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Title: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: lokidog on January 08, 2014, 09:11:33 PM: With the State's propensity to continue to remove harvesting opportunities for various food fishes, especially in the Sound, will people turn to less "conventional" fish to eat? I will usually filet a dogfish if it is over 28 inches as the meat is rather thin if they are much shorter. I have found that if they are bled and iced like a salmon, they are flakey and rather sweet tasting when breaded and deep fried. I don't catch many, but have thought about targeting them more to fill the empty space where rockfish use to reside in my freezer.

What are your thoughts? My next get-together food might be deep fried dogfish. :drool:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: seth30 on January 08, 2014, 09:14:15 PM: I would love to get that receipe from you. I like catching them but have yet to try them.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: ICEMAN on January 08, 2014, 09:15:47 PM: I voted "OK".

I brought a few home over the years, one was good, the other not so much. Probably did not bleed it out.... Probably a bit pissy... :puke:

I would try it again. When is the feast? :EAT:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: jrebel on January 08, 2014, 09:20:40 PM: I was watching the food channel (I think) and dog fish are a delicacy in other countries. I will research it and see if I can find out more. They are supposedly really tasty when prepared and cooked properly.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: duckmen1 on January 08, 2014, 09:23:56 PM: Kept a couple to try last year for the first time. Brought them in the boat and gave them a bonk on the head and filleted them right away taking the skin of too. Good fish and chips and nice and firm meat.
Kept the carcasses in a cooler for proof of catch.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: lokidog on January 08, 2014, 09:33:32 PM: Quote from: duckmen1 on January 08, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
Kept a couple to try last year for the first time. Brought them in the boat and gave them a bonk on the head and filleted them right away taking the skin of too. Good fish and chips and nice and firm meat.
Kept the carcasses in a cooler for proof of catch.

I'm not sure I would worry about that, the meat looks completely different (very white and not transluscent) from other fish. Of course the game wardens probably don't know that. :rolleyes: I think I read that most of the fish n chips in England is doggie.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: pd on January 08, 2014, 09:36:40 PM: Dogfish (shark) are a primitive fish, as you know. Amongst other things, some of their organs are not as well developed as are those of the higher level fishes. In particular, the kidneys and livers do not function as well; for this reason, sharks have a high concentration of what becomes ammonia upon death. The odd thing about sharks is the high concentration of ammonia: It is a great preservative. For those inland communities in Asia (not close to the sea) where fresh fish could not be transported, they learned to like shark meat, because it was the only ocean species they could obtain. You can find shark available even today in the interior regions of Japan and China (Korea, too, I understand).

Yes, the meat will soon begin to smell strongly of ammonia. This is why they are quickly bled out, kept cool, eaten quickly. Except for the shark meat served in the interior regions of Japan, the only shark meat that I know of is what is ground/processed/steamed into fish sticks. It is really quite nice; most people don't know it is from shark, however.

Can't help you with the preparation, sorry. I am an eater, not a preparer. Best of luck. But I would happily join your party. Call Pianoman--he is always a great source of information on unusual foods.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: pd on January 08, 2014, 09:39:06 PM: If it were up to me, I would always rather eat the rockfish over shark. Much better. ;)
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: wildweeds on January 08, 2014, 09:40:45 PM: If your not catching many,get a stainless leader set up and try using bait instead of hardware,you'll run the risk of capsizing the boat.I tried bait fishing on the king opener,busted out the hardware in one pass and 6 leaders........... I'll pass on eating them myself,we used to cut them and let em go,but the blood gets all over everything and they stink the boat up,now we just cut the leader
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: Dansk on January 08, 2014, 09:44:21 PM: Just saw an episode of 'bizarre foods with andrew zimmerman'... they were catching leopard sharks on sanfransisco bay. Gutted, then overboard on a stringer in the salt. After a few, they cut it up, pan seared in olive oil on the boat. Said it was awesome. Also caught a skate and ate that too on the boat.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: lokidog on January 08, 2014, 09:48:59 PM: Quote from: pd on January 08, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
If it were up to me, I would always rather eat the rockfish over shark. Much better. ;)

No duh. ;) Thank the state for that one. But the question isn't which one you prefer. :)

I see a few, never wills, why not? You can always spit it out. I'll try anything, once, at least anything that's not rotten.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: wildweeds on January 08, 2014, 10:05:57 PM: My dads freind had a commercial boat,his target,dogfish for export to England,he was a clean freak and no amount of scrubbing/soap could get the stench off of it,the stink was from the piss that comes through the skin,You could smell that boat before it rounded the corner to come up to the dock.That's one of my reasons and the other is the mercury content in them.

Quote from: lokidog on January 08, 2014, 09:48:59 PM
Quote from: pd on January 08, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
If it were up to me, I would always rather eat the rockfish over shark. Much better. ;)

No duh. ;) Thank the state for that one. But the question isn't which one you prefer. :)

I see a few, never wills, why not? You can always spit it out. I'll try anything, once, at least anything that's not rotten.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: lokidog on January 08, 2014, 10:28:20 PM: Quote from: seth30 on January 08, 2014, 09:14:15 PM
I would love to get that receipe from you. I like catching them but have yet to try them.

Seth, it is pretty easy and the way I fry all of my fish. Tonight I also fried some very old halibut (still yummy after trimming a bit of burn), some oysters from our beach, and some goose tenders, all prepped the same way.

Dip in egg and then roll in Kellogs Corn Flake Crumbs, the already smashed ones are best as the size is more uniform. Let them sit on a plate, not touching each other, for at least ten minutes. This allows the crumbs to kind of dry onto the fish and they stick better, also it lets you put a bunch in at once for even cooking. Deep fry if possible or fry and flip at 320 to 350. I try to keep my oil at about 325 as it doesn't seem to burn as much and I use my oil over and over. Sometimes I will add some Zatarans Southern Fish Fry to add a little zing to the flavor.

WildW, I've never really noticed much of a smell, but I hang them on a stringer and bleed off the side of the boat and not into it. ;) I'm excited about the next get-together, now I just have to go fishing. :tup:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: Bigluke1981 on January 08, 2014, 10:32:42 PM: I have never tried dogfish but have eaten mako shark and it was always really good. I will have to try this recipe, it sounds really good!!! :tup:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: Duffer on January 08, 2014, 11:09:36 PM: I have not had it in years, but I seem to remember that we soaked the filets (skinned definitely) in milk in the fridge overnight. Then breaded & fried & it was very good for a white-meat fish.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: Special T on January 09, 2014, 07:40:40 AM: Many years ago i used to jig pieces of crab bait on a steel braided halibut leader while keeping an eye on my crab pots from a distance (had a few stolen off Camano Island) It was a lot of fun on a steal head rod. Never ate any tho.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: Skillet on January 09, 2014, 08:27:37 AM: We got in to a huge school of them on an aggressive bite on Possession early last summer, and since the fishing was tough for the kings we just decided to have fun with them. Switched over to jiggin gear and even caught them on bare pink maribou jigs 20' below the boat. Will keep some of the bigger ones to try out in the future if we do that again. :tup:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: deltaops on January 09, 2014, 08:38:33 AM: Went out last summer and caught quit a few doggies. First thing I did was cut the head off, gutted them and let them bleed out in the salt water. Then threw them in the cooler. When we got home I rinsed them one more time, fileted them and off to the freezer. If done properly they are good eats for sure.

Some people already commented, they use them in fish and chips in England and even in some places in the states at times. It is possible you have ate it and never realized it.

I usually go after them when we are crabbing. What I would like to do is find a good spot for some perch somewhere around Tacoma Narrows area. :dunno:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: sebek556 on January 09, 2014, 08:44:15 AM: This used to be my every other weekend activity throw out the crab pot and catch dogfish for fun while waiting. The first one we ate, bad bad bad! But we didn't bleed it out. One weekend a old timer asked us why we not keeping any, then told us the trick to preparing them. Cut off head, and gut soon as you decide to keep it. Let in the salt water till your ready to go. Fillet and soak in a vinegar brine, it's supposed to neutralize the urine in the meat. Then cook as you wish. After learning this, lots of dogfish have been on my plate.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: jackmaster on January 09, 2014, 09:10:17 AM: Loki, if you ever want a dog fish super hot spot let me know, you would have to drive to sequim and have a boat, but while your crab pots are soaking you can catch huge doggies as fast as you can get your bait in the water, I rig my wife up with braided cable and a chunk of squid and she has a blast
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: kisfish on January 09, 2014, 09:14:09 AM: When I was in North Carolina they used to have dogfish tournaments. There were allot of guys that bled, filleted the fish. They claim its great. The next one I catch I will be cooking it up.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: PolarBear on January 09, 2014, 09:21:54 AM: We use to have a dogfish derby on the 4th of July every year with the cousin's. We pushed an oyster scow to Steamboat Island and usually caught several dozen. There was a guy from the Philipines and one from Cambodia that would take them off of our hands and loved to eat them. They both soaked them in either salt water or buttermilk before cooking them up. We tried them deep fried but wasn't a fan of it. I wish more folks would eat them and get the numbers down.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: wildweeds on January 09, 2014, 10:23:49 AM: It's been 30 years since I seen my old mans buddy to it,so I may be missing something but WITH a gloved hand grab by tail,and stand on the fins with each foot and pull up.If I remember right the fins and guts stay on the deck for a speed clean similar to birds.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: DoubleJ on January 09, 2014, 11:45:33 AM: Going to target them this next summer for sure. The kids love catching them and we're going to try to eat a few
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on January 09, 2014, 11:53:56 AM: NPR just did a story about this the other day
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/01/02/255547215/why-the-cod-on-cape-cod-now-comes-from-iceland (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/01/02/255547215/why-the-cod-on-cape-cod-now-comes-from-iceland)

"This undersection here is called the belly flap — those go to Germany, and they get smoked. They take the skin off of this, and you have the dogfish backs — they're big in Europe, and they'll chop it up into cutlets with the meat in it, that they'll fry it that way," he says.
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: SkookumHntr on January 09, 2014, 11:57:31 AM: :puke:
Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: LndShrk on January 09, 2014, 01:02:43 PM: Gross..

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Title: Re: Just fried up some dogfish from last summer, yummy! Have you?
Post by: lokidog on January 09, 2014, 10:26:52 PM: Quote from: jackmaster on January 09, 2014, 09:10:17 AM
Loki, if you ever want a dog fish super hot spot let me know, you would have to drive to sequim and have a boat, but while your crab pots are soaking you can catch huge doggies as fast as you can get your bait in the water, I rig my wife up with braided cable and a chunk of squid and she has a blast

Thanks for the invite, but if I'm driving that far with the boat, I'll head to the coast and put some rockfish and lings in the freezer. They are still better than dogfish, even though the doggies are decent. :chuckle: