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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: splitshot on December 14, 2013, 09:50:43 PM

Title: no tulammo?
Post by: splitshot on December 14, 2013, 09:50:43 PM: have a
Taurus 738 that wont accept tulammo 380 in the chamber. anyone else have that trouble? cleaned it , etc. it shoots other ammo. mike w
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: FC on December 15, 2013, 09:39:26 AM: Sounds kinda weird, how does it not fit? Worst case scenario I have a 380 too and will take the ammo off of your hands :chuckle:
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 15, 2013, 02:14:05 PM: There are lot of reports of Tulammo not chambering in many different chambers/chartridges/calibers. Russian company/products now marketed in the states. You get what you pay for. It is cheap stuff. I'd actually trust that the Taurus chamber is built to Sammi spec. From what I've read, I wouldn't trust that Tulammo is a quality product built to sami specifications.

-Steve
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 15, 2013, 02:30:43 PM: Most of that Russian ammo is steel cased, and shoots well in Russian and some European guns, but I wouldn't use it as a personal choice. The older steel cased ammo used a coating that melted and stuck to the walls of the chamber, and if the gun has a tight chamber--well, you know...
I was given a box of steel cased 9mm Parabellum ammo, and I shot it in my HK-94 that has a fluted chamber, but I would not have used it otherwise.

(FC will probably flame me because he loves the stuff!) :chuckle:
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: FC on December 15, 2013, 11:03:54 PM: Quote from: Heredoggydoggy on December 15, 2013, 02:30:43 PM

(FC will probably flame me because he loves the stuff!) :chuckle:

It's some awfully cheap practice ammo for sure!

Someone posted this article on here recently that was very informative on using steel case vs brass case stuff. It also pretty well debunked the old coating melting in the chamber myth.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/ (http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/)
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 16, 2013, 09:54:13 AM: Quote from: FC on December 15, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: Heredoggydoggy on December 15, 2013, 02:30:43 PM

(FC will probably flame me because he loves the stuff!) :chuckle:

It's some awfully cheap practice ammo for sure!

Someone posted this article on here recently that was very informative on using steel case vs brass case stuff. It also pretty well debunked the old coating melting in the chamber myth.

Didn't see the article, but the steel ammo makers first used a lacquer coating on the cases, and it did melt. Now they use a polymer coating, and it's much better. But after seeing an AR with a stuck steel case in the chamber, no matter what it's coated with, I personally will never shoot steel case ammo. I guess we will always disagree on that point! :chuckle:
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: FC on December 16, 2013, 08:34:24 PM: Check that article, they were getting rifles just cool enough to stop heat firing and chambering a lacquer coated steel case round and letting it sit till the rifle cooled. They were never able to reproduce the situation you describe. I have seen cases stuck before but they were brass that had ripped the head off via extractor when the butt was slammed on the ground. :twocents:

FYI some manufacturers still use lacquer coating.
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: Cap.Silver on December 16, 2013, 08:40:33 PM: Witnessed a guy not being able to close bolt in his Tikka after inserting Hornady 308 ammo (box was $45) and had to borrow some ammo from his friend .....I looked at it - the length was the same ,but the butt on brass was lot thicker and different profile .... as far as Tulammo - yes I think it could cause problems in tight guns......
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: FC on December 16, 2013, 08:44:01 PM: Quote from: Cap.Silver on December 16, 2013, 08:40:33 PM
Witnessed a guy not being able to close bolt in his Tikka after inserting Hornady 308 ammo

I had a factory federal 150gr (308) that I couldn't close the bolt on in my Savage 308.
Title: Re: no tulammo?
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 16, 2013, 09:11:10 PM: Good article, FC, but like it was said at the end of the article, most people (me included) will never shoot 10,000 rounds of ammo in their lives, so it's still a personal choice. I never buy ammo, and I have so much brass and reloaded ammo, I will never have to. Shooters who don't reload are a different story... so I guess we will never agree on the brass vs. steel issue. :chuckle: