Post by: RavensdaleYoungBuck on January 13, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
Post by: Hotolds442 on January 14, 2014, 12:06:55 AM
Post by: BiggLuke on January 14, 2014, 12:34:30 AM
I only use my 20 gauge coach gun.
So basically what I'm saying is.... small game that you can take with a .22lr, you can take more reliably with a shotgun. You know the saying "A bird in the hand, is worth 2 in the bush."
And don't be affraid of blowing them in half with it.
I've taught lot's of new guys how to shoot grouse and rabbits with a 12 gauge, and they literally all took my advice and shot their heads off, and didn't waste an ounce of meat.
Basically... with a shotgun, you have a much wider range of targets. i.e flying, running, standing...
With a .22lr..... you have to get super lucky to find one standing perfectly still.
:tup: :twocents:
Or... best small game gun ever?? Stevens Model 24.
It's an over/under rifle-shotgun. You can still get them today in a .22lr/20 ga.
Check 'em out. http://www.gunblast.com/Savage-42.htm (http://www.gunblast.com/Savage-42.htm)
Post by: pilebuck on January 14, 2014, 01:34:24 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 14, 2014, 01:55:27 AM
Post by: rasbo on January 14, 2014, 03:30:58 AM
Post by: RavensdaleYoungBuck on January 14, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
Post by: WSU on January 14, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
Post by: fastdam on January 14, 2014, 10:20:37 AM
Post by: AWS on January 14, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on January 14, 2014, 02:28:33 PM
I little much on very small game, but rabbits, grouse and yotes are dead meat.
Post by: dmv9 on January 14, 2014, 02:33:24 PM
Post by: buckfvr on January 14, 2014, 02:42:27 PM
Post by: RavensdaleYoungBuck on January 14, 2014, 05:53:35 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 14, 2014, 05:57:01 PM
I've blasted the heck out of small game with it, dang thing shoots like a laser beam :chuckle:
Shoot a coyotes eyeball at 300 yards :tung:
but seriously I can't imagine a better small game rim fire unless the newer .17WSM lives up to the hype.
Post by: scout/sniper on January 14, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
no one said .17HMR?
I've blasted the heck out of small game with it, dang thing shoots like a laser beam :chuckle:
Shoot a coyotes eyeball at 300 yards :tung:
but seriously I can't imagine a better small game rim fire unless the newer .17WSM lives up to the hype.
I didn't even think about that, great gun as well!
Post by: scout/sniper on January 14, 2014, 06:03:05 PM
Alright thanks for everyone's input!!! I think I'll look at a .223.
I also like the .223 because I have thousands of rounds for it that go for my AR.
Post by: Special T on January 14, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
If you can get along without a scope a Savage 24 22mag over 20ga makes a pretty good combo. 22 mag solids for grouse and hollow points for coyotes. 20ga buckshot for coyotes and a variety of birdshot for everything from rabbits and grouse to turkeys.I have and LOVE my 22LR/20g savage. great gun for rabbits and grouse.
Post by: BiggLuke on January 14, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
But seriously?
Come on, if you want to hunt "small game" a shotgun covers everything.
You can't shoot any bird but grouse with a .223.... just saying.
Post by: jrebel on January 14, 2014, 08:14:25 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 14, 2014, 08:15:00 PM
Obviously birds get the shotgun.
Post by: buckfvr on January 14, 2014, 08:15:22 PM
If you can get along without a scope a Savage 24 22mag over 20ga makes a pretty good combo. 22 mag solids for grouse and hollow points for coyotes. 20ga buckshot for coyotes and a variety of birdshot for everything from rabbits and grouse to turkeys.
That right there is the ticket, multi-purpose small game gun for a youngbuck.............
Post by: ghosthunter on January 14, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
Awesome
Post by: KFhunter on January 14, 2014, 08:37:00 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 14, 2014, 08:49:40 PM
Alright thanks for everyone's input!!! I think I'll look at a .223.
223 ammo is still hard to find and it's expensive if you don't reload.
22 mag is what I use mostly. You can buy a scoped 22 mag for around $3-400 ready to go.
17 HMR is pretty light for coyotes
17 WSM will do the trick too
10-22 is ok for close up work, but it's more of a plinker than a work gun.
I have all of the above calibers and the 22 mag would be my choice to start with, then work up to the 223.
Post by: ghosthunter on January 14, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
man I really hate those things :chuckle:
I know, it's ok. :chuckle:
Post by: BiggLuke on January 14, 2014, 08:54:01 PM
Model 24 in .22mag/20ga.....?
Post by: scout/sniper on January 14, 2014, 08:57:39 PM
Alright thanks for everyone's input!!! I think I'll look at a .223.
223 ammo is still hard to find and it's expensive if you don't reload.
22 mag is what I use mostly. You can buy a scoped 22 mag for around $3-400 ready to go.
17 HMR is pretty light for coyotes
17 WSM will do the trick too
10-22 is ok for close up work, but it's more of a plinker than a work gun.
I have all of the above calibers and the 22 mag would be my choice to start with, then work up to the 223.
I don't have a 22 mag but I think I will get one and give it a try.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on January 14, 2014, 10:08:33 PM
Post by: AWS on January 14, 2014, 11:15:59 PM
Savage Model 24 22 Mag over 20ga.
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on January 14, 2014, 11:18:17 PM
Post by: RavensdaleYoungBuck on January 15, 2014, 12:01:05 PM
Post by: VarmintVentilator on January 15, 2014, 12:07:01 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 16, 2014, 02:53:23 AM
Post by: BiggLuke on January 16, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
...and If your aim is mostly smaller small game like racoons, a .223 is overkill, and super loud compared to a .22lr.
I say just start with a 10/22.
It's a great gun, plus super fun and cheap to shoot for plinking.
Post by: ckr on January 16, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
Post by: Ziptie on February 04, 2014, 08:48:18 AM
Post by: Special T on February 04, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Post by: headshot5 on February 04, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
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For a VERY short period of time Savage made a .223 12 ga model 24. They are fairly rare and i have not seen very many of them. I have contacted savage several times about taking thier new modle 42 and adding that combo in some kind of predator setup... could you imagine that for calling in dogs?
I've got one. It is pretty fun and versatile gun, that said I use a .22 mag or a bolt .223 if I'm hunting coyotes just a preference for me.
Post by: Oldguy on February 04, 2014, 09:40:22 AM
The Savage 22LR or 22 mag/ 410 is a very versatile combo for small game/ birds. I think it depends on what you are planning on hunting. Also, a 410 with a full choke and the ability to shoot 3" mags is a great small game getter. I have killed many grouse with a ruger 10/22 (using standard vel round nose) and also with a 410. If you are looking at small game for food with the coyote option I would look at a 22Mag, I think a grouse can only be taken with a rim fire or shotgun in WA. I have also used the FMJ 22 Mag on grouse and other small game with great success. The 22 mag is a small game show stopper. Good luck!
Check page 29 of the Migratory Waterfowl and Upland Game Seasons regulations regarding legal firearms for hunting Forest Grouse. You are a bit off in the rules.
Post by: Ziptie on February 04, 2014, 11:29:42 AM