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Title: Wolf or not?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2014, 08:24:05 PM
I have heard they are in the area.  This is in 328, near Wilson Creek/Reecer Creek.

Zoomed in to see the feet better.  I think the ears, blocky face and the feet close the deal.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: KFhunter on January 27, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
without a doubt - wolf

(or 98% hybrid)   :chuckle:

crap is that like right in town?
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: BenC567 on January 27, 2014, 08:26:17 PM
wolf
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 27, 2014, 08:29:58 PM
Well it ain't Little Red Ridding Hood!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: boneaddict on January 27, 2014, 08:31:47 PM
Wolf.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: deaner on January 27, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
only way to be certain would be to set up a few landmines there and then do dna tests of the scraps afterward.  if the dna tests come back positive for wolf, youll have to remove the remaining landmines right away so as to protect these noble creatures that are such valuable assets to our ecosystem
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: KFhunter on January 27, 2014, 08:32:45 PM
Wilson/Reecer creek is like right under I-90 just outside of E-burg

was it really that close in?

Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: boneaddict on January 27, 2014, 08:36:25 PM
They've been in that area for about 5 years (OR LONGER) prior to them discovering them there.   
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
Here is a shot from a different camera.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2014, 08:42:29 PM
Wow that turned out grainy sizing it to fit.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2014, 08:46:04 PM
Here is a photo of a coyote from that same camera for size comparison.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: boneaddict on January 27, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
Love the snowpack  :yike:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Love the snowpack  :yike:
It is killing me, no snow to speak of this year.  Normally I have to snowmobile in this time of year.  I don't know if the lack of snow has the animals on a different pattern, the Taylor bridge fire below us and the Table Mountain fire above us or what?  We just seem to have a ton of predators this year.

Here a photo of a cat that I got from this same two week period.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2014, 09:01:35 PM
Wilson/Reecer creek is like right under I-90 just outside of E-burg

was it really that close in?
This is up near the National Forest, at about 4000 feet.  My stepdad saw one close to the intersection of Reecer Creek Road and Wilson Creek road a couple of years ago.  Said it was the biggest dog or coyote he had ever seen.  When I mentioned wolf he said it was possible.  Now I would say it was definately a wolf back then and now they have moved even closer to town.  Not far from my location is tons of livestock.  Should be easier picking than deer and elk hopefully.  But I am sure this will not help the calf and fawn recruitment this year.  Not that the coyote cougar and bear that I have pics of won't be doing their share of damage.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Skillet on January 27, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
Wolf.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Pinetar on January 27, 2014, 09:34:45 PM
Without doubt a wolf.  :bash: Congrats on getting a trail cam pic.

I was up there 10 days calling Coyotes and called in my first Wolf (by himself) that looks very similar, hard to tell from that pic but the one I saw might of had a whiter face. He came running in fast and slowed down about 120 yards out, came in slow the last 40 yards and held up in some brush. I watched him for about 5 minutes, then stood up and he didn't care one bit. Eventually he wandered off into some brush and disappeared. Also heard them howling about an hour before daylight.

There has been several photos of wolves in the valley floor on that side of the valley floating around on emails for a month. We have also found more cougar kills than ever before, so we definitely have a cougar problem, now we have wolves :bash:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: bearkautz on January 27, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
 yup.wolf. I saw one alone last year Jan 5 by it self .while I snowmobiling just 5 miles east of there. don't need them. >:(
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: mossback91 on January 27, 2014, 10:07:55 PM
Swear I saw some up in the 328 about 9 years ago. :bash:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: flinger on January 27, 2014, 10:18:20 PM
Without doubt a wolf.  :bash: Congrats on getting a trail cam pic.

I was up there 10 days calling Coyotes and called in my first Wolf (by himself) that looks very similar, hard to tell from that pic but the one I saw might of had a whiter face. He came running in fast and slowed down about 120 yards out, came in slow the last 40 yards and held up in some brush. I watched him for about 5 minutes, then stood up and he didn't care one bit. Eventually he wandered off into some brush and disappeared. Also heard them howling about an hour before daylight.

There has been several photos of wolves in the valley floor on that side of the valley floating around on emails for a month. We have also found more cougar kills than ever before, so we definitely have a cougar problem, now we have wolves :bash:


Sounds like an aggressive charge to me :mgun2:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 27, 2014, 10:25:10 PM
Indeed 100% wolf on that one.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: boneaddict on January 28, 2014, 07:14:14 AM
It makes for tracking them a pain.  I went into first last week looking for the pack, and found a track frozen in the mud, but no idea when it was made.   I'm curious to how many animals are in "this pack"  This could be the Wenatchee ones, or the Teanaway ones or  :dunno: 
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: KenPCPilot on January 28, 2014, 07:24:28 AM
I attended a presentation by one the WDFW predator biologists.  He showed maps made of animals with tracking collars.  They travel hundreds of miles.  Could be a loner out to set up his own pack.  He predicted it won't take long to establish packs on this side of the mountains given the pattern they have already established of populating new areas outside Yellowstone.  so plan to see more wolves less elk and deer on a game camera near you.  the one good thing he said once they are established on the west side they whole state can be delisted. still up to the political hacks at WDFW to create a season for them.  The biologist was pretty clear that hunting alone is never going to control the explosive growth of our wolf population.  Cool pic thanks for sharing. 
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: jackmaster on January 28, 2014, 07:26:02 AM
only way to be certain would be to set up a few landmines there and then do dna tests of the scraps afterward.  if the dna tests come back positive for wolf, youll have to remove the remaining landmines right away so as to protect these noble creatures that are such valuable assets to our ecosystem
:yeah: :yeah: :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 28, 2014, 08:03:37 AM
Holy crap! Someone must not have a deer within 10 miles with all those predators in the neighborhood.  :yike: :yike:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: boneaddict on January 28, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
Its a weird year PM with the lack of snow.   The animals are definatley having a different sort of winter. 
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: big wood on January 28, 2014, 09:01:58 PM
I cant say. I was surrounded by a pack of 14 wolves in Montana packed in 28 miles in the bob and all those wolves looked a lot slimmer or pointed in the snout, with real beauty eyes I was 20 feet from them so I got a good look. Almost looks like a hybrid. but could be one. Hope not
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: sagewalker on February 04, 2014, 05:16:32 PM
wolf
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: Duckhunter14 on February 07, 2014, 03:01:04 PM
I saw a wolf in 328 the last weekend of the late Archery elk hunt. Right up near Wilson/Reecer also. I couldn't believe what I had seen so I walked over to where the wolf ran over the hill and sure enough it was a wolf track. People have been saying they've seen them in the area for years but I didn't believe it until I saw it for myself. You guys sure are right about too many predators in this area. I've got black bear and cougar on my trail cam and saw a huge Tom the same weekend I saw the wolf. Missed it with my bow at 62 yards. I was and still am sick about it. Would have saved a lot of deer and elk. We need to do something to control these predators. They're getting out of hand. We heard of more cougars being seen and killed this year than any of the past 10 years we've hunted this area.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: TriggerMike on February 07, 2014, 11:49:45 PM
Wilson/Reecer creek is like right under I-90 just outside of E-burg

was it really that close in?
This is up near the National Forest, at about 4000 feet.  My stepdad saw one close to the intersection of Reecer Creek Road and Wilson Creek road a couple of years ago.  Said it was the biggest dog or coyote he had ever seen.  When I mentioned wolf he said it was possible.  Now I would say it was definately a wolf back then and now they have moved even closer to town.  Not far from my location is tons of livestock.  Should be easier picking than deer and elk hopefully.  But I am sure this will not help the calf and fawn recruitment this year.  Not that the coyote cougar and bear that I have pics of won't be doing their share of damage.

4000 feet in that area is basically the timber line. The intersection of Reecer and Wilson Cr (Table Mtn) Roads is about 5500'. The wolves are getting mighty close to the ranchers fields and other homes if they're at 4000'. It's been very, very cold in E Burg this last week and we finally have snow on the ground in town as of last night and there's been snow in the 328 for a few weeks now so judging by the date of your photos I'd say it snowed just after your camera got those pics. I wonder if the snow has driven the wolves even further down now. That would be a scary thought considering how low they already were before the snow but it's not that deep so I cant imagine it being to bad for the deer and elk. Also, all the cattle that range over in Coleman and Cooke canyons during the Summer has to attract hungry wolves, which is another dagger to the heart for us.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: kodiak 907 on February 21, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
hybrid :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: wence5 on February 25, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
  the one good thing he said once they are established on the west side the whole state can be delisted. still up to the political hacks at WDFW to create a season for them. 
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Never see a hunting season in this liberal arm pit. Even if they do delist this vermin and let out a very limited number of tags the elk and deer herds will have been wiped out way before that happens.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: time2hunt on February 26, 2014, 07:48:55 PM
There's been a young male running from the bottom of reecer over to Coleman across the power line for the last year. Heard last weekend from local cattle rancher that the teanaway pack has been below the Wilson creek substation for the last week or so.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: klickman on February 26, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
I saw wolf tracks above Suneast last spring. I thought maybe someone had a dog loose but there were no people tracks in the snow to be found.  Now I am sure it was a wolf.  Even found some gray hair in the snow where it rolled around.  I wish they'd head about 75 miles west then changes would happen.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: singleshot12 on February 27, 2014, 01:48:21 PM
There has always been a pack up Reecer for about the last 20 years or more that I know of. Just figured they were coyote dog crosses that went wild and fed off of the elk and hunters gut piles. They looked like wolves in all shades of brown,gray and black. vicious looking k-9's that needed to be shot.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 27, 2014, 01:52:15 PM
 :mgun: :mgun:
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: hardrichard on March 04, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Wolf. I think were all going to be seeing more of them if your out in the bush at  all.
Title: Re: Wolf or not?
Post by: jasnt on March 09, 2014, 06:00:22 PM
Definitely wolf
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