Post by: deadwoodbuck on December 05, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 05, 2013, 04:04:45 PM
Post by: hntrspud on December 05, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Leave it plugged in all night, the cost is minimal and you will have a little more heat in the morning. It won't do enough in 45 minutes to give you any amount of "heat" through your defroster/heater unit. :twocents:
:yeah: Plug it in when youi get home. I do every night with my diesel. Thats what the heaters are there for. It also, at times, will keep your windshield somewhat defrosted. Like he said, heat comes faster when the water is already warm. :tup:
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 05, 2013, 04:11:37 PM
IIRC, the Dodge heaters are 750w which is a little over 6 amps of electrical draw. For the amount of time you really need to use it, the cost is fairly minimal.
Or, you could be cheap like me, and get a good timer that can handle the power requirements and set the timer to turn on the heater 3-4 hours before you leave in the morning. But I have 2 Dodge's that me/she drive daily.....
Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2013, 04:33:40 PM
About 3 hours to get a complete heating job.
IIRC, the Dodge heaters are 750w which is a little over 6 amps of electrical draw. For the amount of time you really need to use it, the cost is fairly minimal.
Or, you could be cheap like me, and get a good timer that can handle the power requirements and set the timer to turn on the heater 3-4 hours before you leave in the morning. But I have 2 Dodge's that me/she drive daily.....
:yeah:
Those heavy duty air conditioner timers work well for this.
http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-TN311C-Heavy-Grounded-Timer/dp/B00002N5FO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1386289955&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+timer+120v (http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-TN311C-Heavy-Grounded-Timer/dp/B00002N5FO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1386289955&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+timer+120v)
Post by: STED9r on December 05, 2013, 04:42:28 PM
About 3 hours to get a complete heating job.This,
IIRC, the Dodge heaters are 750w which is a little over 6 amps of electrical draw. For the amount of time you really need to use it, the cost is fairly minimal.
Or, you could be cheap like me, and get a good timer that can handle the power requirements and set the timer to turn on the heater 3-4 hours before you leave in the morning. But I have 2 Dodge's that me/she drive daily.....
Not gaining anything over 3 hours other than paying a bit more for juice and depending on coolant conditions, cacking heater element with suspended deposits.
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 05, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Exact same one I have. Plugged into the garage. A 25' 14/2 with a 3 way on the end ran out under the garage door to a pair of 25' 14/2 plugged into the trucks.About 3 hours to get a complete heating job.
IIRC, the Dodge heaters are 750w which is a little over 6 amps of electrical draw. For the amount of time you really need to use it, the cost is fairly minimal.
Or, you could be cheap like me, and get a good timer that can handle the power requirements and set the timer to turn on the heater 3-4 hours before you leave in the morning. But I have 2 Dodge's that me/she drive daily.....
:yeah:
Those heavy duty air conditioner timers work well for this.
http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-TN311C-Heavy-Grounded-Timer/dp/B00002N5FO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1386289955&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+timer+120v (http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-TN311C-Heavy-Grounded-Timer/dp/B00002N5FO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1386289955&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+timer+120v)
Use another one for the Christmas lights too.
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 05, 2013, 04:57:43 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2013, 05:01:15 PM
gotta keep the boys warm 8)
Post by: JLS on December 05, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
Exact same one I have. Plugged into the garage. A 25' 14/2 with a 3 way on the end ran out under the garage door to a pair of 25' 14/2 plugged into the trucks.About 3 hours to get a complete heating job.
IIRC, the Dodge heaters are 750w which is a little over 6 amps of electrical draw. For the amount of time you really need to use it, the cost is fairly minimal.
Or, you could be cheap like me, and get a good timer that can handle the power requirements and set the timer to turn on the heater 3-4 hours before you leave in the morning. But I have 2 Dodge's that me/she drive daily.....
:yeah:
Those heavy duty air conditioner timers work well for this.
http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-TN311C-Heavy-Grounded-Timer/dp/B00002N5FO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1386289955&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+timer+120v (http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-TN311C-Heavy-Grounded-Timer/dp/B00002N5FO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1386289955&sr=1-1&keywords=heavy+duty+timer+120v)
Use another one for the Christmas lights too.
I have a very similar one, I think I got it at Home Depot or Ace. I like to give it at least 2 hours, and 3 is better. I agree, 45 minutes isn't enough to accomplish much.
Post by: JLS on December 05, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
Remote start is kind of a nice feature too. Particularly for the truck that has the seat heaters which it will turn on. :chuckle:
Sure wish I had heated seats. My dog does too. >:(
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 05, 2013, 07:15:58 PM
My dog does a fine job of seat heating when I run in the store though.
Post by: deadwoodbuck on December 06, 2013, 09:04:10 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 06, 2013, 10:45:56 AM
hey thanks for some great information. I do have a timer that I can use but just plugging it in all night is a pretty good idea. I didn't know how much of a draw it would be but it sounds like not really all that much. I don't have to worry about my seat heater since I don't have one of those. so now I can be alittle more in tune with the truck. I had to search for the block heater cord that the previous owner never used. thanks to you guys...I am that much closer to being qualified on my dodge diesel... :IBCOOL:The cost really is a non factor it's so low, and it's only a few months out of the year. Pass on the Starbucks just once over the same period and you will likely be way ahead. :twocents:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 06, 2013, 11:06:49 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 06, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
My neighbor has a diesel Ford. He plugs it in every night. Bet it's a lot easier on the engine start-up, even with glow plugs.I plug mine in at night as well.
Post by: whitey on December 06, 2013, 11:13:11 AM
My neighbor has a diesel Ford. He plugs it in every night. Bet it's a lot easier on the engine start-up, even with glow plugs.I plug mine in at night as well.
Yep me to. The truck starts so much easier.
Post by: deadwoodbuck on December 06, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Post by: washelkhunter on December 06, 2013, 02:03:43 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 06, 2013, 02:25:23 PM
done...i'm pluggin it in when I get home from work and see what happens in the morning...hopefully it won't be a smoking heap of rubble...thanksIf your heater is working you will be amazed how fast it cranks and starts in the morning. :tup:
Post by: Rick on December 06, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 06, 2013, 02:57:14 PM
Much nicer semi-cold starts! (Not to mention the new/rebuilt Fuel Injection Control Module with an Atlas40 tune)
-Steve
Post by: Dick in the Dirt on December 06, 2013, 02:57:39 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 06, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
When you plug your truck in sure and hang the cord over your mirror.There will be days that your in a hurry,and the cord is following you to work.Almost as funny as a gas nozzle. :chuckle: :chuckle:
In 180,000 miles, I did this ONCE! Glad it was a short cord.
Post by: snocohunter on December 06, 2013, 09:23:12 PM
750watt element just a monitor heater, next time you drain the antifreeze stepup to a 1250-1500W. Instant cabin heat/defrost even at subzero temps.
Where do you get the upgraded element? I hate a cold truck in the morning. And don't trust my crack head neighbors with it idling for 20min
Post by: Hawgdawg on December 06, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
I guess that's old school cause I had one truck for 3 years and never took the key's out of it.
Post by: wildweeds on December 06, 2013, 10:02:57 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 07, 2013, 10:00:39 AM
Post by: biggfish on December 08, 2013, 12:08:45 AM
Post by: DRobnsn on December 08, 2013, 12:35:39 AM
The purpose of the block heater is for start up, diesels don't like to start under 30 degrees, so it won't take for ever for your glow plugs to heat up enough for start up. If its giving you a head start on having heat in the cab that just a by product.
Cummins don't have glow plugs. Only a grid heater in the intake. When I plugged mine in during temps like this there was no need to even wait for the grid heater to run just fire it up.
Post by: buglebuster on December 08, 2013, 04:40:08 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on December 08, 2013, 05:26:27 AM
Post by: biggfish on December 08, 2013, 11:24:51 AM
Post by: STED9r on December 08, 2013, 05:34:36 PM
I can go out and hit the key in my Duramax and it fires right off. Instantaneously. Even in this cold weather. Thats without even being plugged in. The quicker heat would be nice though.got that there fancy ESPAR heater on the frame rail? Its half the size of a shoe box. Nice units and all automatic, never even know its there.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
-Steve
Post by: SFD2015 on December 08, 2013, 08:19:46 PM
Post by: longrangekiller on December 08, 2013, 08:36:39 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 08, 2013, 09:27:14 PM
What kind of issues do I potentially face leaving my 98 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel plugged in? It isn't my daily driver and have left it plugged in for about a week or so when it gets really cold before I get it out on the road. Am i screwing anything up leaving it plugged in like that (other than the environment and my electric bill)? I do like the idea of a timer.No issues at all, its like leaving it for a week in 80* temps without it plugged in. Only difference is the added expense on your power bill.
Post by: huntnphool on December 08, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
So just curious sence your on the subject I work 10 days in Montana and 4 days in wa I leave my truck plugged in while I'm gone for that 10 days is that bad?No
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 09, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
What kind of issues do I potentially face leaving my 98 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel plugged in? It isn't my daily driver and have left it plugged in for about a week or so when it gets really cold before I get it out on the road. Am i screwing anything up leaving it plugged in like that (other than the environment and my electric bill)? I do like the idea of a timer.Reducing the useful life of the heater is all.
No real reason to leave it plugged in semi continuously unless you get into the sub zero temp zone - assuming your antifreeze is in good shape of course.
12v or 24v? Just curious....
Post by: Rick on December 09, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
But you're not doing your DuraIsuzu any good in cold weather by just firing it up and driving before it gets warm.
I disagree 100% . IMO its more harmful to let a diesel sit and try to warm up at an idle. A diesel will warm up faster by putting a load on the engine (driving it) than it ever will by just sitting and idling.
Get in,start the engine,buckle up,find a radio station and drive away. Of course no hammering on it until the engine oil is up to operating temps.
Post by: KFhunter on December 09, 2013, 12:09:40 PM
12v
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 09, 2013, 12:12:07 PM
Mine has advanced timing - I have to let it warm up:chuckle:
12v
Anything north of 18* injection pump timing and they get really cranky when it's cold if you don't.
Post by: huntnphool on December 09, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
As high as my oil pressure is in my Powerstrokes no way do I drive away without letting it run a bit to thin the oil, that's how you blow seals. :twocents:But you're not doing your DuraIsuzu any good in cold weather by just firing it up and driving before it gets warm.
I disagree 100% . IMO its more harmful to let a diesel sit and try to warm up at an idle. A diesel will warm up faster by putting a load on the engine (driving it) than it ever will by just sitting and idling.
Get in,start the engine,buckle up,find a radio station and drive away. Of course no hammering on it until the engine oil is up to operating temps.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 09, 2013, 04:40:41 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 09, 2013, 05:21:48 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2013, 10:15:33 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 12, 2013, 10:53:22 AM
Things that have went out on the engine; Waterpump, alt, lift pump, glow plugs, vac pump, oil sender and the o-ring on the dip stick/oil pan. You should all worry more about your tranny's than your engines!
So you guys with OCD should get to 700,000 plus. :tup:
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 12, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 12, 2013, 12:29:28 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 12, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
:yeah:I am on my 4th auto! :chuckle::chuckle:
I know of your type.
They refer to their auto trans as the prisoner. :chuckle:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 12, 2013, 12:42:45 PM
Have you guys tried this?
you ever forget that its there before starting next time? :bdid:
Post by: baker5150 on December 12, 2013, 04:05:54 PM
But you're not doing your DuraIsuzu any good in cold weather by just firing it up and driving before it gets warm.
I disagree 100% . IMO its more harmful to let a diesel sit and try to warm up at an idle. A diesel will warm up faster by putting a load on the engine (driving it) than it ever will by just sitting and idling.
Get in,start the engine,buckle up,find a radio station and drive away. Of course no hammering on it until the engine oil is up to operating temps.
If you have a cummins you can enable the 'Idle Up Feature" which, well, does just that. It idles up the engine, warming it up faster.
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 12, 2013, 11:03:37 PM
If you really want to get fancy, ground out pin 22 in the PDC and you can then use your cruise control and the set feature on that to set your chosen idle RPM. Adjust the idle RPM up/down just like you would adjust your speed on cruise.
If you have a cummins you can enable the 'Idle Up Feature" which, well, does just that. It idles up the engine, warming it up faster.
And just to clarify, this works on model years 2003 thru the early 2007's with the 5.9's. Not certain if it works on model years with the 6.7's.
Post by: DRobnsn on December 13, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
http://youtu.be/IMFxtdID5ng (http://youtu.be/IMFxtdID5ng)
Post by: DRobnsn on December 13, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
http://youtu.be/irrqlChGcWI (http://youtu.be/irrqlChGcWI)
Post by: KFhunter on December 13, 2013, 01:37:33 PM
I have this trouble when I go snowmobiling, I always park at the top of the mountain then head down and my truck never warms up. I freeze my sack off after a hard day of riding I'm bagged out and can't get warm
Post by: DRobnsn on December 13, 2013, 01:41:34 PM
anyone got any ideas (other than cardboard in front of the radiator) that'll get my truck warm when coming down off the mountain?
I have this trouble when I go snowmobiling, I always park at the top of the mountain then head down and my truck never warms up. I freeze my sack off after a hard day of riding I'm bagged out and can't get warm
Do you have a exhaust brake? Your running a 12ver right?
Post by: KFhunter on December 13, 2013, 01:46:31 PM
and will have a lockout switch.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 13, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
The kid drove it here in here like that. Customer complaint was a "hot smell from under the hood" :tup: :chuckle: :chuckle:Have you guys tried this?
you ever forget that its there before starting next time? :bdid:
My sarcasm meter was pegged when writing up that diag.
Post by: DRobnsn on December 13, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
12v auto no exhaust brake although I plan to eventually since I have a HD torque converter, stainless clutch basket, and higher pressure VB and a deep well mag hytec pan w/ temp guage installed.
and will have a lockout switch.rd
Have you done anything with the thermostat? I think your best bet for staying warm downhill is the ebrake and cardboard or zip up grill type cover. You probably already know this but trucks with bigger turbo's and more fuel do warm up faster than stock trucks.
My 01 had a full billet auto trans with the lockup switch a few hundred hp additions for power and I had the stock hy for a bit then went to a hx35 and ended up with an hx40 for while before I sold it. With the 40 on the truck it was up to operating temp in less than half of the original time no matter what the outside temp was. With the hy and the hx35 I would be 10 miles into my basically flat trip to work at freeway speeds before up to operating temp. When I put the 40 on it would be up to temp by the time I got to the on ramp which is only about a little over a mile from my house. Plugging it in helped in both situations but wasn't as significant after the turbo change. BTW egt's ran around 500-600 degrees with the smaller turbo's under normal driving and 800-900 after I put on the 40.
Post by: Rick on December 13, 2013, 07:13:26 PM
If you really want your Cummins to warm up quick enable the high idle feature, install a exhaust brake unless you have a 6.7 they come with them. Enable the 3 cyl cutout feature and run them all while warming up. It will be up to operating temp real quick.
http://youtu.be/IMFxtdID5ng (http://youtu.be/IMFxtdID5ng)
I installed a Pacbrake PRXB on my '07 5.9 CTD. High idle with the brake engaged got things warm in a hurry.