Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
Pretty nice pistol for $600.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 13, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 04:14:56 PM
Post by: HawkCreek on January 13, 2014, 04:15:48 PM
When does the season open up to hunt ATV's? (Sorry I couldn't resist)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
Good choice in going with the 10mm. Those ATV'S can be hard to bring down! :chuckle:
Especially those big bore ones........ :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
Nice looking sidearm! I have a Glock 20 and I'm gathering components to reload, can't find 10mm around here for crap.
When does the season open up to hunt ATV's? (Sorry I couldn't resist)
I know I'll get the business about ATV hunting.......
www.gunbot.com (http://www.gunbot.com) (?) and www.gunbroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com) has a lot of loaded 10mm ammo for sale. Just know what 10mm ammo is going for so you won't pay too much. I carry a 29SF in 10mm. Love that caliber.
Post by: KFhunter on January 13, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx (http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 04:49:59 PM
I'm using underwood ammo right now. No complaints, all have fed properly and seem to group well.
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx (http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx)
You shooting it through a Glock ? I used some crappy wad cutters and it wouldn't feed maybe 6 times. I know it's the ammo. The gun got rave reviews, that's why I bought it. I want it for bear/wolf hunting if I'm lucky enough to have one near the road.
Post by: KFhunter on January 13, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
I would advise against shooting non-jacketed bullets too. Wadcutters are low power so they'll stovepipe on ya, and all that lead is going to foul things up.
change that recoil spring to a 20# spring and run the big stuff through it. You'll need a special tool to get it done, paper clip tool.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
I'm using a G20 with a few goodies.
I would advise against shooting non-jacketed bullets too.
change that recoil spring to a 20# spring and run the big stuff through it. You'll need a special tool to get it done, paper clip tool.
I don't think I'll need a bigger spring. I just have to buy some good ammo. I had the wad cutters for my 29sf.
I do have that tool for removing the barrel. Can you believe that ???
Post by: KFhunter on January 13, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
spring
I've had good luck with the underwood, it's way cheaper than buffalo bore with same performance.
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmAuto220GrainHardCastFlatNoseBoxof50.aspx (http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmAuto220GrainHardCastFlatNoseBoxof50.aspx)
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=219 (https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=219)
underwood: $39.95 per 50 round box
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Technical Information
Caliber: 10mm Auto
Bullet Weight: 220 Grains
Bullet Style: Hardcast Flat Nose
Case Type: Brass
Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 703 ft. lbs.
Buffalo bore: $31.55 per 20 round box
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Heavy 10mm Ammo - 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.) - 20 Round Box
Post by: KFhunter on January 13, 2014, 05:18:37 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 05:24:42 PM
If you plan to hunt game though I'd get the hollow point 200 grain, XTP if you can find it.
I think it's www.gunbot.com (http://www.gunbot.com) that has all the ammo listed where you can buy any and all ammo. The shipping is darn near $20 form some and most of the sellers.
I use www.grafs.com (http://www.grafs.com) They use FEDEX and charge $ 6.95 for home delivery.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 13, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 13, 2014, 06:43:13 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
It's a great handgun, I don't own one but I've shot them. I know it doesn't effect anything but it does make me crazy!!! Why did they have to put the factory markings all the way down the darn slide.? :DOH:
.............at least shudda put it on both sides to look cool. geeze !
Post by: sled on January 13, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
It's a great handgun, I don't own one but I've shot them. I know it doesn't effect anything but it does make me crazy!!! Why did they have to put the factory markings all the way down the darn slide.? :DOH:I Agree. Nice Gun, But The Name Is A Little Much For Me. IM A Plain Kind Of Guy. How Does It Shoot?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 06:54:02 PM
I was going to give you a bad time about shooting ATV's but the other guys beat me to it! :chuckle: Nice gun, Camp! Everyone I know that has one loves it. The reason it didn't get to be popular, is that the FBI was going to adopt it, but in testing they found that their female agents couldn't control the recoil, so they went to the 40 S&W instead. Just the same bullet diameter in a shorter case.... :chuckle:
I carry a Glock 29 sf, so this one shoots like a 357. Not bad at all. I have hands that look like hams anyhow, maybe that helps.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 13, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
It's a great handgun, I don't own one but I've shot them. I know it doesn't effect anything but it does make me crazy!!! Why did they have to put the factory markings all the way down the darn slide.? :DOH:
.............at least shudda put it on both sides to look cool. geeze !
There's a Lady that has a laser engraving business here in Wenatchee who will engrave anything you want on that slide. (Maybe A picture of your ATV? :chuckle: ) I've had her do AR Lowers, Uppers, And Magazines for me. Very reasonable price, too! Lots less than other outfits that advertise laser engraving on gun parts charge. :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 07:12:29 PM
It's a great handgun, I don't own one but I've shot them. I know it doesn't effect anything but it does make me crazy!!! Why did they have to put the factory markings all the way down the darn slide.? :DOH:
.............at least shudda put it on both sides to look cool. geeze !
There's a Lady that has a laser engraving business here in Wenatchee who will engrave anything you want on that slide. (Maybe A picture of your ATV? :chuckle: ) I've had her do AR Lowers, Uppers, And Magazines for me. Very reasonable price, too! Lots less than other outfits that advertise laser engraving on gun parts charge. :tup:
..........an ATV with a circle and a slash. Kinda like no-smoking allowed. The only thing is, the anti ATVers would buy my gun for self gratification........... :chuckle:
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 13, 2014, 08:03:00 PM
It's a great handgun, I don't own one but I've shot them. I know it doesn't effect anything but it does make me crazy!!! Why did they have to put the factory markings all the way down the darn slide.? :DOH:
.............at least shudda put it on both sides to look cool. geeze !
That Starboard side looks good though. :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 13, 2014, 09:43:50 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 13, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
just use a black sharpie marker :chuckle:
I think the yellow high lighter marker would be really cute instead...... :chuckle:
Post by: high country on January 15, 2014, 10:24:50 AM
Post by: stryker on January 15, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
I really like my G29.
Prvi Partizan, Federal Hydrashok, and Underwood. Eats it all with no problems.
I really like the wide performance range in ammo thats available for the 10mm. Subsonic 350ft lb all the way up to 2400 fps, 1050 ft lbs :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 15, 2014, 03:10:13 PM
I just ordered 150 rounds of PRVI PARTISAN 180 grn JHP from Grafs.com for $68 delivered to my door.
Post by: high country on January 15, 2014, 04:01:31 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 15, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
How accurate is your Rock Island? I may need to get one to replace the Kimber 45. I have piles of 10mm brass and a few thousand 200+ grain bullets sitting here waiting to get used.
Andrew
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 15, 2014, 08:51:06 PM
I miss my 10mm 1911. The Dan Wesson CCBT 10mm was a sweet gun, but I sold it in a moment of stupidity. I tried both Glocks and never learned to love them.
How accurate is your Rock Island? I may need to get one to replace the Kimber 45. I have piles of 10mm brass and a few thousand 200+ grain bullets sitting here waiting to get used.
Andrew
I've only shot crappy wad cutters in the 10. I don't have extra GOOD ammo just to plink. Plus, I don't have any reloading dies for a 10mm since I won't be shooting it a lot. It's my ATV, wolf, bear survival tool. It did shoot nice and solid though. My gunsmith said the RIA was as good as Kimber...
Post by: NW-GSP on January 15, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 15, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 15, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
.40 works for reloading 10mm
That's dangerous and I wouldn't do it. I have plenty of 40 cal ammo.
Post by: Whitelightning on January 15, 2014, 09:08:27 PM
.40 works for reloading 10mm
That's dangerous and I wouldn't do it. I have plenty of 40 cal ammo.
I reload both 40 and 10mm. The dies for 40 and 10mm are one in the same! the diameter is identical however the case size and primers are different. Don't shoot the 40 in the 10mm and remember to back the die out so you don't crush your ten brass and your good to go!
Post by: NW-GSP on January 15, 2014, 11:18:56 PM
.40 works for reloading 10mm
That's dangerous and I wouldn't do it. I have plenty of 40 cal ammo.
I should have said it different, .40 cal reloading dies work for 10mm.
Shooting .40 out of a 10mm would be dangerous.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 16, 2014, 12:35:56 AM
Why?.40 works for reloading 10mm
That's dangerous and I wouldn't do it. I have plenty of 40 cal ammo.
I should have said it different, .40 cal reloading dies work for 10mm.
Shooting .40 out of a 10mm would be dangerous.
Post by: NW-GSP on January 16, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
Post by: high country on January 16, 2014, 10:00:49 AM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 16, 2014, 01:04:51 PM
Most were fired in 2 factory Glock 20's with the factory 10mm barrel and several hundred fired in my several S&W 610's. (10mm revolvers).
It would be akin to saying you shouldn't fire 38sepcial in a 357Mag.
Post by: KFhunter on January 16, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Personally I just use a .40 S&W barrel in my G20 and don't rely on the extractor holding the primer tight against the breach face for the firing pin to hit it, the round jumps forward a tad then as the round fires slams back against the breach face, since the head space is so far off you're flaming the chamber pretty good.
.38 vs .357 works because it indexes off the rim of the cartridge, but the .40 is rimless - the only thing holding is the extractor.
I'd do it if I needed too, but I wouldn't do it just because. Accuracy is going to suffer too. I just don't see the point in wasting ammo and stressing a good extractor and needless wear and tear on the weapon.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 16, 2014, 03:07:36 PM
Post by: high country on January 16, 2014, 03:25:55 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 16, 2014, 05:51:22 PM
So if a 40 fires in a 10mm chamber (say a S&W610) and flame cuts the chamber why won't a 38 special flame cut a S&W model 19?
I shot a lot of 40s&w in my 610 revolver and there's no problem as long as you clean the chambers afterwards. I don't think flame cutting is the issue as much as carbon fouling build up in the chamber. I do the same with 38/357, 44 spcl/mag, and. 45 colt/454/460 revolvers.
If you have tight, well tuned extractors I don't see too much of an issue with 49s in a 10 mm pistol. I just think reliability could suffer since your head spacing wth the extractor instead of the case mouth like normal.
Andrew
Post by: Jim the Plumber on January 16, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
Because rubber moon clips are tougher than steel extractors.I must be truly screwed when I use 1/2 and 1/3 moon clips...
Post by: high country on January 16, 2014, 07:44:34 PM
Because rubber moon clips are tougher than steel extractors.I must be truly screwed when I use 1/2 and 1/3 moon clips...
Living on the edge for sure.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 16, 2014, 09:42:21 PM