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Other Hunting => Waterfowl => Topic started by: seth30 on November 30, 2013, 07:15:52 AM

Title: legal question
Post by: seth30 on November 30, 2013, 07:15:52 AM
While sea duck hunting yesterday a seal kept swimming around and nosing my decoys.  we thought it was funny but turns out he bit the bottom of half my decoys and I know have a lot of patchwork to do.  In the future what can I legally do to stop a seal from doing it again?
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: Coasthunterjay on November 30, 2013, 07:51:40 AM
Unfortunately nothing...as far as I know seals are protected federally. Sorry bro.
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: lokidog on November 30, 2013, 08:41:18 AM
Can't trace pellets....  JK, unfortunately the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972 gives these wolves of the sea free reign.

A shot into the water near him may be enough to chase him away for a while, too bad you missed the duck that was there though.   ;)
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: snowpack on November 30, 2013, 08:47:42 AM
Do you know any tribal members that can go with you?  As long as they aren't tagged out on seals.
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: lokidog on November 30, 2013, 09:03:09 AM
Just wait until they take a duck before you can get to it.   :bash:
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 30, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Big time federal protection, you know, because they're endangered.

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/laws/mmpa/ (http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/laws/mmpa/)
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: Annette on November 30, 2013, 10:00:54 AM
maybe  put Vicks on the bottom of them...
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: PolarBear on November 30, 2013, 10:04:20 AM
Seal bombs
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: seth30 on November 30, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
Thanks for the inputs.  I figured there wasn't much I could do.  Maybe I will slap a oar on the water next time and hopefully that scares them a little.
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: Fishnclifff on December 01, 2013, 12:36:53 PM
Wrist rocket and marbles or rocks.
You can harass them with non-lethal ammo.
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 02, 2013, 05:51:26 AM
Wrist rocket and marbles or rocks.
You can harass them with non-lethal ammo.

I'd love to see that regulation.
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: WSU on December 02, 2013, 02:50:08 PM
Wrist rocket and marbles or rocks.
You can harass them with non-lethal ammo.

I'd love to see that regulation.

Here is NOAA's explanation: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:nymy5YbLApYJ:www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mammals/Seals-and-Sea-Lions/upload/Deter-Pinnipeds.pdf+noaa+sealion+hazing&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiBz9hkhbUy0TkKF8AjzCv3NhxxCYHkp9NmoVS9x1ewWQUFiP3kik_f7kPMRc0Gv7TfGmptZSVSkHo5rVkhCAP-0dDADRiicBnrQ5ObY-6e-vplFir0HEMUvK48TPKN3mzY5EOK&sig=AHIEtbTNMcWfLBhMkQb1PswUcUAaq2eAlQ (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:nymy5YbLApYJ:www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mammals/Seals-and-Sea-Lions/upload/Deter-Pinnipeds.pdf+noaa+sealion+hazing&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiBz9hkhbUy0TkKF8AjzCv3NhxxCYHkp9NmoVS9x1ewWQUFiP3kik_f7kPMRc0Gv7TfGmptZSVSkHo5rVkhCAP-0dDADRiicBnrQ5ObY-6e-vplFir0HEMUvK48TPKN3mzY5EOK&sig=AHIEtbTNMcWfLBhMkQb1PswUcUAaq2eAlQ)
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 02, 2013, 03:01:31 PM
So these hazing regulations cover private property and fishing. It says nothing about allowing hazing for hunters.  :dunno:
Title: Re: legal question
Post by: lokidog on December 03, 2013, 12:27:02 AM
So these hazing regulations cover private property and fishing. It says nothing about allowing hazing for hunters.  :dunno:

If you can haze for fishing or property issues, you should be able to haze for hunting protection of either your property (decoys), your kill, or your dog.  You loving those seals there Piano?   :chuckle:
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