Post by: bigtex on January 09, 2014, 01:13:42 PM
There was a post on here last year about a State Park Ranger citing people at Oak Creek for no pass, even though the Ranger wasn't on State Park lands.. Such agreements allow this to happen.
Post by: Band on January 09, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
Maybe I'll make up a rule that government employees who park on my property without a Band Pass (modestly priced at $200) will be cited and fined $1,000. Why not? :dunno:
Post by: Special T on January 09, 2014, 01:25:26 PM
Post by: bigtex on January 09, 2014, 01:31:12 PM
Does the WDFW acess pass allow you to go there?
Yes.
It is a WDFW Wildlife Area. State Parks will simply be doing the pass enforcement.
Post by: ICEMAN on January 09, 2014, 07:42:29 PM
Post by: David Y on January 09, 2014, 07:45:58 PM
The Idiot Pass didn't exist last time I visited the Oak Creek feeding station. I guess I've made my last trip there. I will not buy the Idiot Pass.
Maybe I'll make up a rule that government employees who park on my property without a Band Pass (modestly priced at $200) will be cited and fined $1,000. Why not? :dunno:
I think we got a free one with our hunting licenses, or is this a different pass? :dunno:
Post by: Band on January 09, 2014, 07:50:18 PM
I'm talking about the Discover Pass, which you have to pay for. The problem is that there are so many "cash grab" passes that a person needs to buy every pass he can find, display them all just in case one or more of them is required somewhere out in the woods on public land, and hope he doesn't get cited.The Idiot Pass didn't exist last time I visited the Oak Creek feeding station. I guess I've made my last trip there. I will not buy the Idiot Pass.
Maybe I'll make up a rule that government employees who park on my property without a Band Pass (modestly priced at $200) will be cited and fined $1,000. Why not? :dunno:
I think we got a free one with our hunting licenses, or is this a different pass? :dunno:
Post by: McCRIZZLEY on January 09, 2014, 07:51:50 PM
Post by: bigtex on January 09, 2014, 07:54:21 PM
You get a WDFW pass with your hunting licenses, but it does not cover everything. Just hunting/fishing spots. Discover pass is another 30 bones a year and covers most recreation spots. I think state parks and forests. But not national parks or forests.
If you are hunting on DNR lands you still need the Discover Pass. The WDFW pass is only applicable on WDFW lands.
Post by: McCRIZZLEY on January 09, 2014, 07:59:49 PM
I forgot about that!
Post by: rosscrazyelk on January 10, 2014, 06:28:00 AM
As far as the pass goes they should make two passes
One state one federal instead of the multitude there is now.
Post by: PlateauNDN on January 10, 2014, 07:51:40 AM
Will tribal members going there be required to have the pass? :peep:
Not for Yakamas, Ceded Area.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on January 26, 2014, 09:04:50 AM
Post by: fireweed on January 28, 2014, 07:47:29 AM
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on January 30, 2014, 05:52:08 AM
You can hunt on DNR lands without a discover pass if you don't drive on DNR land. Is that correct?? So you could park on the highway and walk into the feeding area without a pass...correct?
Post by: ChadH on January 30, 2014, 08:11:40 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/wildlife_areas/oak_creek/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/wildlife_areas/oak_creek/)
But then on the Local Chamber Of Commerce website it says:
"Discover Pass Required": http://www.nachesvalleychamber.com/info/elkfeeding.html (http://www.nachesvalleychamber.com/info/elkfeeding.html)
I went with "The Acces Pass is fine"... since there weren't any elk to see. The sheep still show up about 10 am every morning, though, to see if any one is going to bother to feed them today... :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2014, 08:30:35 AM
So if you're a hunter it doesn't cost you any extra to go see the elk at the feeding station. But if you're not a hunter you need to buy the Discover pass. Seems fair to me.
And yes, if you don't have a pass you could park somewhere other than on WDFW land, and walk in to see the elk.
Post by: ChadH on January 30, 2014, 08:57:56 AM
Yes, either pass will work. That's why the title of this thread says : WDFW/Discover pass.
So if you're a hunter it doesn't cost you any extra to go see the elk at the feeding station. But if you're not a hunter you need to buy the Discover pass. Seems fair to me.
And yes, if you don't have a pass you could park somewhere other than on WDFW land, and walk in to see the elk.
Thats what I thought Bobcat... it seemed like everyone was getting all worked up about the DP being required. I admit I am "new" to this state (3 years) and still confused half the time so thought I'd ask.
Post by: bigtex on January 30, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
Bigtex wrote: If you are hunting on DNR lands you still need the Discover Pass. The WDFW pass is only applicable on WDFW lands.As long as you are not parked on DNR land you wont need the Discover Pass
You can hunt on DNR lands without a discover pass if you don't drive on DNR land. Is that correct?? So you could park on the highway and walk into the feeding area without a pass...correct?
Post by: ICEMAN on January 30, 2014, 06:55:50 PM
Bigtex wrote: If you are hunting on DNR lands you still need the Discover Pass. The WDFW pass is only applicable on WDFW lands.As long as you are not parked on DNR land you wont need the Discover Pass
You can hunt on DNR lands without a discover pass if you don't drive on DNR land. Is that correct?? So you could park on the highway and walk into the feeding area without a pass...correct?
Bigtex, what would the state patrol think of folks parking their cars on the highway edge at oakcreek, attempting to avoid purchasing a pass/avoiding a fine...?
Post by: bigtex on January 30, 2014, 07:37:06 PM
WSP doesn't care as long as you are off of the road and not creating a hazard.:yeah:
Post by: ICEMAN on January 30, 2014, 07:46:55 PM
WSP doesn't care as long as you are off of the road and not creating a hazard.:yeah:
Well, looks like we need to pass legislation to force folks to park and pay, similar to the "no parking lot=no fishing" legislation attempt this session... :peep:
Post by: bigtex on January 30, 2014, 07:51:01 PM
Happens all the time. Come summer time go to WDFW Fishing Access sites and you'll see people parking just outside the fence/gate because they don't have a pass.Well, looks like we need to pass legislation to force folks to park and pay, similar to the "no parking lot=no fishing" legislation attempt this session... :peep:WSP doesn't care as long as you are off of the road and not creating a hazard.:yeah:
Post by: ICEMAN on January 30, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
This perpetual push for differing legislation all designed to gather funds from all citizens is getting to me. Not sure what the perfect answer is, but we have ignored protecting those who have paid in the past for these improvements and sites. IMHO, jetskis and non-hunter visitors to sites like these should take a backseat to those who have supported these access points and sites for years. (?)
Post by: MarkyMark on January 30, 2014, 08:18:17 PM