Post by: vandeman17 on January 02, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 02, 2014, 11:41:41 AM
:yike: forgot your release
TWICE! The one in Oregon was the worst because I was way up the mountain and had a chance at a bull. Talk about a terrible feeling when you flick your wrist to grab your release and get nothing... :bash: Then I had to go back and try to retrace my steps to find the tree that I stopped under to strip my rain gear off.
Post by: Broken Arrow on January 02, 2014, 11:42:27 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 02, 2014, 11:44:23 AM
I have never looked into them. I am funny like that, even when camping with the family....once i get into the woods....I am constantly feeling for my release. I also carry a backup in my pack so this NEVER happens.
Worst part about my Oregon fiasco was that I didn't have a backup, even back at camp. I did have one on my whitetail hunt but it was back in the truck. I don't really like the backup release anyway so not sure what I would have done.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 02, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 02, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 02, 2014, 11:51:45 AM
I shot a few but the only thing I liked better about them is being able to keep it on the loop. I don't even remember which ones I shot, my groups were no different.
Post by: buckfvr on January 02, 2014, 11:53:13 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 11:56:37 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 12:03:06 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 02, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
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That's the one my son uses. Mine looks like this:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meijer.com%2Fassets%2Fproduct_images%2Fstyles%2Fxlarge%2F1000947_026509153603_A_400.jpg&hash=66ac9c09f48d67d178e44a3f9b8eb6eec4fcb9f8)
I don't like the wrist strap style. The glove style gives my hand something to wrap around and makes my pull feel more secure, like I'va actually got a grip on something. Personal comfort is a huge part of archery and this makes me much more comfortable than the wrist straps. Only down side is, if you have stubby fingers, it can be kind of hard to grab anything with that hand. I have longer fingers so it's ok for me.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 02, 2014, 12:04:23 PM
Besides the forgetting the release aspect, do any of you guys that have tried it, like it?
I like it. What bothered me about it is all of the moving parts and screws - more to break or loosen up. Here's the one I was using. http://www.winnarchery.com/loop.html (http://www.winnarchery.com/loop.html)
I've since switched to a Boss Hogg Whipper Snapper and must admit, am having a helluva time getting used to it.
Post by: vandeman17 on January 02, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
Full hand release? Like the glove style?
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winnarchery.com%2FWAC10C1205OPT.jpg&hash=2da8c1f0a06df9770ff9632936605acb108e9897)
That's the one my son uses. Mine looks like this:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meijer.com%2Fassets%2Fproduct_images%2Fstyles%2Fxlarge%2F1000947_026509153603_A_400.jpg&hash=66ac9c09f48d67d178e44a3f9b8eb6eec4fcb9f8)
I don't like the wrist strap style. The glove style gives my hand something to wrap around and makes my pull feel more secure, like I'va actually got a grip on something. Personal comfort is a huge part of archery and this makes me much more comfortable than the wrist straps. Only down side is, if you have stubby fingers, it can be kind of hard to grab anything with that hand. I have longer fingers so it's ok for me.
I am talking about the T-shaped ones that almost look like brass knuckles. I am not sure what their technical name is.
D-Rock, I wanted to try one with my current bow but didn't specifically for the reason you mentioned about having a lot change. I figured that since I am planning to buy a new bow that it is a good time to see what feels better then set my bow accordingly.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2014, 02:22:07 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 02, 2014, 02:26:30 PM
I think you're referring to a thumb release. Many great shooters love them. I hate them. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: vandeman17 on January 02, 2014, 02:31:35 PM
I think you're referring to a thumb release. Many great shooters love them. I hate them. :twocents:
Yep. I will start calling them that. :tup:
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 02, 2014, 02:38:09 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 02, 2014, 02:45:47 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 02, 2014, 04:17:44 PM
Not all of them are thumb releases. :dunno:
Some are the back tension releases which don't have a button or trigger to release. The Whipper Snapper is a thumb release.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 02, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
You've got to explain that to me. I use the glove style of release but use back tension (trying to touch my shoulder blades together) when I shoot. Mostly when I need to hold a draw but it does offer a nice, natural, consistant backstop too. Is this shooting back tension or am I doing something else?
The back tension uses the position of your hand to automatically release the string when it reaches the right tension at the right angle as you're pulling back while staying on target. It's more of a surprise when it lets go because you're not pulling a trigger or pushing a button. It eliminates target anxiety.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2014, 05:54:48 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on January 02, 2014, 09:25:16 PM
Does anyone on here use the caliper type release that uses your whole hand instead of the trigger style with the wrist strap? I am planning on upgrading my bow this spring and have thought about trying out the other release so it would probably be best to try it when shooting new bows. The reason I am thinking about changing is that I have, on multiple occasions now, forgot to put my release on. The first time was on an elk hunt where I got caught in a rain storm and threw on the rain gear. When it stopped I stripped down and left my release under a dang tree. After 20 minutes of hiking and coming up on a bull at about 40 yards, I realized I didn't have my release... :yike: Then whitetail hunting, I hiked all the way into my blind, about a 30 minute hike up hill, only to realize that I didn't have my release. :bash: I was thinking that with the hand held release that I could either have it in my pocket or hooked to the d-loop so I am less likely to forget it. :tup:
LOL. If you forget to strap it back on your wrist, what makes you think you'd remember to put it in your pocket?
Had to pick on ya some.
Post by: kneckshot 1 on January 02, 2014, 09:44:14 PM
clip it to my d loop hit the button lost bought another still have but had to back tract acouple of times to find it
Post by: DoubleJ on January 02, 2014, 09:53:47 PM
You've got to explain that to me. I use the glove style of release but use back tension (trying to touch my shoulder blades together) when I shoot. Mostly when I need to hold a draw but it does offer a nice, natural, consistant backstop too. Is this shooting back tension or am I doing something else?
The back tension uses the position of your hand to automatically release the string when it reaches the right tension at the right angle as you're pulling back while staying on target. It's more of a surprise when it lets go because you're not pulling a trigger or pushing a button. It eliminates target anxiety.
I don't think I'd ever be able to use that
Post by: stuckalot on January 02, 2014, 10:00:57 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 03, 2014, 09:39:50 AM
Does anyone on here use the caliper type release that uses your whole hand instead of the trigger style with the wrist strap? I am planning on upgrading my bow this spring and have thought about trying out the other release so it would probably be best to try it when shooting new bows. The reason I am thinking about changing is that I have, on multiple occasions now, forgot to put my release on. The first time was on an elk hunt where I got caught in a rain storm and threw on the rain gear. When it stopped I stripped down and left my release under a dang tree. After 20 minutes of hiking and coming up on a bull at about 40 yards, I realized I didn't have my release... :yike: Then whitetail hunting, I hiked all the way into my blind, about a 30 minute hike up hill, only to realize that I didn't have my release. :bash: I was thinking that with the hand held release that I could either have it in my pocket or hooked to the d-loop so I am less likely to forget it. :tup:
LOL. If you forget to strap it back on your wrist, what makes you think you'd remember to put it in your pocket?
Had to pick on ya some.
You aren't the first and won't be the last. My dad and my buddy like to always razz me about it and ask me if I have my release. :o
Post by: xXLojackXx on January 03, 2014, 12:05:51 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 03, 2014, 12:08:14 PM
My first year bow hunting when I was 16, left the truck in the morning and set off into the woods. 30 mins later I was broadside to 4 cows and 2 spikes at 20-40 yards and realized I left my release behind. I sat there for 5 mins deciding wether or not to shoot fingers and decided against it. It happens. Now I put it on whenever I'm in my camo.
I did the same with a big doe in Sept. I have made it a priority starting in the spring to finger shoot my bow a bit to get the feel for it and know what it does just in case I'm in that situatioin again
Post by: Elkrunner on January 03, 2014, 12:25:48 PM
Post by: SuperMag on January 07, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on January 07, 2014, 10:41:38 AM
I switched to a Thumb release last year, the tru ball absolute 360, and a Tru ball back tension release. my reason for switching was to help some target panic issues I was dealing with. Back tension pretty much eliminated the problem. As far as it helping to not lose it while in the woods it does nothing. I've hunted with a wrist strap style releases for years and was always used to feeling it there. Now im using the thumb release and keep it in my pocket. IMO its easier to forget the thumb release vs a wrist strap style.
95% of the reason I am thinking of changing was for the target panic/not smooth trigger pull that I get some times. The forgetting it is just something I need to make a habit of putting it in my pocket or something.
Post by: Come Get Some on January 07, 2014, 07:15:29 PM
Jim
Post by: grousetracker on January 07, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 07, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
Post by: Come Get Some on January 08, 2014, 08:05:19 AM
Post by: et1702 on January 08, 2014, 08:21:29 AM
Hey Adam,
I shoot the Carter Strapless model. It's an awesome release! I've shot a ton of different styles, and I personally don't like the strap-on models. Have a look and if you like you can shoot mine to see if you like it.
I haven't forgot it yet...lol.
http://www.carterenterprises.com/releases/index-finger-trigger/strapless (http://www.carterenterprises.com/releases/index-finger-trigger/strapless)
ET
FYI, my buddy Paul makes a hand-held release that is very nice too. You can use it with or without strap. I'll show it to you sometime and you can try it out too.
Post by: Jellymon on January 08, 2014, 08:38:54 AM
I think thumb releases feel better and have a more natural anchor, but I still prefer a wrist release while hunting. I like having it in my hand at all times.
I only use my thumb release when shooting feild, safari, or spots with my Vantage Elite.
Post by: Elkrunner on January 08, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
Post by: et1702 on January 08, 2014, 10:00:14 AM
Paulie is making his own release? I ddin't know that. I knew he made his own tree stand, table for camp, that extension thingie on his boat motor..He has some skills.
Yeah, he's been making them for two or three years now. Scott shot his elk w/one of Paul's releases last year. I'll bring one to show you next time we are in the goose blind. Speaking of Geese, I thought you might be out there this morn.?
ET
Post by: Elkrunner on January 08, 2014, 10:39:16 AM
What material is he making these out of?
Post by: Come Get Some on January 08, 2014, 06:51:53 PM
From left to right
Just B Cuz Larger finger hole than the Just Cuz
Just Cuz-- For smaller hands, My wife hunts with this one
Insatiable-- No finger hole, swept back design. I hunt with this one
Target 3- Like the insatiable but a straight handle. Also comes in 4 finger.
They have a few new releases out. The TOO Simple is very crisp, Closes on the string like the Chocolat Addiction did With the cocking lever. I cannot keep these in stock.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 08, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
Post by: whacker1 on January 08, 2014, 08:40:42 PM
Post by: Elkrunner on January 09, 2014, 09:03:46 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 09, 2014, 10:09:14 AM
Is there anywhere in Spokane where someone could demo a Carter?Not that I am aware of. Maybe sva... if you go there. You are welcome to try mine out sometime if we can meet up. Or at some of the local 3d shoots people would let you try.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 09, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
I love my Spot Hogg Whipper Snapper, 4 finger open jaw. Best thumb release for the price in my opinion. Very, very close to being as crisp as a carter and has zero trigger travel. Very easy to use as well, you cock it just by pushing the trigger forward. Also comes in a closed jaw model. Quality is great as well. Adjustable barrel and trigger sensitivity.
I think thumb releases feel better and have a more natural anchor, but I still prefer a wrist release while hunting. I like having it in my hand at all times.
I only use my thumb release when shooting feild, safari, or spots with my Vantage Elite.
Why not the Whipper Snapper while hunting?
Post by: Redbeard on January 09, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
I have dropped too many things from my tree stand and don't want to drop my release
Post by: Jellymon on January 09, 2014, 12:23:16 PM
I love my Spot Hogg Whipper Snapper, 4 finger open jaw. Best thumb release for the price in my opinion. Very, very close to being as crisp as a carter and has zero trigger travel. Very easy to use as well, you cock it just by pushing the trigger forward. Also comes in a closed jaw model. Quality is great as well. Adjustable barrel and trigger sensitivity.
I think thumb releases feel better and have a more natural anchor, but I still prefer a wrist release while hunting. I like having it in my hand at all times.
I only use my thumb release when shooting feild, safari, or spots with my Vantage Elite.
Why not the Whipper Snapper while hunting?
I just like having my release instantly accessible. Personal preference. One less thing to worry about. I use a spot hogg wiseguy and it folds back and locks in place, so it stays out of the way pretty well. Great trigger as well. If I only hunted out of stands or blinds I would use the whipper snapper. But I'm constantly on the move hiking, mtn bike, using binos, wind checker. I would be constantly taking it in and out of my pocket and it just seems like a matter of time before I lost it, and they're not cheap. Accuracy is the same with both styles to me, thumb just is a touch more comfortable.
Post by: whacker1 on January 09, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
Is there anywhere in Spokane where someone could demo a Carter?Not that I am aware of. Maybe sva... if you go there. You are welcome to try mine out sometime if we can meet up. Or at some of the local 3d shoots people would let you try.
I may have to take you up on that this spring. Thank you for offering
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 10, 2014, 08:29:24 AM
no problem! Let me knowIs there anywhere in Spokane where someone could demo a Carter?Not that I am aware of. Maybe sva... if you go there. You are welcome to try mine out sometime if we can meet up. Or at some of the local 3d shoots people would let you try.
I may have to take you up on that this spring. Thank you for offering