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Title: Cam Frozen
Post by: stromdiddily on December 25, 2013, 06:55:13 PM
Hunting in the upper peninsula michigan...drew my bow, arrow froze to the arrow rest and unnocked itself, went to let down and the cam froze in place...string proceeded to blow off the cam and the idling wheel...all on the first day of hunting.
Any one have experience in keeping stuff from not freezing? As it is I'm hoping to find a bow shop to replace my strings and cable :(

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Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: Eli346 on December 25, 2013, 07:11:06 PM
Wow! Be careful when you take a leak.
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: Bmcox86 on December 25, 2013, 07:25:01 PM
 :yeah:

Hope you get it fixed, did you spook the deer?
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 25, 2013, 07:45:38 PM
1st time I ever heard that one  :dunno: :chuckle: I know it gets really cold in Michigan but not that cold  :yike:
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: huntnnw on December 25, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
never heard of that... Ive bowhunted in below 0 temps quite abit and never had an issue
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: sakoshooter on December 25, 2013, 10:22:47 PM
Obviously there was some moisture involved. I'm an oil nut. If it's metal and moves it gets lubed. Very thin oil goes a long way.
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: stromdiddily on December 26, 2013, 05:28:12 AM
Deer spooked on the let down...wasn't very graceful obviously haha.

Was sitting in the stand getting snowed on pretty steady. Thinking some of it melted on the cam then refroze some how :dunno: Taking it in today to see if I can get it fixed.

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Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: stromdiddily on December 26, 2013, 05:28:55 AM
Sako what oil do you use? Is it something I could put directly on the cam?

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Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: Elkrunner on December 26, 2013, 08:56:40 AM
Damn, how cold was it there?
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 26, 2013, 09:09:24 AM
Sako what oil do you use? Is it something I could put directly on the cam?

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Be careful using oil. Some bows are manufactured to not use any and using oil will void the warrantee. My Hoyt uses no oil. What kind of bow is this?
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: Jellymon on December 26, 2013, 09:33:46 AM
How do you know the cam froze in place? What bow is it?  This sounds like a derail to me.

I've heard lots of reasons for strings coming off. Cam froze, string track too shallow, debris in cam, strings breaking. 95% of the time you hear these stories it happens on let down, and it's because of a user induced derail. The main cause of this is torquing the bow while letting the bow down too quickly, causing the string to slide out of its track, derailing the bow. Now while it is possible for the cam to freeze, I don't think it happened, because drawing back would free any ice buildup and free the cam for release. Plus, I'm pretty sure that a single cam that freezes at full draw will keep the limbs compressed. The cable would hold the bow together and you would be able to take the string off by hand.
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 26, 2013, 10:41:16 AM
When its very cold like that I will leave my bow in a cold place to acclimate to the temps. Outside. With a cold bow the snow won't freeze on it.
Something doesn't seem right with the story... the cam rolled fine to draw back but then quickly froze while at full draw? Seems like a torque induced derail.
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: _TONY_ on December 26, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
How do you know the cam froze in place? What bow is it?  This sounds like a derail to me.

I've heard lots of reasons for strings coming off. Cam froze, string track too shallow, debris in cam, strings breaking. 95% of the time you hear these stories it happens on let down, and it's because of a user induced derail. The main cause of this is torquing the bow while letting the bow down too quickly, causing the string to slide out of its track, derailing the bow. Now while it is possible for the cam to freeze, I don't think it happened, because drawing back would free any ice buildup and free the cam for release. Plus, I'm pretty sure that a single cam that freezes at full draw will keep the limbs compressed. The cable would hold the bow together and you would be able to take the string off by hand.

^ This
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: stromdiddily on December 26, 2013, 05:50:42 PM
Could have been a torque issue. All I know is my arrow unnocked itself and my hand froze to the bow so stuff was definitely sticking. Have let down my bow 100 times but who knows.

Regardless the string and all cables blew off the cam. Found a guy with a bow press and figured out how to put it back together. Got it sighted back in...more or less...and have four more days to find a buck.

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Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 27, 2013, 05:30:42 AM
We still don't know what kind of bow this was, do we?
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: stromdiddily on December 27, 2013, 07:37:45 AM
Oh sorry...Mathews Creed

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Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: luckyman on December 27, 2013, 08:00:56 AM
I can see that happening if the bottom of the cam had a ice drop frozen to it.
If it rolled over and was no longer in the groove the chance of re entering the groove on let down would be a long shot.  :bdid:
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: sakoshooter on December 27, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
How do you know the cam froze in place? What bow is it?  This sounds like a derail to me.

I've heard lots of reasons for strings coming off. Cam froze, string track too shallow, debris in cam, strings breaking. 95% of the time you hear these stories it happens on let down, and it's because of a user induced derail. The main cause of this is torquing the bow while letting the bow down too quickly, causing the string to slide out of its track, derailing the bow. Now while it is possible for the cam to freeze, I don't think it happened, because drawing back would free any ice buildup and free the cam for release. Plus, I'm pretty sure that a single cam that freezes at full draw will keep the limbs compressed. The cable would hold the bow together and you would be able to take the string off by hand.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: Weehunt66 on December 28, 2013, 07:50:09 PM
I had this happen a couple of years ago during late elk. Ice had formed on the cam groove. String rolled off the cam and around the axle. Used a bow press and was good to go no sting damage.
Title: Re: Cam Frozen
Post by: sakoshooter on December 31, 2013, 10:24:13 AM
Sako what oil do you use? Is it something I could put directly on the cam?

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Any light oil like 3 in 1 or similar. I even use a Q Tip to get into all the tight spots. I really do not like rust or corrosion.
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