Post by: seth30 on January 17, 2014, 06:57:36 AM
https://m.facebook.com/theonlygoodwolfisadeadwolf?refid=46
Post by: seth30 on January 17, 2014, 06:59:24 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on January 17, 2014, 07:25:03 AM
"A beautiful photo of 1000 live elk."
Not sure where those were killed, but if it was in elk country that is about the size of it. :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 17, 2014, 07:30:22 AM
Post by: bearpaw on January 17, 2014, 08:00:02 AM
I want a wolf rug really badly.
Me too, I've got two new wolf tags in my pocket, hoping I get a chance to go wolf hunting soon. :tup:
Post by: mulehunter on January 17, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
:yeah: just don't mail thur Fed Ex. :tup:I want a wolf rug really badly.
Me too, I've got two new wolf tags in my pocket, hoping I get a chance to go wolf hunting soon. :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 17, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 17, 2014, 08:47:54 AM
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Post by: seth30 on March 06, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on March 06, 2014, 04:04:04 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on March 06, 2014, 10:31:54 PM
Sharing gory pictures (see the facebook page) and perpetuating the myth that hunters are just blood thirsty killers with no respect for what they hunt :dunno:
It's this kind of stuff that gets around and ultimately bites us in the backside. We will never appease the anti-hunters. But when we (hunters) present ourselves in public (including social media) it is not a bad idea to think about how a non-hunter will perceive it...you know, those 80% or so of folks who vote but are not hunters or anti-hunters. :twocents:
Post by: Broker on March 07, 2014, 08:44:07 AM
Post by: saylean on March 07, 2014, 08:57:06 AM
Post by: NumaJohn on March 07, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
I don't see a lot of respect for the animal on that page. I understand this is a response to the crazy wolf lovers but not just crazy wolf lovers are on facebook.
Well put.
Post by: AspenBud on March 07, 2014, 09:06:26 AM
Sharing tasteful pictures of an animal you harvested :tup:
Sharing gory pictures (see the facebook page) and perpetuating the myth that hunters are just blood thirsty killers with no respect for what they hunt :dunno:
It's this kind of stuff that gets around and ultimately bites us in the backside. We will never appease the anti-hunters. But when we (hunters) present ourselves in public (including social media) it is not a bad idea to think about how a non-hunter will perceive it...you know, those 80% or so of folks who vote but are not hunters or anti-hunters. :twocents:
:yeah:
Ever wonder why the wolf plan has such a high requirement? Probably in large part because the perception is the day a season opens it will be a blood bath that includes people looking to get even with wolves (read animal cruelty). Stuff like this just helps cement that view of wolf hunting and hunters in general.
I'm sure I'll catch flak for that, oh well, it won't be so great and funny when the pro wolf lobby scrapes that page for images to use when initiative time comes.
Post by: finnman on March 07, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
Sharing tasteful pictures of an animal you harvested :tup:
Sharing gory pictures (see the facebook page) and perpetuating the myth that hunters are just blood thirsty killers with no respect for what they hunt :dunno:
It's this kind of stuff that gets around and ultimately bites us in the backside. We will never appease the anti-hunters. But when we (hunters) present ourselves in public (including social media) it is not a bad idea to think about how a non-hunter will perceive it...you know, those 80% or so of folks who vote but are not hunters or anti-hunters. :twocents:
:yeah:
Ever wonder why the wolf plan has such a high requirement? Probably in large part because the perception is the day a season opens it will be a blood bath that includes people looking to get even with wolves (read animal cruelty). Stuff like this just helps cement that view of wolf hunting and hunters in general.
I'm sure I'll catch flak for that, oh well, it won't be so great and funny when the pro wolf lobby scrapes that page for images to use when initiative time comes.
They have all of the ammo they need, they don't need more REAL photos they just make their own. That's the funny thing with these anti type, they have no remorse using lies and deception to further their purpose, unlike many hunters who have a moral compass of right and wrong. Notice I said MANY not ALL.
The coyote with its head blown off...bad judgment, people do not need to see that on social media, now wolf kills, that's a whole different story.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
Post by: AspenBud on March 07, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/nov/13/passage-of-initiative-655-leaves-hunters-up-a-tree/ (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/nov/13/passage-of-initiative-655-leaves-hunters-up-a-tree/)
Post by: wence5 on March 07, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
Do what you want, just don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you. History will repeat itself if you're not careful and keep feeding them easy propaganda. But what do I know? Stuff like this never happens in Washington...
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/nov/13/passage-of-initiative-655-leaves-hunters-up-a-tree/ (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/nov/13/passage-of-initiative-655-leaves-hunters-up-a-tree/)
Good read Aspen. Since this article was written in 1996 most everything they said would happen did happen or is on the way to happening. The only reason Idaho voters haven't adopted the same foolishness is because they don't have a stacked deck with a super large liberal urban voting block. Sportsman in WA don't have this luxury and I doubt ever will. We are in a position to fight an uphill battle with these groups in WA. With what they have achieved with baiting and hounding and now the infestation of wolves the sportsman of WA need to figure out how to battle and beat this foe. These groups are well funded, skillful liars, and zealots.
Post by: jackmaster on March 07, 2014, 12:31:52 PM
Post by: Broker on March 07, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
I could care less what the anti wolf people see or hear, keep posting pics boys!! You really think being polite hunters will get them to agree or like us!? Get real, they don't like us and we don't care for them. Just the way it is, and I'm not going to change my way of doing things to have a false feeling that it will make them happy! Kill all the wolves in the Lower 48!You are completely missing the point. The extremist are just that "extreme", they are outside the norm and are not in sufficient numbers to enact any change. They can believe wolves howl on lonely mountain tops while shooting a rainbow of skittles out their behinds for all I care.
The people who matter are the city living, non hunting voters. They don't know anything about hunting and very few of them actually know a hunter personally. Eventually, they may seek some education on the matter. Since most don't even know a hunter to ask for information, they will turn to the Internet. Do you want them to think that all hunters are like the few hunters on that page showing such disrespect for their game?
Someone astutely brought up I-655. In that case the city living, non hunting voters were educated about the evils of hound hunting, bear baiting and trapping by an extreme group via tv commercials. In those commercials were a lot of similar images to what I'm seeing on the facebook site. Very little of what was sold to the public was even remotely true, but they had pics and video to weave into their lies and it worked very well.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2014, 03:29:05 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on March 07, 2014, 03:55:51 PM
Post by: wence5 on March 07, 2014, 04:12:45 PM
I could care less what the anti wolf people see or hear, keep posting pics boys!! You really think being polite hunters will get them to agree or like us!? Get real, they don't like us and we don't care for them. Just the way it is, and I'm not going to change my way of doing things to have a false feeling that it will make them happy! Kill all the wolves in the Lower 48!You are completely missing the point. The extremist are just that "extreme", they are outside the norm and are not in sufficient numbers to enact any change. They can believe wolves howl on lonely mountain tops while shooting a rainbow of skittles out their behinds for all I care.
The people who matter are the city living, non hunting voters. They don't know anything about hunting and very few of them actually know a hunter personally. Eventually, they may seek some education on the matter. Since most don't even know a hunter to ask for information, they will turn to the Internet. Do you want them to think that all hunters are like the few hunters on that page showing such disrespect for their game?
Someone astutely brought up I-655. In that case the city living, non hunting voters were educated about the evils of hound hunting, bear baiting and trapping by an extreme group via tv commercials. In those commercials were a lot of similar images to what I'm seeing on the facebook site. Very little of what was sold to the public was even remotely true, but they had pics and video to weave into their lies and it worked very well.
Very well put. I agree with you 100%. Like I said they are well funded, they lie and they are zealots. They have fertile ground to till in the large cities to force bad legislation through that the rest of us have to follow. We need to somehow educate to city duelers to the truth, and I'm not sure this FB page is the right way. That doesn't alter my hatred for this pest.
Post by: AspenBud on March 07, 2014, 04:38:19 PM
It's one thing to want to control predator numbers, it's entirely another to such have total disrespect for the animal you're trapping and hunting.
Just how I see things.
Post by: wolfbait on March 08, 2014, 10:17:09 AM
Look at all the information on the net. in ID, MT, Wyoming, Arizona etc. of wolves killing just to kill, the impacts on wildlife, livestock and wolves coming right in on people homes and killing their pets, do you think the people who love wolves care enough to look for the truth? We have seen people right here on W-H look the other way and argue the wolves are needed, or they don't impact the game herds. Pictures of a few dead wolves are not going to change the outcome.
It's too bad the sportsmen and women can't come together and fight this as one, everyone who enjoys the great outdoors. But that will never happen until the wolves are affecting them in some way.
Divide and conquer, I think thats where we are today, with some people looking through a screen and others seeing the full clear picture. :twocents:
Trying to be politically correct hasn't really worked that well so far has it?
Post by: AspenBud on March 09, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
While everyone worries about what the other side might think, or how they might use a picture, pictures, the pro-wolfers are eating your lunch. Does anyone actually think these pictures at this point would alter an already brain-washed public. Have you ever spent hours trying to convince a pro-wolfer of what wolves really do? Or the end results and they still revert back to wolves balance the ecosystem or wolves and game herds just need more habitat.
Look at all the information on the net. in ID, MT, Wyoming, Arizona etc. of wolves killing just to kill, the impacts on wildlife, livestock and wolves coming right in on people homes and killing their pets, do you think the people who love wolves care enough to look for the truth? We have seen people right here on W-H look the other way and argue the wolves are needed, or they don't impact the game herds. Pictures of a few dead wolves are not going to change the outcome.
It's too bad the sportsmen and women can't come together and fight this as one, everyone who enjoys the great outdoors. But that will never happen until the wolves are affecting them in some way.
Divide and conquer, I think thats where we are today, with some people looking through a screen and others seeing the full clear picture. :twocents:
Trying to be politically correct hasn't really worked that well so far has it?
How's your conspiracy theory peddling on Hunt WA going? Getting much traction with the people in the middle who would vote on an anti wolf hunting initiative?
Even if you reach every single one of the less than 200,000 registered hunters in this state, including me, you still have literally millions of others to worry about, and you have a lot more to lose with them by not being politically correct.
Post by: idahohuntr on March 09, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
Those undecided voters really turn against you when they see that tinfoil hat :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: splitshot on March 09, 2014, 11:35:08 AM
Post by: Broker on March 09, 2014, 03:45:42 PM
I will take a shot of fireball for my punishment.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 09, 2014, 03:51:20 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on March 09, 2014, 04:26:08 PM
"A beautiful photo of 1000 live elk."
I think we need to find this guy and have him give a few lessons.
Post by: villageidiot on March 09, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
I am sorry for ruining everybodys day. :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 09, 2014, 07:49:33 PM
Post by: mulehunter on March 09, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
Talked to a gamie today and he said there were 2 wolves killed by cougars recently. One was in the Teannaway and he didnt remember where the other was. Both were confirmed cougar kills and both had collars is how they found them.
I am sorry for ruining everybodys day. :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew: :brew:
:brew: :brew: :brew:
Post by: splitshot on March 09, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Post by: Special T on March 10, 2014, 07:45:21 AM
Flipping through some of those photos...that site is a hunting and trapping PR nightmare.
It's one thing to want to control predator numbers, it's entirely another to such have total disrespect for the animal you're trapping and hunting.
Just how I see things.
One of the things that bothers me with this statement is the fact that not all animals are equal. The lions share of money raised by the state in Lic are for deer and elk. THAT is what people want to hunt. Shooting wolves should be just like shooting coyotes. Why Because one in an area they are nearly impossible to eradicate with conventional methods. Neither one of them bring in the kind of Rev or hunter numbers as deer and elk. Coyotes are nothing but chicken thieves, and wolves are nothing more than sheep killers.
Post by: timberfaller on March 12, 2014, 10:14:29 AM
Some where in Walt Disney's "nature" films is a Cougar killing and eating a Golden Eagle. Seen it not to long ago on some internet site. Had seen it as a kid back in the 60's.
Hunger pains make anything do strange things :EAT: