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Title: Eurasian collard doves
Post by: duckmen1 on December 27, 2013, 08:09:25 PM: Anyone ever get any or target them in washington. Gonna keep my eye open for them. Never noticed the non native bird before but will look more closely for them now. If so what parts of the state are they at? I'm western wa so not sure if they are east or west or both.
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Post by: wadu1 on December 27, 2013, 08:22:31 PM: Got a bunch of them in Sequim, I see them all the time while at the mother-in-laws.
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Post by: Bmcox86 on December 27, 2013, 08:23:14 PM: I've seen tons on the yakama rez
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 27, 2013, 08:26:46 PM: Got lots of them here in Wenatchee. The ones around here know enough to stay away from my property. :chuckle: :hunt2:
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Post by: TONTO on December 27, 2013, 08:47:53 PM: They're everywhere. Native to Turkey they're pretty much world wide now, migrating across Europe to Britain in the '50's. Somebody released some in the Bahamas in the '80's. Saw my first one around here about five years ago, they are pretty common anymore. I read somewhere that they are even in Alaska now. Don't see them much out of town, but where there are bird feeders there are doves.
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Post by: Widgeondeke on December 27, 2013, 08:51:43 PM: See them at the Evergreen State Fairgrounds in Monroe :bash:
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Post by: rasbo on December 27, 2013, 08:53:43 PM: royal city area loaded with them
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Post by: dmv9 on December 29, 2013, 07:33:50 PM: Saw a pair near duval. Didn't know what they were until I saw an article about them in sportsmans mag.
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Post by: lokidog on December 29, 2013, 07:43:55 PM: We have an island neighbor that has seen them, I have not yet. Maybe I should get some seed in my feeder. :)
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Post by: wadu1 on December 29, 2013, 07:48:47 PM: Saw two flocks of them in Sequim on Saturday all between the duck blinds and the farmers house. Could not go after them and me with 3" #2s anyway.
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Post by: madcow41 on December 30, 2013, 12:02:19 PM: I actually found that pigeon hunting is very fun
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Post by: KFhunter on December 30, 2013, 11:27:03 PM: Quote from: madcow41 on December 30, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
I actually found that pigeon hunting is very fun

This is a different bird.

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They are clear over here too on the far east WA side.
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Post by: fethrduster on December 31, 2013, 07:03:01 PM: Would love to find some of these in the south sound area to go after, since they can be hunted year around apparently. Should be pretty tasty.
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Post by: Maverick on January 01, 2014, 09:44:51 AM: Personally I like them better then the normal dove. Taste the same and more meat on them! Shoot them all the time at my house. They keep getting themselves trapped into my dads bird pens.
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 01, 2014, 09:47:54 AM: They must be all over the state :dunno: see a lot of them over here on the wetside ....more meat on them :tup:
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 01, 2014, 09:57:16 AM: It amazes me that a license is required for taking invasive species like these. What's the sense in that?
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Post by: JMTaylor on January 01, 2014, 10:16:20 AM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on January 01, 2014, 09:57:16 AM
It amazes me that a license is required for taking invasive species like these. What's the sense in that?

They are a migrating bird. That is the reason behind the seasons and licensing.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 01, 2014, 10:17:33 AM: Quote from: JMTaylor on January 01, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: pianoman9701 on January 01, 2014, 09:57:16 AM
It amazes me that a license is required for taking invasive species like these. What's the sense in that?

They are a migrating bird. That is the reason behind the seasons and licensing.

There is no season for Eurasian dove - open year round.
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Post by: C-Money on January 01, 2014, 10:21:24 AM: I have a bunch of the Eurasian doves that roost in my walnut tree. They are a lot bigger than a Mourning dove.
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 01, 2014, 10:38:58 AM: Quote from: C-Money on January 01, 2014, 10:21:24 AM
I have a bunch of the Eurasian doves that roost in my walnut tree. They are a lot bigger than a Mourning dove.

I shot a Eurasian Dove, and it landed in my neighbor's back yard. He felt its breast and said: "Oooo! I'll eat him! :drool: " :chuckle: I have great neighbors. :tup:
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Post by: madcow41 on January 01, 2014, 12:05:10 PM: Quote from: KFhunter on December 30, 2013, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: madcow41 on December 30, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
I actually found that pigeon hunting is very fun

This is a different bird.

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They are clear over here too on the far east WA side.

Even better I didnt know I could kill those too.
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Post by: nwwanderer on January 01, 2014, 12:12:00 PM: Lots in GMU 127, act more like pigeons than doves.
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Post by: madcow41 on January 10, 2014, 09:24:30 AM: Quote from: nwwanderer on January 01, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
Lots in GMU 127, act more like pigeons than doves.

Not for long
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Post by: T-Bone on January 12, 2014, 07:49:48 AM: Quote from: nwwanderer on January 01, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
Lots in GMU 127, act more like pigeons than doves.

Quite a few in the town of Rockford, but I have yet to find good, hunt able #'s out in the country.

Tom
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Post by: Imr1966 on March 01, 2014, 09:50:21 AM: Year round season,I presume It would be required to have a license though? I have them everywhere here where I live.Good pellet gun targets.
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 01, 2014, 06:18:58 PM: Not sure if a license is needed to shoot them on your own property, but a small game license isn't that expensive, and would cover you in any situation. :twocents:
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Post by: wildweeds on March 01, 2014, 09:06:41 PM: Invasive species,same as Rock Doves(Aka Barn Pigeon).No limit,no license,I better check,never used to have to have a license for them,I've shot them in the basin.
Well it appears that someone figured out how to make money from doing nothing,it's true you have to have a license for them now.

Predatory Birds (e.g. crow, Eurasian collared dove), Unclassified Wildlife (e.g. coyote): Small game license or big game
license, except not required under certain conditions (see WAC 232-12-005).
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Post by: Imr1966 on March 02, 2014, 04:06:29 AM: I figured as much,I won't worry about the license.I'll just go get one.I can sit in the yard and shoot them all day.Whats the best way to cook them?
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Post by: motg9_6 on March 02, 2014, 07:14:36 AM: Supposedly they will run off morning doves???? I have yet to see this and I see them eating with morning doves all the time. I like them the don't cause problems taste like a morning dove have more meat and there's no season. If I get the itch for dove I know right were I can find them.
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 02, 2014, 12:39:55 PM: Quote from: motg9_6 on March 02, 2014, 07:14:36 AM
Supposedly they will run off morning doves???? I have yet to see this and I see them eating with morning doves all the time. I like them the don't cause problems taste like a morning dove have more meat and there's no season. If I get the itch for dove I know right were I can find them.

I thought they were pretty mild-mannered until I saw one trying to run off a Steller's Jay. Takes a lot to intimidate a Jay.
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Post by: singleshot12 on March 02, 2014, 12:48:35 PM: Let em multiply and take over worse than starlings.. These birds are hardy opportunists. we need some descent year around wing shooting opportunity in this state :tup:
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Post by: motg9_6 on March 02, 2014, 04:23:22 PM: :yeah: and they taste good!!! Starlings are a little tough.
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Post by: TONTO on March 02, 2014, 04:50:09 PM: I remember reading somewhere that they don't compete with the morning doves or bandtails, but are instead filling the void left by the extinct passanger pigeon. If this is true someday they just might black out the sun :o
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Post by: yorketransport on March 02, 2014, 05:24:46 PM: I've seen a few out here in Yelm. I'm having a hard time getting a 100% ID on them though when I see them flying around. Don't want to shoot the wrong dove! :o
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Post by: TONTO on March 02, 2014, 06:13:06 PM: Quote from: yorketransport on March 02, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
I've seen a few out here in Yelm. I'm having a hard time getting a 100% ID on them though when I see them flying around. Don't want to shoot the wrong dove! :o

Mourning dove has the pointed tail. Collard dove tail is squared like a park pigeon. BandTail pigeon are bigger.
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Post by: REHJWA on March 02, 2014, 10:30:31 PM: Have a pair under my feeder every morning...
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 16, 2014, 07:00:56 PM: Heard one calling today, off in the distance. For some reason they figure that they are not wanted around here... :chuckle:
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Post by: WCTaxidermy on March 20, 2014, 06:37:40 PM: They are very good eating! They are a big threat to the Mourning Dove population. I have done a ton of reading on this. Fish and Game throughout the United States are very concerned because the mourning dove populations are declining because of the Eurasian Dove's increasing population. They are a very aggressive species and are taking over the same range areas that the Mourning Doves migrate to have enjoyed for decades. The more we can harvest and eat, the better our Mourning Dove population will be.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on March 20, 2014, 07:12:46 PM: Quote from: Heredoggydoggy on March 01, 2014, 06:18:58 PM
Not sure if a license is needed to shoot them on your own property, but a small game license isn't that expensive, and would cover you in any situation. :twocents:

There should be no license required on any invasive or pest species. No season, no limit, no license. You eradicate invasive species by giving people incentive to kill or remove them. Rats, Eurasian collard doves, coyotes, wol....never mind.
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Post by: huntindoc on March 20, 2014, 07:22:22 PM: Very tasty, dark meat. I have found them alot harder to kill than mourning doves. I knocked one down hard last year in a cloud of feathers. Sucker got up and flew away before I could pick him up. Many of the bird feeder crowd like the sound and look of them.

Look around any ag areas. I've got a buddy who shot close to a dozzen in June over a silo.
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Post by: Limhangerslayer on March 22, 2014, 05:24:49 PM: Quote from: Naches Sportsman on March 22, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
I had the shotgun out and two down the pipe ready to fire and I realized I was in city limits :bash: :bash:. I really need to find a pellet gun.
I wouldn't use a pellet gun either, that's illegal too :bdid:
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Post by: bigtex on March 22, 2014, 05:42:31 PM: Quote from: Naches Sportsman on March 22, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: Limhangerslayer on March 22, 2014, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Naches Sportsman on March 22, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
I had the shotgun out and two down the pipe ready to fire and I realized I was in city limits :bash: :bash:. I really need to find a pellet gun.
I wouldn't use a pellet gun either, that's illegal too :bdid:
Its legal in naches. As well as bow hunting. just cant shoot anything that goes boom here.
WAC 232-12-247
Transmission lines—Unlawful hunting.

It is unlawful to shoot at wild animals or wild birds while they are on a telephone or electrical transmission line, or the pole, crossarm or insulator thereof.