Post by: xXLojackXx on January 01, 2014, 08:42:00 PM
Post by: Wa hunter on January 01, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 01, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
Bowtech.
That explains a lot :tup:
Post by: KimWar1911 on January 02, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
Post by: elkoholic1 on January 02, 2014, 10:50:45 AM
Bowtech.
BOWTECH!!! :tup:
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 11:30:12 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 02, 2014, 11:46:47 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 11:58:55 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 02, 2014, 12:17:40 PM
:bdid:How did I know you were going to chime in. :chuckle: but D-Rock425 is right. Go shoot them and see what fits you the best. I like the Bowtech so far. Nice smooth draw and very quiet compared to my Hoyt and my Hoyt is pretty quiet.
Post by: whackmaster on January 02, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
I am tagging this because I have gone from the Hoyt/Reflex to a Bowtech.Got to love this BOWTECH gets my vote
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 12:29:17 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 02, 2014, 12:46:46 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 02, 2014, 12:59:23 PM
I shot Hoyt for 8 years and switched to Mathews after shooting the Z7 Magnum. It's one of the smoothest bows I've ever shot. I am curious if the Insanity will be as smooth with the extra 15 fps.My Hoyt is over 5 years old and set maxed out at 76 lbs of draw. I noticed on the Bowtech set maxed at 63lbs feels like a heavier draw. Maybe that is the difference in a cam and a half on the Hoyt to single cam on the Bowtech. I surely got more speed in the Bowtech then the Hoyt. I shot the Spyder 34 last year. That was a nice shooting bow. I got my Bowtech on a great trade deal with a fellow member. :tup: I couldn't pass it up.
Post by: demontang on January 02, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
Post by: xXx Archery on January 02, 2014, 09:45:01 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 03, 2014, 07:59:13 AM
the new 2014 bowtech is faster...the Insanity is gone for 2014
Are you referencing the new Destroyer?
Post by: demontang on January 03, 2014, 10:14:03 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 03, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 03, 2014, 11:21:45 AM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 03, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 03, 2014, 12:13:19 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 04, 2014, 03:40:17 PM
Post by: atc250r18 on January 04, 2014, 04:43:51 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 04, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
I just shot my insanity through a chrono (this thread prompted my actions), got 285fps with 390 gr GT Hunter pro XT's, with a 28.5 inch and 56lb draw (this is a slow by 5 compared to the IBO calculators). The reason I went with this bow was the speed at the lower draw weights, the SOlid, solid back wall and the dead on shot feel. After some shoulder surgery's I decided to hang up the 70+ lb draws, I shoot so much better and still faster than with my old hoyt (it was old, circa 2004). For comparison, I shot my Assassin (IBO 333) with the same arrow, at 64lb draw and got 290fps, I shoot the insanity quite a bit better.
It should be well into the 300's with a 78lb draw and a 390 grain arrow. Smoker bow!
Post by: countrystyle4life on January 04, 2014, 11:12:14 PM
Post by: salmonslayer on January 05, 2014, 12:33:33 AM
Also, fwiw, you might want to wait a few days...Bowtech has some sort of announcement coming on their new line.
Full disclosure: I own a Bowtech Destroyer 350 and an Elite Answer
Post by: Come Get Some on January 05, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
If you are shooting 3D tournaments learn to judge distance correctly and shoot a stable consistant setup. It will improve your harvest rate and make you a more accomplished hunter.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 05, 2014, 02:01:14 PM
Post by: Come Get Some on January 05, 2014, 02:14:23 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 05, 2014, 03:09:42 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 05, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
Kind of like the guys that drive an F350 on 37" tires to the grocery store. It's not necessary to carry a gallon of milk, so why do it? Because they want to and can.
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 05, 2014, 05:00:31 PM
I have a 29.5" draw and shoot 80 lbs because I want to. I'm in my late 20's, strong, in shape and can pull and hold 80lbs like most people can 60-70lbs. So why not? The extra poundage can't hurt and actually can only help.Actually according to me wife those guys the drive those big trucks are compensating for other things :chuckle: :chuckle:
Kind of like the guys that drive an F350 on 37" tires to the grocery store. It's not necessary to carry a gallon of milk, so why do it? Because they want to and can.
Post by: Come Get Some on January 05, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
I am saying if you want to shoot a heavier arrow but don't have the draw length to make up the speed; shooting heavier poundage is an option.
Agreed, But Depending on that draw length there is a place where a heavier poundage will not give you the added benefit. Speed also accounts for kenetic energy. If your draw length is 26-27" the Stifffer arrow is what is needed for proper spine at 80 LBS. There is a cross over point where the heavy arrow depending on draw length will be slower . There is not much you can do for too short of a draw length. IBO speeds are calculated at 30" and 70LBS. AMO speeds are 6 Grains per pound. Bow manufacturers do not like to warranty bows shot with below IBO rated arrow weights. It is also hard to get a properly spined arrow if you do not go heavy enough. Do not get me wrong. I shoot a very heavy arrow and believe it is a much more efficient way to kill any animal. There is no replacement for Kenetic energy. I am 55, 6'-2" and can pull an 80-90 lb bow easily. I have shot a TON of competition on the national level. Heavy poundage is very seldom an added benefit whether hunting or competing. You will hold a lighter poundage steadier no matter how young and strong you are. Draw length is definitely a deficit that is hard to overcome. It usually comes down to choice and you see alot of younger archers doing it just because they can,.
Kind of like the joke about the Old bull and the young bull standing on the hill looking down at all of the heifers.
Post by: whackmaster on January 05, 2014, 06:59:13 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on January 05, 2014, 07:03:50 PM
do you want your broadhead to stay in the boiler room or pass threw over penetration is that a good thing
Two holes are better than one :tup:
Post by: demontang on January 05, 2014, 08:17:39 PM
Post by: coachcw on January 05, 2014, 08:34:19 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 05, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
the advantage to more poundage would be a heavier arrow , some guys like my self like to hold poundage . the reason I've gone to 70 lbs bows is because I have went to a 420 grain set up .
Exactly. I love the Full Metal Jackets, although they're heavy they hit like a semi truck. With 80lb draw theyll be moving over 310fps
Post by: Come Get Some on January 06, 2014, 05:28:39 AM
Post by: maxwell on January 06, 2014, 10:47:45 AM
KM
Post by: Greg Mullins on February 08, 2014, 08:42:28 PM
Post by: 3dvapor on February 09, 2014, 10:08:54 AM