured out of thin air. Immediately I knew he was big. Wide and tall. "He's a f@&$ing Monster" I thought to myself. I slowly moved my rifle from my left hand into my right and into shooting position. He didn't move. I pulled up and brought my crosshairs on him but I was trembling. Still, he stood, staring downhill. I took a deep breath, re-adjusted, and squeezed one off. BANG! He jumped up and took off like a freight train downhill. I took two more shots at him as he flew through the trees. He vanished. Doubt crept into my mind.
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At the edge of the old growth I began moving from tree to tree. About five trees in I pulled out the bleat can and let out a squeal. It wasn't 30 seconds before I saw him. About 50 yards above me he stepped out from behind a tree and looked right down at me. I froze. I couldn't believe it. It was almost as if he had been conjured out of thin air. Immediately I knew he was big. Wide and tall. "He's a f@&$ing Monster" I thought to myself. I slowly moved my rifle from my left hand into my right and into shooting position. He didn't move. I pulled up and brought my crosshairs on him but I was trembling. Still, he stood, staring downhill. I took a deep breath, re-adjusted, and squeezed one off. BANG! He jumped up and took off like a freight train downhill. I took two more shots at him as he flew through the trees. He vanished. Doubt crept into my mind.
Was that the end of the story? Did you miss? :dunno:
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Hey Slamadoo.....I'm going nuts! How about "The Rest Of The Story" :dunno:
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The suspense! :chuckle:
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Had to bump this back to the top so you didn't forget to finish your story slamadoo :dunno:
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My heart was pounding. Adrenaline pumping. I scampered up the hill to where he had been. I saw his jump marks and then his blood. I tracked him downhill for a couple hundred yards. Eventually I found him, peering at me through the timber. Two more shots and the job was finished.
As I walked up to him I was filled with both a sense of accomplishment and sorrow. This was a beautifull animal that I had killed. I paid my respects and got to work.
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Here he is.
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Nice buck, I would have to go back to past years pictures to be sure but I think this year is tops for quality blacktail buck pictures.
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After gutting him and attempting to drag him 10 yards I realized that the REAL work hadn't even started. By no means was this going to be my first packout, but it was definately my first solo attempt. My first strategy was to cut him in half and drag him out in two trips. That wasn't going to happen with the slippery snow and deadfall. Eventually with some skinning and sawing I was able to strap the back half onto my pack and start up the hill towards my truck. After an hour and a half hike I made it to the truck. I threw the half into the bed, put my rifle in the cab, grabbed a sandwich, some water and descended once more into the hole.
I quickly calculated that daylight was running short and with the snow piling up and nearly a foot in the forecast, I had limited time to get out without incident.
When I reached the buck, I immediately began caping him out. This Buck was going to hang on my wall. It was my first Blacktail and I was damn proud of him. After 5 minutes or so I heard a very loud and animalistic sound behind me. I nearly jumped out of my skin in an attempt to turn and see what was making the noise. I didnt see anything. I yelled in as frightening a voice as I could muster,"Hey, Get Outta Here!" Snap! Snap! The sound of branches being broken under foot. I quickly deduced that there was most likely a large predator down wind of the buck carcass and my deer blood covered body.
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Rifleless, I clutched my knife. The wind howled at my back. My mind raced. The snow wasn't letting up. Dark was approaching. Who knew what was beyond the trees. Watching. Waiting.
I made the decision to get all the meat that I could, as fast as I could, and to leave. As quickly as I could, I carved off neck meat. Cut out loins. Removed front quarters. The last thing I took was the heart. The cape would have to stay. I cut the neck high in an attempt to get all the neck meat I could. I filled my pack with meat, grabbed the head and left.
Slowly I inched up the hill. It wasn't long before my legs began to cramp. At first the right quad. Then the left calf. Eventually both legs in agonizing pain. "Would I make it off this hill?" "Could I crawl back to the truck if I had to?"
I cursed myself and these thoughts of weakness. Yelling at myself to "Walk It Off!" I forced march up the hill.
Reaching the truck was truly a great feeling. I thanked god for the freedom to hunt these amazing animals and for the opportunity to provide for my family. The work had been hard as hell, but it was easily my most rewarding and memorable hunt/packout. In hindsight, I really wish I would have kept that cape, but at the time I made what I thought was the best decision. Oh well, thats life. Watching that buck walk out from behind that tree and stare at me through the dark timber is something I will never forget. It is burned in my mind.
I can't wait for my next chance to hunt Blacktails in the Rut.
Slamadoo
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Bravo, I love the story, one word... pistol. It gets spooky quick after dark or in the dark timber any time day or night. Great buck!
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Great story and a great buck! Nice work slamadoo :IBCOOL:
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Well done! Good story and a nice buck.
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Rifleless, I clutched my knife. The wind howled at my back. My mind raced. The snow wasn't letting up. Dark was approaching. Who knew what was beyond the trees. Watching. Waiting.
I made the decision to get all the meat that I could, as fast as I could, and to leave. As quickly as I could, I carved off neck meat. Cut out loins. Removed front quarters. The last thing I took was the heart. The cape would have to stay. I cut the neck high in an attempt to get all the neck meat I could. I filled my pack with meat, grabbed the head and left.
Slowly I inched up the hill. It wasn't long before my legs began to cramp. At first the right quad. Then the left calf. Eventually both legs in agonizing pain. "Would I make it off this hill?" "Could I crawl back to the truck if I had to?"
I cursed myself and these thoughts of weakness. Yelling at myself to "Walk It Off!" I forced march up the hill.
Reaching the truck was truly a great feeling. I thanked god for the freedom to hunt these amazing animals and for the opportunity to provide for my family. The work had been hard as hell, but it was easily my most rewarding and memorable hunt/packout. In hindsight, I really wish I would have kept that cape, but at the time I made what I thought was the best decision. Oh well, thats life. Watching that buck walk out from behind that tree and stare at me through the dark timber is something I will never forget. It is burned in my mind.
I can't wait for my next chance to hunt Blacktails in the Rut.
Slamadoo
now ...that was a great story ...well earned buck ....and usually when they respond to a call they are close and are on you quick !!! Good job & a dandy buck ! :tup: