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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: huntandjeep on November 20, 2013, 04:00:01 PM

Title: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 20, 2013, 04:00:01 PM: I know this is like a Ford vs Chevy debate but just trying to figure out which is the better deal. The RCBS Rock chucker supreme master kit comes with the press, 505 powder scale, uniflow powder measure, Speer #14 book, hand primer tool, hex tool kit, case lube kit, universal case loading block, powder funnel, deburring tool and $50 cash rebate. The Hornandy Lock and load classic kit comes with the press, powder measure, 1500grain digital scale, 3 lock and load bushings, primer catcher, hand primer, universal reloading block, chambering and deburring tool, powder trickler, powder funnel, case lube, Hornady book (and if I buy on black Friday a Hornady Sonic cleaner for $.99) I have always been thinking the RCBS but the Hornady sonic cleaner for $.99 has me thinking differently. I know either of these will do the job but is there any pros or cons to either. Thanks Allen
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: C-Money on November 20, 2013, 04:09:32 PM: I have the RCBS, but the digital scale sounds inviting in the Hornaday kit. Follow your gut, dont think you will go wrong either way. Reloading is a very rewarding hobie!!
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 20, 2013, 05:44:12 PM: I've used RCBS, Dillion & Harrel's presses. RCBS as my standard, Dillon for my progressive stuff and a Harrell's Magnum press for my precision stuff. I have used friends Hornady presses and I liked them, they felt solid and smooth. Can't go wrong with either, I guess your scale preference will be your deciding factor between the two your deciding between.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 20, 2013, 05:57:35 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on November 20, 2013, 05:44:12 PM
I've used RCBS, Dillion & Harrel's presses. RCBS as my standard, Dillon for my progressive stuff and a Harrell's Magnum press for my precision stuff. I have used friends Hornady presses and I liked them, they felt solid and smooth. Can't go wrong with either, I guess your scale preference will be your deciding factor between the two your deciding between.
. Why not use the RCBS for your precision stuff? Only reason im considering the Hornady is for the sonic cleaner.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Wacenturion on November 20, 2013, 09:41:19 PM: You'll also get 500 free bullets with the Hornady kit per their "Get Loaded 2013" promotion. Make sure you factor that in....another $130-$150 you 'll eventually save.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Jeeper on November 21, 2013, 06:35:27 AM: I believe RCBS are now built in China, not sure about Hornady. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 21, 2013, 06:39:27 AM: I have the Hornady and have a lot of free .224 bullets from buying it and other Hornady promotional items.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 21, 2013, 12:11:35 PM: Quote from: huntandjeep on November 20, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
Quote from: Biggerhammer on November 20, 2013, 05:44:12 PM
I've used RCBS, Dillion & Harrel's presses. RCBS as my standard, Dillon for my progressive stuff and a Harrell's Magnum press for my precision stuff. I have used friends Hornady presses and I liked them, they felt solid and smooth. Can't go wrong with either, I guess your scale preference will be your deciding factor between the two your deciding between.
. Why not use the RCBS for your precision stuff? Only reason im considering the Hornady is for the sonic cleaner.

Don't get me wrong, the RCBS is a great press. It is well capable and has loaded many a accurate cartridge for me. I like how smooth and well built the Harrell is.

This 300 yard group was shot with cartridges loaded by a 25 year old RCBS press and your basic RCBS .338 Ultra neck sizer and seater were used for my .338 Edge.

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Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: KFhunter on November 21, 2013, 12:14:26 PM: where are you finding the black friday special?
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 21, 2013, 04:22:53 PM: Quote from: Wacenturion on November 20, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
You'll also get 500 free bullets with the Hornady kit per their "Get Loaded 2013" promotion. Make sure you factor that in....another $130-$150 you 'll eventually save.
. Is the 500 free bullets limited to Hornady bullets ? The rifle I'm going to reload for loves 168 Bergers .
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 21, 2013, 04:23:58 PM: Quote from: KFhunter on November 21, 2013, 12:14:26 PM
where are you finding the black friday special?
. Googled " Cabelas black Friday 2013 " and just got the mailer today.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Rick on November 21, 2013, 07:27:46 PM: Quote from: huntandjeep on November 21, 2013, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: Wacenturion on November 20, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
You'll also get 500 free bullets with the Hornady kit per their "Get Loaded 2013" promotion. Make sure you factor that in....another $130-$150 you 'll eventually save.
. Is the 500 free bullets limited to Hornady bullets ? The rifle I'm going to reload for loves 168 Bergers .

Yes they're Hornady bullets. Just their basic soft point style.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 21, 2013, 09:24:46 PM: Got a RCBS rock chucker that is about 25 years old. I guess I have probably loaded close to 50,000 rounds with it and it has never let me down. I have a Hornady Lock n Load progressive and have loaded about 20,000 rounds and it is only 4 four years old. Can't go wrong with either, but the free bullets is a sweet deal.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Wacenturion on November 21, 2013, 10:07:36 PM: Quote from: huntandjeep on November 21, 2013, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: Wacenturion on November 20, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
You'll also get 500 free bullets with the Hornady kit per their "Get Loaded 2013" promotion. Make sure you factor that in....another $130-$150 you 'll eventually save.
. Is the 500 free bullets limited to Hornady bullets ? The rifle I'm going to reload for loves 168 Bergers .

Yes....the list of bullet choices are on the promotion form you send in. They are Hornady bullets. Go to the Hornady site and download it.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Rick on November 22, 2013, 07:39:17 AM: On a different note,the reviews of the sonic cleaner I've read aren't very good. It takes multiple cleaning cycles to get cases clean,and even after they're clean,they're not polished like a tumbler will provide.

A sonic cleaner for basically free is a no brainer though.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 22, 2013, 05:31:19 PM: Quote from: Rick on November 22, 2013, 07:39:17 AM
On a different note,the reviews of the sonic cleaner I've read aren't very good. It takes multiple cleaning cycles to get cases clean,and even after they're clean,they're not polished like a tumbler will provide.

A sonic cleaner for basically free is a no brainer though.
. Ya I've read the same thing . That's why I'm thinking RCBS and use the $50 rebate towards a digital scale or tumbler/ better sonic cleaner.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Swatson on November 23, 2013, 03:45:26 PM: RCBS rock chucker also offers free 500 rounds of speer(or a $50) right now as well.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: Wacenturion on November 23, 2013, 08:55:27 PM: Quote from: huntandjeep on November 22, 2013, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: Rick on November 22, 2013, 07:39:17 AM
On a different note,the reviews of the sonic cleaner I've read aren't very good. It takes multiple cleaning cycles to get cases clean,and even after they're clean,they're not polished like a tumbler will provide.

A sonic cleaner for basically free is a no brainer though.
. Ya I've read the same thing . That's why I'm thinking RCBS and use the $50 rebate towards a digital scale or tumbler/ better sonic cleaner.

Most of that is due to overloading the basket.
Title: Re: Hornady classic kit vs RCBS master kit.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 24, 2013, 10:26:41 AM: So the only extras I would have to buy on top of the kit would be ? Obviously a set of dies for my calibers. How do you know which ones to get? Midway USA has listed for my 7 mm a 2 die set, neck sizer 2 die set, neck sizer only, full length sizer die only, seater die, trim die, x-die full length sizer 2 die set, x- die full length sizer die only, gold medal match series 2 die, gold medal match 2 die neck sizer set, gold medal neck sizer die only, gold medal full length sizer die only, and a gold medal seater die only. Alot of these dies are also the same for .270 win and 22-250 which are the calibers I will be reloading. What about calipers, micrometers, case trimmer, powder measure stand. Sorry if these are dumb questions just looking a catalogs and there's ALOT of stuff in them for reloading.