Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 02:17:24 PM
18'6" war eagle boat, Columbia river all year long, slow & fast flows, deep and shallow.
Post by: kenzmad on January 30, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 30, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 02:40:45 PM
I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.
This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there. EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that. The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why. Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 02:46:29 PM
The Orval is around the 55 dollar mark. Worth it for the extra 15 bucks?
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 30, 2014, 02:50:30 PM
The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.
This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there. EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that. The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why. Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 02:53:51 PM
http://ezmarine.com/ez_6_price_list_.htm (http://ezmarine.com/ez_6_price_list_.htm)
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 02:54:38 PM
The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.
This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there. EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that. The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why. Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.
What is the Leelock puller? The only thing I can find on their website is the bracket that mounts to the front of the boat and the block that locks the line. I dont see anything that hangs under a bouy for leelock.
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
EZ marine pricing...
http://ezmarine.com/ez_6_price_list_.htm (http://ezmarine.com/ez_6_price_list_.htm)
Thanks for that!
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 02:56:34 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 30, 2014, 02:57:43 PM
http://leelockas.com/orval.html (http://leelockas.com/orval.html)The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.
This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there. EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that. The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why. Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.
What is the Leelock puller? The only thing I can find on their website is the bracket that mounts to the front of the boat and the block that locks the line. I dont see anything that hangs under a bouy for leelock.
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 02:58:31 PM
Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.
Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.
Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has? Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 03:00:26 PM
http://leelockas.com/orval.html (http://leelockas.com/orval.html)The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.
This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there. EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that. The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why. Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.
What is the Leelock puller? The only thing I can find on their website is the bracket that mounts to the front of the boat and the block that locks the line. I dont see anything that hangs under a bouy for leelock.
gotcha, thats the one I was looking at as well.
Post by: huntnphool on January 30, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
You can likely pick up all the pieces separately cheaper than buying it all together. :twocents:Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.
Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.
Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has? Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 03:05:41 PM
You can likely pick up all the pieces separately cheaper than buying it all together. :twocents:Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.
Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.
Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has? Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.
For sure! We got our big bouys from Ballard and shipyards and the like. Most have a slow leak and are easily patched. A quality big bouy can set ya back 100 bucks.
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 03:06:43 PM
You can likely pick up all the pieces separately cheaper than buying it all together. :twocents:Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.
Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.
Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has? Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.
thats kind of what I am thinking while doing this research.
I am thinking I am going to need 3/8 x 300 nylon line. Seems like most places are only offering 3/8 in 150, 200, and one place I saw had 250.
You guys have a online dealer you would recommend for line?
I will be hitting the local store this weekend to see what they have, but for now, all I have is google.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 03:09:05 PM
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
Time to start pricing. So far the ezmarine kit is the cheapest. Since I will have to purchase a bouy and anchor to go along with the line and clasp deal.
Ezmarine med acnhoring set 16-19' boats - 280
3/8 x 300 line - 71
Orvals clasp - 55
bouy - 100
anchor - 90
for a total of - 316
but I get the Orval deal over the ezmarine one. 40 bucks difference isnt that bad I guess.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 03:17:47 PM
Post by: 92xj on January 30, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 30, 2014, 03:22:43 PM
Dont skimp on the anchor. Get the 32 pound.Mine is a little more than 40# and the buoy holds it up fine too. Better to have a little bit too heavy than not heavy enough. :twocents:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on January 30, 2014, 03:37:38 PM
Dont skimp on the anchor. Get the 32 pound.Mine is a little more than 40# and the buoy holds it up fine too. Better to have a little bit too heavy than not heavy enough. :twocents:
Exactly. The one he refered to had the 26 pound anchor. Thats why I told him to get the bigger 32 if he buys the EZ anchor. Big inboard jets are way heavier and could use even more like yours. :tup:
I run 20 feet of chain off my 32 cause I like to work out lifting that last 20 feet. Lol Actually I do it so I dont need as much rode when Im in those too close together hoglines.
Post by: fishcrazy on January 30, 2014, 05:29:37 PM
And I agree go up 1 size on the anchor from what their chart shows. I run a 32# ezmarine anchor and have never need chain. The last thing I want to drag over the side of my boat is chain.
I also have a long rope that is probably 350' and a shorter 150' rope. Depending on how deep I'm fishing.
you might also look into getting an anchor rope bag. I love mine. No more rope mess or tangles.
Kris
Post by: hollymaster on January 30, 2014, 06:06:18 PM
Post by: Mfowl on January 30, 2014, 07:12:34 PM
Post by: cohoho on January 30, 2014, 07:13:18 PM
I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain. :twocents:
Leelock stinks in my opinion also for their anchor locker system. I would 100% go with Miller Marine system, easy to pull 40lb anchors with breaking the zip ties or having to reach to the front of the boat on choppy water. Leelock system the roller is way too small catches the top ring of the anchor the wrong way almost every time.... When pulling the buoy, it will slip off and grab the anchor holder slot. Still pulls but damage has occurred to the anchor line, so I smoothed out the edges. I do like the quick release system for the Leelocker for OS fishing, makes it a snap to drop anchor over board... I will sell you my Leelock system today for $100, they were like $240 new. I use and like the EZ marine anchor, I have both the 28lb and 40lb. Just do not tell Robodad I have a lighter anchor, it is fun watching him pull the heavier one.... :chuckle: I use a mesh laundry bag inside of a 5 gallon bucket to easy store and wrap, then pull bag out to dry...
Post by: cohoho on January 30, 2014, 07:20:16 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on January 30, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain. :twocents:
..... Just do not tell Robodad I have a lighter anchor, it is fun watching him pull the heavier one.... :chuckle:
I was wondering why you were laughing so much each time we moved your boat last time out... :chuckle:
Post by: woodywsu on January 31, 2014, 11:31:14 AM
Post by: fishcrazy on January 31, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
Kris
Post by: magnus100 on February 04, 2014, 08:25:58 PM
Post by: cohoho on February 04, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
Hey Kris if you get a trade deal - tell them I have one that I'd be more than happy to get some sort of exchange on it. Wish they had a can type system for the Columbia river type anchors??? Be sweet and easy to pull once the buoy is up front.
Post by: huntnphool on February 04, 2014, 09:47:30 PM
Recommend also going with a Poly type rope for the first 250ft and then put a floating nylon line on the last 50ft. Also EZ has the new slide on for pulling anchor, got one, just haven't used it yet... Seems like it should work as I got it set up for a back up system in the under storage of the boat.Hey Mike, last time I was at the show they showed me a system that worked with my big Columbia anchor. It wasn't a can but they pulled it up onto the decking platform just fine.
Hey Kris if you get a trade deal - tell them I have one that I'd be more than happy to get some sort of exchange on it. Wish they had a can type system for the Columbia river type anchors??? Be sweet and easy to pull once the buoy is up front.
Post by: cohoho on February 04, 2014, 10:22:52 PM
Post by: 92xj on March 06, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
I was given an anchor and bouy.
Even though I have zero experience in this, for some reason I am thinking my ball is a little small, or my anchor is a little big.
I will be using this on an 18.5' open floor plan aluminum duck boat. Not heave what so ever.
I know the anchor will hold the boat just fine. Weighed it to 40 pounds.
Will the bouy float the anchor? The bouy is 14" diameter width wise. Top to bottom is greater.
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Post by: Mfowl on March 06, 2014, 09:04:22 PM
Post by: Cap.Silver on March 06, 2014, 09:18:39 PM
Post by: cohoho on March 07, 2014, 06:31:55 AM
Post by: 92xj on March 07, 2014, 07:30:28 AM
My buddy had the multi forks type and didn't like it, it didn't stick like a dual fork type. He runs a beautiful Willies 24ft Guide boat, once he went to the dual fork - never comes off anchor at all.... I run a dual fork type on a heavy boat and do not come off anchor with it either..
Do you think the buoy would float that anchor?
I know that anchor would hold the boat just fine. It's a light boat. In desperate times last year I had a 10 foot piece of chair on the end of a rope with no anchor that held me on the big c. I'm thinking I will just go get a 16 pound dual fork anchor at sportsmans tonight to run under the 14 inch buoy. On 300 feet of 3/8 line.
Post by: robodad on March 07, 2014, 07:48:57 AM
I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain. :twocents:
..... Just do not tell Robodad I have a lighter anchor, it is fun watching him pull the heavier one.... :chuckle:
I was wondering why you were laughing so much each time we moved your boat last time out... :chuckle:
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Post by: Antlershed on March 07, 2014, 07:56:47 AM
So....I would be surprised if that buoy could float that anchor. Not to mention, I doubt it would have enough buoyancy to get that anchor off the bottom.
I was given an anchor and bouy.
Even though I have zero experience in this, for some reason I am thinking my ball is a little small, or my anchor is a little big.
I will be using this on an 18.5' open floor plan aluminum duck boat. Not heave what so ever.
I know the anchor will hold the boat just fine. Weighed it to 40 pounds.
Will the bouy float the anchor? The bouy is 14" diameter width wise. Top to bottom is greater.
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I run a 32lb EZ Marine anchor, EZ marine puller, their largest buoy and their 300' rope (250' + 50' floating tag line). I also run about 5' of chain. Haven't had a problem holding my 22.5' Raptor.
Post by: Fish4Fun on March 07, 2014, 02:27:50 PM
Ironwood Pacific Anchor Retrieval System
http://www.lfsmarineoutdoor.com/ironwood-pacific-anchor-retrieval-system.html (http://www.lfsmarineoutdoor.com/ironwood-pacific-anchor-retrieval-system.html)
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on March 08, 2014, 09:35:21 AM