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Title: Japan Band?
Post by: MC37493 on January 27, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
Shot this off of a drake pinny last day of the season i tried reporting it and they said it is not there format and they gave me a number where i left a voicemail at. The band says KANKYOSHO TOKYO JAPAN, Could this pinny be from japan?
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 27, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
Was it quaking in Japanese?  :chuckle:
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Post by: whacker1 on January 27, 2014, 02:13:29 PM
If it is from Japan, that would be the band of a lifetime.   :tup:
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Post by: boneaddict on January 27, 2014, 02:22:55 PM
 :yeah:
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Post by: LndShrk on January 27, 2014, 02:27:53 PM
Could have been someones pet. :)  :tup:
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Post by: boneaddict on January 27, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
http://parislanding.com/japan_duck_12608.htm (http://parislanding.com/japan_duck_12608.htm)
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Post by: singleshot12 on January 27, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Atleast it wasn't made in China! It's a keeper! String it on your landyard :tup:
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Post by: hdshot on January 27, 2014, 02:44:47 PM
Could be because migratory birds from Asia end up in Alaska.  That's why there is concern a bird from Asia will carry the bird flu up into Alaska and spread it to the birds that migrate south into North America.  The biggest surprise would be why doesn't the US Fish and Wildlife have Japan bird banding info since we have a treaty with them and other countries?
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Post by: full choke on January 27, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
Very cool! :tup:
I have heard of Pintails with Japanese bands before- must have been your lucky day!
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Post by: johnnyaustin44 on January 27, 2014, 02:53:50 PM
I've heard of a few pintails with bands from japan as well. Definitely a rare kill congrats!!! :tup:
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Post by: denali on January 27, 2014, 02:58:36 PM
Very cool !

hope it did not spend much time near Fukushima  :o
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Post by: h2ofowlr on January 27, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
Does the band glow when the lights are off.  I wonder how radio active it might be?   :yike:
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Post by: REHJWA on January 27, 2014, 03:29:57 PM
Migratory indeed....
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Post by: huntingfool7 on January 27, 2014, 03:40:28 PM
Bet there was a wrestling match in that blind!
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Post by: pd on January 27, 2014, 03:44:58 PM
Shot this off of a drake pinny last day of the season i tried reporting it and they said it is not there format and they gave me a number where i left a voicemail at. The band says KANKYOSHO TOKYO JAPAN, Could this pinny be from japan?

PM sent to you.  This bird is part of a research project, and the Japanese government (environmental agency) would like to record the data.  I can help you.
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Post by: gaddy on January 27, 2014, 03:54:50 PM
keep us posted. very interesting.
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 27, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Very cool :tup:
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Post by: LndShrk on January 27, 2014, 06:31:52 PM
Here is a link for you..

http://www.yamashina.or.jp/hp/english/banding/birds_rings.html#br07 (http://www.yamashina.or.jp/hp/english/banding/birds_rings.html#br07)

I know someone that can help with getting you the information off of it.

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Post by: Wea300mag on January 27, 2014, 06:58:03 PM
That's awesome, now go buy a lotto ticket.
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Post by: MC37493 on January 28, 2014, 08:58:41 AM
Thanks Pd and Lndshark for the link to send them the info that is what i was hoping someone could help me out with clicked on the page originally and didnt see the english button lol.
Here is the reply from the email they sent me
BANDED DATE   21 Dec. 2011
 BANDED PLACE     Saitama Duck Refuge, Obayashi, Koshigaya, Saitama pref., JAPAN
 BANDED COORD.    35.54 N   139.47 E
 BANDED DETAILS   Anas acuta, Male, Age was unknown.
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Post by: whacker1 on January 28, 2014, 09:00:46 AM
very cool information
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Post by: LndShrk on January 28, 2014, 09:04:26 AM
Thanks Pd and Lndshark for the link to send them the info that is what i was hoping someone could help me out with clicked on the page originally and didnt see the english button lol.
Here is the reply from the email they sent me
BANDED DATE   21 Dec. 2011
 BANDED PLACE     Saitama Duck Refuge, Obayashi, Koshigaya, Saitama pref., JAPAN
 BANDED COORD.    35.54 N   139.47 E
 BANDED DETAILS   Anas acuta, Male, Age was unknown.

Mind sharing whereabouts in the state did you take it? East vs West.. Don't need specifics. Just curious
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Post by: boneaddict on January 28, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
 :tup:  Thats beyond neat!
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Post by: ducksdogsdownriggers on January 28, 2014, 10:26:20 AM
Thanks Pd and Lndshark for the link to send them the info that is what i was hoping someone could help me out with clicked on the page originally and didnt see the english button lol.
Here is the reply from the email they sent me
BANDED DATE   21 Dec. 2011
 BANDED PLACE     Saitama Duck Refuge, Obayashi, Koshigaya, Saitama pref., JAPAN
 BANDED COORD.    35.54 N   139.47 E
 BANDED DETAILS   Anas acuta, Male, Age was unknown.

Very, very cool!  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: hntrspud on January 28, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
Thanks for sharing such a once in a lifetime band, and congrats Matt!! I have yet to get a band, let alone one from Japan. Truly incredible.  :tup:
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Post by: TheHunt on January 28, 2014, 11:12:54 AM
WOW, that is really impressive... What a find.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 28, 2014, 11:40:58 AM
Shot this off of a drake pinny last day of the season i tried reporting it and they said it is not there format and they gave me a number where i left a voicemail at. The band says KANKYOSHO TOKYO JAPAN, Could this pinny be from japan?

PM sent to you.  This bird is part of a research project, and the Japanese government (environmental agency) would like to record the data.  I can help you.

Please tell us more PD.
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Post by: pd on January 28, 2014, 12:13:59 PM
Shot this off of a drake pinny last day of the season i tried reporting it and they said it is not there format and they gave me a number where i left a voicemail at. The band says KANKYOSHO TOKYO JAPAN, Could this pinny be from japan?

PM sent to you.  This bird is part of a research project, and the Japanese government (environmental agency) would like to record the data.  I can help you.

Please tell us more PD.

Pianoman,

The Japanese government has been banding birds since 1924, and the environmental agency (equivalent to our EPA, but toothless) is currently in charge.  They publish an annual report on banding, which can be found here (much of it in English):
http://www.biodic.go.jp/banding/pdf/banding_h24.pdf (http://www.biodic.go.jp/banding/pdf/banding_h24.pdf)
There is an interesting chart (V-3-1), which shows the longevity records for banded/captured birds--the record is for a Storm Petrel, which was captured 30 years after banding.

The agency's website has an interesting page devoted to tracking Pintails:
http://www.env.go.jp/nature/dobutsu/bird_flu/migratory/dabbler.html (http://www.env.go.jp/nature/dobutsu/bird_flu/migratory/dabbler.html)
Look at the Google map results for migrating Pintails from the Saitama release site, the blue map, Slide 2.

You can see the majority of Pintails migrate to the summertime breeding grounds in far eastern Siberia (Russia), including Kamchatka.  The tracking records do not show Pintails moving to the Alaskan mainland.  Yet the bird in question here clearly made its way clockwise up to Alaska, spent the summer there, and upon returning to the warmer wintering grounds made a left turn when he should have turned right, and came down the eastern Pacific coastline to Washington.  Talk about making a wrong turn!

Good on you MC37493  for sharing this data with the agency! 

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Post by: pianoman9701 on January 28, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
Thanks pd. That's certainly a once-in-a-lifetime band. Awesome.
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Post by: bobcat on January 28, 2014, 12:20:19 PM
Does anyone know if they hunt ducks in Japan?
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Post by: The scout on January 28, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
that is a awesome trophy :tup: wonder if the duck taste's like kung pao or teriyaki?
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Post by: pd on January 28, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
Does anyone know if they hunt ducks in Japan?

Absolutely yes.  Here is an example: http://hunting.seesaa.net/article/114509522.html (http://hunting.seesaa.net/article/114509522.html)

Japan has a real problem with hunting right now.  The (national) government has spent the entire post-war period restricting the ownership of firearms (handguns are absolutely prohibited, and rifles are very difficult to possess), the result of which the average age of licensed hunters in now above 70!  If I remember correctly, to even apply for a permit to own a rifle one must have hunted safely with a shotgun for at least 10 years--this is really a high hurdle, and most hunters don't even try to apply for the permit (I don't know a single person who owns a rifle there).

The country is literally overrun with deer, and there are very few hunters who have the means (guns) and knowledge to take them. 

As a rule, hunting in Japan is limited to shotguns (buckshot for deer or bear).  Small game (including pheasants, ducks) is possible, but not nearly as common as it was a few generations ago.  I know this from personal experience.

But the good news is hunting is making a comeback in Japan. 
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Post by: TheSkyBuster on January 28, 2014, 12:35:25 PM
This is Way Cool, Thanks For sharing.   :tup:   I remember reading an article in DU magazine about the same thing many years ago.
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Post by: goody31 on January 28, 2014, 03:25:06 PM
That's one great trophy!  Nice job!
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Post by: REHJWA on January 28, 2014, 04:11:57 PM
I was just in Japan this December and was informed bows were illegal also.... :archer:
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Post by: Skyhigh on January 29, 2014, 07:21:24 AM
here is a bird from about 5 years ago shot in Washington and banded 10 years prior in Japan

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.imageevent.com%2Fottoloader%2Fhuntingstuff%2Fwebsize%2FJapan-Pintail%2520005%2520-%2520Copy_1.JPG&hash=9ddb4601b1f70c24de725dabffd89c6dd6a764e3)
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Post by: Colin on January 29, 2014, 11:15:27 AM
Matt you should change your handle to BrdFluHntr...  :IBCOOL:
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Post by: kodiak 907 on January 29, 2014, 03:15:38 PM
We had guys from my uncles lodge on kodiak shoot a couple teal and pintails each year with bands from Japan.   :tup: Peking Duck
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Post by: RB on January 29, 2014, 03:35:09 PM
Wow that is really cool it is truly amazing how far some animals travel  :tup:
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Post by: WCTaxidermy on January 30, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Now that is very interesting!  Thanks for sharing your story.  I'd frame that band with a picture of your duck and the story of the hunt if it were me. 
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Post by: Watimberghost on April 23, 2014, 08:56:19 PM
That is outta this world... I mean continent. What a great trophy!
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Post by: MC37493 on April 25, 2014, 07:57:11 PM
thanks for the nice comments everyone i was definitly in the right place at the right time!
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Post by: hirshey on April 27, 2014, 07:56:52 PM
VERY cool! Thanks for sharing! :)
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Post by: h2ofowlr on April 29, 2014, 07:25:42 AM
Are the Japanese bands aluminum or stainless steel ones?  They seem to remain very bright.
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Post by: MC37493 on April 30, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
seems to be stainless
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